Urban Campers

[August1991]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Obviously that's the case, but that doesn't mean they're not managing their pets. Well I don't prove in general if people who are unhomed owning pets for various reasons I'm not sure you can justify forbidding it by law or taking the pets away unless you can demonstrate that this specific pet is being mistreated.

Disagree.

Anyone homeless, living on the street in Canada has problems, cannot manage their life.

This person should not impose their lifestyle on any child, any animal.

A civilised State should intervene.

[CdnFox]

32 minutes ago, August1991 said:

Disagree.

Anyone homeless, living on the street in Canada has problems, cannot manage their life.

They can to a degree. Or are you suggesting that we should Round them all up and lock them up and treat them like children because they can't care for themselves? The very fact that we let them roam free in the first place is proof that we believe that they are capable of some degree of self-management

And if they can't care for the animal then that will show in the animal itself. If the animal is suffering or is in poor health or malnutrition then deal with it.

But I am aware that there are significant number of studies that show that animals can bring people with mental health challenges or depression a significant amount of stability. Caring for them can lead people to want to care for themselves better. A pet can have a very powerful impact

So I'm reluctant to say they should be removed just because you think these guys should be making better life choices

[August1991]

On 6/10/2025 at 7:26 PM, CdnFox said:

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Or are you suggesting that we should Round them all up and lock them up and treat them like children because they can't care for themselves? The very fact that we let them roam free in the first place is proof that we believe that they are capable of some degree of self-management

.....

While walking a dog, I thought of your point.

-Squirrels. 

-Canada is cold. Let's see what happens in December

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

While walking a dog, I thought of your point.

-Squirrels. 

-Canada is cold. Let's see what happens in December

Well, I would caution you about comparing homeless people to squirrels in the wrong company, people will start to think you're nuts  

But yeah, if it's a cold winter it's going to be tough on people

[August1991]

On 7/12/2025 at 1:36 AM, CdnFox said:

Well, I would caution you about comparing homeless people to squirrels in the wrong company, people will start to think you're nuts  

But yeah, if it's a cold winter it's going to be tough on people

Yet, the comparison is germane.

Some humans feed squirrels the same way they feed fellow humans.

[eyeball]

On 4/27/2025 at 12:02 AM, August1991 said:

I think it is wrong for homeless people to have dogs. If a person is incapable of organising their own life, it is wrong to impose their life-style on a domesticated animal. 

OTOH the need to care for their companion imparts a sense of responsibility.  This leads to a need to take better care of themselves.

Homeless people and unwanted pets at shelters have a lot in common.

Seniors live longer when they have a pet that needs cared for - their longevity is something their pet needs.

[herbie]

Take away their chihuahuas and give them a gun to protect their meagre belongings, Be a real rightie

[August1991]

On 12/4/2025 at 5:47 PM, eyeball said:

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Homeless people and unwanted pets at shelters have a lot in common.

....

True.

And Eyeball, you want to impose human problems on innocent animals.

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I live in Montreal, on island. I reckon that we must solve urban city problems better.

[eyeball]

20 hours ago, August1991 said:

And Eyeball, you want to impose human problems on innocent animals.

I intentionally want to make things worse - now why on Earth would you say that?

Studies indicate that pets of people experiencing homelessness are generally as healthy as pets in housed populations, and owners often prioritize their pet's needs above their own. The quality of care can vary among individuals, just as it does among housed pet owners but I seem to hear more horror stories in the news about maltreatment of animals at the hands of people who have housing than people who don't.

20 hours ago, August1991 said:

I live in Montreal, on island. I reckon that we must solve urban city problems better.

I live out in BC's boonies on an island. I reckon we probably both approach our problems differently.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

I intentionally want to make things worse - now why on Earth would you say that?

 

Maybe you think the animals are Jewish and they've got it coming?

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Maybe you think the animals are Jewish and they've got it coming?

Just the ones that behave like Hamas.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Just the ones that behave like Hamas.

The jewish animals that are hamas?

Look....  we've talked about how much nyquil you're allowed in a day before..... 

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The jewish animals that are hamas?

Nope.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nope.

Wow, it only took you one post to flip flop this time  

NyQuil wore off I take it? 

[eyeball]

28 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

NyQuil wore off I take it? 

You take NyQuil? I'm not surprised.

[CdnFox]

Just now, eyeball said:

You take NyQuil? I'm not surprised.

I see your reading comprehension hasn't come back yet though   maybe tomorrow. Seriously, half a bottle a day is all you're allowed moving forward. 

[August1991]

On 12/6/2025 at 3:54 PM, eyeball said:

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Studies indicate that pets of people experiencing homelessness are generally as healthy as pets in housed populations....

.....

I live out in BC's boonies on an island. I reckon we probably both approach our problems differently.

Eyeball,

1. Have you ever seen feral dogs/cats in third world countries?

2. You live in coastal, fantasy-land, lottery-rich, limousine-liberal, finding-myself BC. I live in urban Montreal.

[eyeball]

19 hours ago, August1991 said:

Eyeball,

1. Have you ever seen feral dogs/cats in third world countries?

2. You live in coastal, fantasy-land, lottery-rich, limousine-liberal, finding-myself BC. I live in urban Montreal.

We have a feral cat right here in la la land. I have the bite marks to prove it. I have a house cat too and she's way more refined. Except when Numbnuts is around. 

Montreal has feral homeless people? Yikes.

 

[August1991]

On 12/8/2025 at 6:51 PM, eyeball said:

We have a feral cat right here in la la land. I have the bite marks to prove it. I have a house cat too and she's way more refined. Except when Numbnuts is around. 

Montreal has feral homeless people? Yikes.

 

We do.

In Montreal, we have feral people.

None have yet bit me.

Edited December 11, 2025 by August1991

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, August1991 said:

We do.

In Montreal, we have feral people.

None have yet bit me.

ALmost insulting to you if you think about it.  What, you're not 'biteworthy'?  WTF?

[John Stone]

On 6/10/2025 at 8:26 PM, CdnFox said:

They can to a degree. Or are you suggesting that we should Round them all up and lock them up and treat them like children because they can't care for themselves? The very fact that we let them roam free in the first place is proof that we believe that they are capable of some degree of self-management

And if they can't care for the animal then that will show in the animal itself. If the animal is suffering or is in poor health or malnutrition then deal with it.

But I am aware that there are significant number of studies that show that animals can bring people with mental health challenges or depression a significant amount of stability. Caring for them can lead people to want to care for themselves better. A pet can have a very powerful impact

So I'm reluctant to say they should be removed just because you think these guys should be making better life choices

RE:  Or are you suggesting that we should Round them all up and lock them up and treat them like children because they can't care for themselves?

YES. 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, John Stone said:

RE:  Or are you suggesting that we should Round them all up and lock them up and treat them like children because they can't care for themselves?

YES. 

We had a guy on here called Myata for a while. He blathered like a twat like you do.

If you can't actually say what you're thinking, and if Your IQ and cognitive skills are so weak that you can't even put together a coherent thought, and it's probably best if you keep your mouth shut rather than confirm that fact to the world

If you actually have a point to make, or something to say that makes sense, feel free to do so.

[John Stone]

 

Edited December 19, 2025 by John Stone

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, John Stone said:

 

Yeah, thought so. 

thanks for the selfie.  Sort of.  Well if you ever manage to get your head OUT of your ass, maybe consider writing something that makes sense.  Or just keep being a tard, your call. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

...thanks for the selfie.  Sort of.

Well, since you've mentioned it, it sorta looks like a hamster that missed its tail on the way by.