Conservatives Have Taken the Lead in Federal Polls

[Dave L]

3 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

His campaign manager has been outspoken against Pierre. Slammed him for blowing the lead they had over the Liberals, though it was probably more that the other parties lost support. A lot of people are thinking he wants Pierre to crash and burn so he can become the leader of the party.

Of course you don't follow Ontario Politics but turn around in the same sentence and bash them without any knowledge.  Ignorance is one of a Conservatives main weapons.

On 4/13/2025 at 9:50 AM, WestCanMan said:

I think that we would both agree that CBC and CTV have a dog in this fight, it's clear who that is, and the only weapon in their arsenal is "polling data". 

Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood for, he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media, he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his, all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of, the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008), his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis", he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with...  "But a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign". 

CBC has to start and end every story about the election with "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

When you look at the news on CBC, it's an awful lot like this:

1.  Carney has NO popular policies aside from the ones he stole from PP - which went completely against everything that the LPOC stood" ❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

2.  he's not the one with the dominating exchanges with the media "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

3.  he can't talk about any lies or scandals because they're all his"... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

4.  all of his MPs are Trudeau sycophants who Canadians are clearly quite sick of "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

5.  the main thing that he likes to to brag about is a blatant lie (2008)" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

6. his most recent job title in Canada was "the Economic Advisor to Causing our Homeless Crisis" "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

7. he's clearly tied with China who's in a trade war with us, "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

8. he just moved hundreds of high-paying jobs to the US who we're also in a trade war with... "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️"

 

They have one other story: "but a random dude donated to Poilievre's campaign", and that also ends with ""❤️Thank God ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️".

 

 

If you take "❤️BUT ❤️CARNEY❤️ IS STILL AHEAD IN THE POLLS❤️" out of the CBC's repertoire, you get a completely different picture of what's going on in this election cycle. It's 100% bleak from the Carney camp aside from the "polling data".

Scan through your memory banks and piece together all of the pro-Carney evidence that's real... what have you got? Can you write it all down here? What has Carney done well aside from help companies scam the system? He worked from the inside of the system and helped outsiders scam us. He's literally been the inside guy on bank-job for the past ten years. If he has a claim to fame, that's it. 

Yah it's never the Conservatives fault.  Blame everyone else, it's a world wide conspiracy.

[CdnFox]

Just now, Goddess said:

They voted against the Liberal PLAN for them.

If you watched the HoC proceedings and not just CBC news, you'd know that.

 

 Sigh. 

Liberals:  "We propose a plan that will tear down a lot of homes which might not be replaced!"

Conservatives: " we will be voting against that plan."

@Dave L  "THE CPC VOTED AGAINST THE LIBERAL HOUSING INITITIVE,  WHY ARE THEY AGAINST HOUSING?!?!"

[CouchPotato]

2 minutes ago, Dave L said:

Of course you don't follow Ontario Politics but turn around in the same sentence and bash them without any knowledge. .

Who did I bash?

[Goddess]

15 minutes ago, Dave L said:

Please provide a quote from source for that tidbit.

So I provided the cite for you, which you could have easily googled for yourself in 3 seconds.  (You're welcome, BTW.)

You obviously did not know that's what Carney said.

How do you feel about it?  Do you think an elitist, globalist banker is what Canada needs right now?

Edited April 15 by Goddess

[Dave L]

If Conservatives are really interested in who did what and by what party did it, go to this URL and it's all there.  The Accomplishments of the Conservative PMs is lacking any real substance.  If you want to keep doing this then VOTE CONSERVATIVE.  In particular look at Harpers accomplishments, and he endorsed PP.  List of prime ministers of Canada - Wikipedia

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forgot the url

[Dave L]

7 minutes ago, Goddess said:

So I provided the cite for you, which you could have easily googled for yourself in 3 seconds.  (You're welcome, BTW.)

You obviously did not know that's what Carney said.

How do you feel about it?  Do you think an elitist, globalist banker is what Canada needs right now?

I still have not found your supposed reference.  Maybe you forgot to put it in your rant.

 

 

[WestCanMan]

19 minutes ago, Dave L said:

Yah it's never the Conservatives fault.  Blame everyone else, it's a world wide conspiracy.

Can you say in your own words, exactly how unbiased and legitimate CBC News is? 

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Dave L said:

I still have not found your supposed reference.  Maybe you forgot to put it in your rant.

