The Last Time the Globe Warmed

[Legato]

18 hours ago, eyeball said:

You actually need a cite to know the climate changes...interesting...🤔

Same as the sky is falling crowd need cites when people point out it's not.

[Legato]

9 hours ago, robosmith said:

How many thousands of homes need to be destroyed in the heart of LA  AND across America from extreme tornados before you MAGA NUT recognize a CRISIS?

The winds just keep getting stronger and stronger with every barrel that is burned. Pretty soon your permafrost will melt and you won't know what hit YOU.

Tornado travels through open land no one cares, Cue greedy developer who knows open land is susceptible to tornado activity but builds anyway. Along comes a tornado and flattens some of the homes.

Oh Noes climate change. Quick we need a consensus.

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[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Tornado travels through open land no one cares, Cue greedy developer who knows open land is susceptible to tornado activity but builds anyway. Along comes a tornado and flattens some of the homes.

Oh Noes climate change. Quick we need a consensus.

Farmers care about tornados destroying their crops, so you are LYING. QED.

[Legato]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Farmers care about tornados destroying their crops, so you are LYING. QED.

Of course they do. They always have, and always will.

Try another spin, it might help the universe start to obey Newtons first law of motion.

Edited March 18 by Legato

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, Legato said:

Of course they do. They always have, and always will.

Try another spin, it might help the universe start to obey Newtons first law of motion.

Will it help you STOP LYING, TROLL?

[eyeball]

17 minutes ago, Legato said:

Same as the sky is falling crowd need cites when people point out it's not.

You're simply pointing out a strawman. No one needs a cite for that.

[robosmith]

31 minutes ago, Legato said:

Same as the sky is falling crowd need cites when people point out it's not.

Just because you FAIL to understand the science behind GHG warming the planet, and how permafrost melting is a tipping point, does not mean those who do are "the sky is falling crowd."

How about you demonstrate what you do understand about it?

Show us how permafrost melting will NOT cause runaway warming when all that methane is released into the atmosphere.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You fckin' right you need a citation...or 50.

Your premise concludes that our primary source of power and energy is absolutely destroying life on Earth. A very scary idea. Scary enough to make many people do just about anything to avoid.

However, many others hear such dire predictions and think, 'Is that right? Let's see.'

They do their own research and find out that the climate change scare is way overblown and the methods employed to mitigate are destroying our society from the bottom. The poor cannot afford the cost. Our entire economy has been artificially inflated to dizzying heights. And the climate religious come out in force, whenever their religion is questioned. 

Disadents must be crushed.

Except...you all forget that those who think for themselves, are often stronger than those who blindly follow. Thus...you will eventually...

Fail.

Mike Hardner  "CLIMATE CHANGE IS A CRISIS!! FOLLOW THE SCIENCE!!!!"

Sane people  "Ok, show me the science."

Mike Hardner " Oh!  You,,, ahh,,,, you want to actually...uhh... SEE the science?  ... Well.. ahhh...   YOU'RE A LOSER HA! (runs away)!"

also mike hardner '- "why doesn't anyone take me seriously?"

[Legato]

18 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're simply pointing out a strawman. No one needs a cite for that.

Yes but it's a plastic covered straw. There you go, now find the man.

20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Will it help you STOP LYING, TROLL?

About what?

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, Legato said:

Yes but it's a plastic covered straw. There you go, now find the man.

What's likelier is that one will be elected to ignore you people and simply take action based on what science says whether you like it or not.

You'll probably have a crisis over it.

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What's likelier is that one will be elected to ignore you people and simply take action based on what science says whether you like it or not.

You'll probably have a crisis over it.

Like this one....

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You fckin' right you need a citation...or 50.

Your premise concludes that our primary source of power and energy is absolutely destroying life on Earth. A very scary idea. Scary enough to make many people do just about anything to avoid.

However, many others hear such dire predictions and think, 'Is that right? Let's see.'

They do their own research and find out that the climate change scare is way overblown and the methods employed to mitigate are destroying our society from the bottom. The poor cannot afford the cost. Our entire economy has been artificially inflated to dizzying heights. And the climate religious come out in force, whenever their religion is questioned. 

Disadents must be crushed.

Except...you all forget that those who think for themselves, are often stronger than those who blindly follow. Thus...you will eventually...

Fail.

Excuse me? My premise? 

 

I don't think I posted a premise on this topic here in the thread. Maybe you intended to reply to someone else like eyeball.

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, Legato said:

Like this one....

This causes you a crisis?

[CdnFox]

49 minutes ago, eyeball said:

You're simply pointing out a strawman. No one needs a cite for that.

There's no straw man here. This is the simplest thing in the universe. You've made a claim about science and you therefore should be able to show the science. But you can't.

In fact you've admitted that there is no crisis. You claim that the crisis is that nobody believes that there's a crisis and that that's the only crisis, which means this is all about your anger at not being able to control others and has nothing to do with climate. 

You're a complete joke. You did NOTHING during the 10 years you had in power, even the liberals and ndp are admitting the carbon tax was a failure and are vowing to get rid of it, and now you can't demonstrate any crisis exists and you're big mad anyone would even ask you to. 

Climate change is not a crisis. 