I couldn't find it either. Maybe it's below my post, genius. 

[Goddess]

11 minutes ago, Dave L said:

I still have not found your supposed reference.  Maybe you forgot to put it in your rant.

 

 

Wow.

You really need to be spoon-fed everything, don't ya?

 

[Dave L]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Because voting for Mulroney was worse than voting for Trudeau lol.

Sorry but you're 69 years dumb, Dave. Literally everything that you say points to credulity, lack of information, and ignorance. 

Honestly, take another look at your illiterate blurb up there and then guess how much I care about your opinion. 

Why is it when someone hits a nerve on a Conservative they immediately resort to name calling.  What is wrong with you?  If you can't control yourself get some help.  The truth hurts when you hear it.

[Dave L]

3 minutes ago, Dave L said:

Why is it when someone hits a nerve on a Conservative they immediately resort to name calling.  What is wrong with you?  If you can't control yourself get some help.  The truth hurts when you hear it.  I fail to get the drift of what you mean by "Because voting for Mulroney was worse than voting for Trudeau lol."  Everybody who votes votes for someone. What is really funny is you think I care that you don't care, that is rich. 

 

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additional comment

[Dave L]

6 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The reason he said that has already been explained several times by Poilievre and even Thomas Mulcaire. Look him up. You'll be surprised to find out who he is. 

"He must be hiding something" lol. You sure are informed, Dave. 

PP says a lot of things it doesn't make them true.  As far as Mulcaire is concerned what does he have to do with this discussion.  Nothing.  Try to stay on topic, unless changing the topic is your best move.

[Dave L]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Wow.

You really need to be spoon-fed everything, don't ya?

 

That's not a reference to a site, as you said it is.  It's a sentence underlined with no link to the internet.  The arrows only point to an underlined sentence on your post.  Maybe you don't understand how a reference is supposed to work.  But I did look it up.  So what.  It certainly doesn't disqualify him from anything.  I do understand how disappointed you are, before Trudeau stepped down you thought it was going to be a cake walk.  It never is.

Edited April 15 by Dave L

[Dave L]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I couldn't find it either. Maybe it's below my post, genius. 

Name calling by one now sarcastic name calling by another.  Conservatives are just so predictable.

[Dave L]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you say in your own words, exactly how unbiased and legitimate CBC News is? 

Blaming CBC news,  really!  It's always a conspiracy for the right, if things aren't goin as planned or wanted.  There are many news sources to listen to, unless you are in an area without internet or broadcast tv.  You don't like CBC, fine don't watch or listen to it.  Defunding it, is the Conservative response, anything they don't agree with they try to eliminate.  The extreme right, is notorious, at doing just that.  Canadians are a lot more savvy than that.

[Dave L]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He sent his campaign manager out to basically attack the hell out of PP, saying in all of the papers and everywhere he could possibly get attention that Poilievre  is utterly incompetent, and that he blew such a big lead because of campaign malpractice of the highest order and he's absolutely useless as a leader. He's claiming his recent Ontario win as proof that he's really great at politics and he knows a loser when he sees one and he thinks Poilievre is one. He's a little careful how he couches things but not much

Now it would be one thing for a conservative like Doug Ford to allow that kind of talk after an election. And in fact this guy has spoken up in the past after Erin's election and scheer's, the guy's been around a long time.

But to do it in the middle of a campaign? To do it while they still have a chance at victory? That's a deliberate attempt to sabotage a campaign.

But maybe he's acting alone, maybe he doesn't have ford's blessing right? So ford came out today and was asked about this guy's comments and basically said Poilievre should suck it up because the truth hurts. 

When his own ministers were working with the CPC and door knocking he was fairly derivative about it. When it was pointed out that one of his people supported Poilievre he replied "Well good for her" in a dismissive way. 

They're just isn't a lot of doubt. And insiders within his group who don't really approve of this have been leaking a little of the information. He went from city councilor to premier, and now he wants to go from premier to prime minister

But somehow Premier Smiths request to a foreign leader (Donald Trump) to pause tariffs till after the election is done, is okay with you.  I saw her say it and I read the transcript, it's a fact.  That is treason at best.  What Ford did isn't even in the same league.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Dave L said:

If Conservatives are really interested in who did what and by what party did it, go to this URL and it's all there.  The Accomplishments of the Conservative PMs is lacking any real substance.  If you want to keep doing this then VOTE CONSERVATIVE.  In particular look at Harpers accomplishments, and he endorsed PP.  List of prime ministers of Canada - Wikipedia

First prime minister of Canada, the father of confederation. 