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[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

What's likelier is that one will be elected to ignore you people and simply take action based on what science says whether you like it or not.

You'll probably have a crisis over it.

You elected that guy 10 years ago and he did nothing about climate change.

So based on demonstrable history the actual likely scenario is that deranged woke left people would elect a leader that pretends to do something about climate change, does nothing about climate change but uses it as an excuse to pocket their money, and Canada becomes worse and worse. And in the end it'll be the most vulnerable who suffer from that

[robosmith]

9 minutes ago, Legato said:

Like this one....

That's NOT ONE, it is MANY.

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

You fckin' right you need a citation...or 50.

Your premise concludes that our primary source of power and energy is absolutely destroying life on Earth.

IT's NOT just a "premise," it is a FACT that people are dying from unprecedented extreme weather events, like 100MPH winds in Los Angeles which cause $200B in damages.

You not believing that is a CRISIS just illustrated the DEPTH of YOUR DENIAL.

And you STILL don't understand what will happen when your permafrost melts.

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

A very scary idea. Scary enough to make many people do just about anything to avoid.

Just about anything REASONABLE. Duh

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

However, many others hear such dire predictions and think, 'Is that right? Let's see.'

They do their own research and find out that the climate change scare is way overblown and the methods employed to mitigate are destroying our society from the bottom. The poor cannot afford the cost. Our entire economy has been artificially inflated to dizzying heights. And the climate religious come out in force, whenever their religion is questioned. 

"The poor" will suffer the most from the tragedy in the making because they are living in the flood plains and islands that will be swamped by sea level rise.

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Disadents must be crushed.

Dissidents must be EDUCATED. Except you are IMMUNE to FACTS.

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Except...you all forget that those who think for themselves, are often stronger than those who blindly follow. Thus...you will eventually...

Fail.

You will EVENTUALLY UNDERSTAND when your IGNORANCE FAILS to PREPARE YOU for the permafrost melt.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, robosmith said:

IT's NOT just a "premise," it is a FACT that people are dying from unprecedented extreme weather events, like 100MPH winds in Los Angeles which cause $200B in damages.

But we have had extreme weather events throughout history. What you haven't proven is why it's a crisis. In fact you haven't proven that those extreme weather conditions are a direct result of global warming for that matter.

your FACTS are USELESS without PROOF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[eyeball]

26 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

There's no straw man here.

A falling sky is not just a strawman it's nuts. 

[Legato]

29 minutes ago, robosmith said:

That's NOT ONE, it is MANY.

Lies you mean?

[CdnFox]

13 minutes ago, eyeball said:

A falling sky is not just a strawman it's nuts. 

Cool story. You should write for fortune cookies.

You said in your own words there's no crisis, the only crisis is the fact that people don't believe there's a crisis. That's literally what you said. So even you don't believe in global warming, you just believe that in order to promote your agenda people should believe in it so that they'll do what you say.

Honestly you people are monsters

[eyeball]

32 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You elected that guy 10 years ago and he did nothing about climate change.

Very few who've been elected have. 

33 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So based on demonstrable history the actual likely scenario is that deranged woke left people would elect a leader that pretends to do something about climate change, does nothing about climate change but uses it as an excuse to pocket their money, and Canada becomes worse and worse. And in the end it'll be the most vulnerable who suffer from that.

I think what's likelier is that the mounting unavoidable effects of AGW will compel the use of force to take it seriously.

Of course corruption will only make things worse, especially for the most vulnerable.

Being woke is the only thing that will get us through it. Being indifferent, hard-assed and angry will just get a bunch of people killed.

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Cool story. You should write for fortune cookies.

You said in your own words there's no crisis, the only crisis is the fact that people don't believe there's a crisis. That's literally what you said.

People pointed out the danger the frog simmering in a pot of water was in decades ago.

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

So even you don't believe in global warming, you just believe that in order to promote your agenda people should believe in it so that they'll do what you say.

Honestly you people are monsters

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

Very few who've been elected have. 

Well I kind of shoots down your theory that people should be voting for climate change or that voters take climate change seriously or that you do

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I think what's likelier is that the mounting unavoidable effects of AGW will compel the use of force to take it seriously.

There doesn't seem to be any mounting unavoidable effects and you have never been able to provide any science to suggest there will be.  All of the effects so far pretty easy to deal with if you're serious about it, better forest management, air conditioning, so far it's really been pretty tame

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Of course corruption will only make things worse, especially for the most vulnerable.

Maybe you should stop voting for it then

 

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Being woke is the only thing that will get us through it. 

Being woke is what's killing it. Like I said even the liberals and NDP are forced to back away from the issue. Kearney is going to try and hide a tax on manufacturing which will be paid by the consumer but of course this will achieve nothing. You basically killed the subject, trump isn't likely to be doing any great climate change initiatives, nothing has changed

And yet somehow we're still alive.

What's happening is you're being exposed as a hoax. Climate change happens but it's not a crisis and it's nothing we can't address. Your own actions make that quite clear

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

People pointed out the danger the frog simmering in a pot of water was in decades ago.

 

And they turned out to be wrong.

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, CdnFox said:

Climate change happens but it's not a crisis and it's nothing we can't address.

Time will tell.