John A.  Conservative. 

You lose kid. 

[WestCanMan]

9 hours ago, Dave L said:

Why is it when someone hits a nerve on a Conservative they immediately resort to name calling.  What is wrong with you?  If you can't control yourself get some help.  The truth hurts when you hear it.

You didn't "hit a nerve", you just plopped an illiterate, ignorant, unintelligent blurb there and I can tell it's a waste of time trying to explain any of it to you. 

IIRC you're the one who just said "homelessness is up everywhere", 1) FYI homelessness isn't a virus, it's what happens when immigration outpaces construction, 2) it's only happening where leftist governments enacted stupid leftist policies.

Edited April 15 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Dave L said:

PP says a lot of things it doesn't make them true.  As far as Mulcaire is concerned what does he have to do with this discussion.  Nothing.  Try to stay on topic, unless changing the topic is your best move.

OMG, of course it has everything to do with what Mulcaire said you id10t. Mulcaire explained why PP didn't get that clearance. So it wasn't just PP saying it, a former leader of the NDP said it as well. 

Yes, Thomas Mulcaire was a former leader of the federal NDP. Now you know. Are you even Canadian? Are you 12? Or are all liberals just that f'ing stupid...

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Dave L said:

Name calling by one now sarcastic name calling by another.  Conservatives are just so predictable.

Maybe there's a reason why "all conservatives call you stupid but liberals don't" 😉

Hint: the mountains call the foothills 'short'. 

8 hours ago, Dave L said:

Blaming CBC news,  really!  It's always a conspiracy for the right, if things aren't goin as planned or wanted.  There are many news sources to listen to, unless you are in an area without internet or broadcast tv.  You don't like CBC, fine don't watch or listen to it.  Defunding it, is the Conservative response, anything they don't agree with they try to eliminate.  The extreme right, is notorious, at doing just that.  Canadians are a lot more savvy than that.

I asked you a question, I didn't comment on the legitimacy of CBC myself. 

Just tell me how you feel about it... Wy is that so hard for you? 

[Dave L]

11 hours ago, Goddess said:

Your points are taken, and I do agree most voters can be quite shallow.

However, in this election, I think a big part of the Liberals downfall is that they have completely and utterly lost touch with everyday, tax-paying Canadians. We want to see our politicians relate to us and our struggles on some level.

I think that's why when Carney said, "Ya, I'm an elitist globalist and that's what Canada needs right now" - it backfired.

The Liberals are in anything but a downfall.  That is, yet another example of misinformation.  

[Dave L]

23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

OMG, of course it has everything to do with what Mulcaire said you id10t. Mulcaire explained why PP didn't get that clearance. So it wasn't just PP saying it, a former leader of the NDP said it as well. 

Yes, Thomas Mulcaire was a former leader of the federal NDP. Now you know. Are you even Canadian? Are you 12? Or are all liberals just that f'ing stupid...

More names and it's getting worse as the discussion goes on.  From names to profanity. You must be a joy to be around.

 

Edited April 15 by Dave L

[Dave L]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you say in your own words, exactly how unbiased and legitimate CBC News is? 

It would make no difference to you.  Every News agency has some bias left or right.  PP wants to take out any opposition to his rhetoric.  Don't watch CBC if it offends you.

[Dave L]

14 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

What a perfect time to undermine the federal party lol. What a loser. 

We were better off when the Fords were smoking crack. 

I may just end up voting for the NDP yet 😂 Thank God I never bet anyone.

Sounds like you have changed your mind now.  Following Ontario Politics after all.

 

[WestCanMan]

5 minutes ago, Dave L said:

It would make no difference to you.  Every News agency has some bias left or right.  PP wants to take out any opposition to his rhetoric.  Don't watch CBC if it offends you.

I just want to hear you say how legitimate and unbiased you find the CBC to be. That's it. Put it in your own words. 

Are you scared? 

If you're so convinced of the CBC's legitimacy as a news agency then say that. Man up. 

12 minutes ago, Dave L said:

More names and it's getting worse as the discussion goes on.  From names to profanity. You must be a joy to be around.

 

You're exasperating, dude. You're so unlucky when it comes to thinking that it's hard not to mention it.