Charting the Danger of the Modern Left

[robosmith]

13 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

Right, but the origin of the usage is not always the common usage. So for instance in the definition I provided from Merriam Webster it says bloodbath can be used to describe an economic disaster. It does not say that it has to be an economic disaster marked by mass death, simply an economic disaster. This is an idiomatic meaning the term has taken on.

Oh, and... you are welcome.

Sorry but the origination of an idiom is almost always the most common usage because it is the one MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT. Except you, that is. 

[CouchPotato]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

Sorry but the origination of an idiom is almost always the most common usage because it is the one MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT. Except you, that is. 

No it isn't. That is entirely incorrect. Idioms do often arise from some specific literal event but become metaphorical expressions used to refer to something more general. That's what makes them idioms. For instance, "throw in the towel" originated in boxing, but the idiomatic meaning of that phrase is to give up or surrender in any kind of situation. If you look for a definition of that phrase you will more likely find the idiomatic definition than the boxing one. That is the way it is most commonly used. When you start to get low on motivation or energy someone might say you have "run out of steam." Now, I assume that idiom originates from steam engines, but I have never once heard it someone use it while talking about an actual steam engine. "Jump the gun" originates from someone starting a race before the pistol is fired, but in common usage it means to start anything too soon.

Now, once again, robosmith, the Merriam Webster dictionary gave "economic disaster" as one definition of "bloodbath". It does not require any amount of death to be involved. I mean what usage would the expression ever get if that were the case? Only to refer to the suicides of the great depression? That's silly. It's used all the time to refer to economic disaster.

Let's use another dictionary.

Here is one of the definitions from the Cambridge Dictionary.

 

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a very bad situation in which a lot of harm or damage is caused:

The government seem determined to continue in the face of an electoral bloodbath.

We know there will be a bloodbath of job cuts in January and February.

 

 

And here are few more examples they give of its usage.

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• There was a bloodbath on equity markets today as investors worry about the state of Europe's finances.
• She warns an economic bloodbath awaits unless the Bank acts quickly to cut rates.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/bloodbath

Edited March 6 by CouchPotato

[CouchPotato]

17 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Sorry but the origination of an idiom is almost always the most common usage because it is the one MOST PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT. Except you, that is. 

 

[Deluge]

11 hours ago, Barquentine said:

1. So citizens aren't citizens if you disagree with them? Remember, you're just talking about citizens, not immigrants. Who granted you this great power?

2. More stupidity. Did Trump teach you that?

1. Citizens who support illegal immigration are frauds. This is a fair assessment, wouldn't you say?

Make a compelling counterargument if you disagree. 

2. No, I learned that from watching democrats. Like the time that old cripple in Utah was gunned down in his own home by Biden's FBI goons.

Now get this straight. YOU are wrong. You are ALWAYS wrong and you always will be wrong because you're a goddamn leftist.

I hope this helps.  

Edited March 6 by Deluge

[Deluge]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

As an Atheist myself (I give us a capital A just because all the religions and countrymen get one), I'm not a real "RAH RAH RELIGION!" kind of guy, but I do respect Christian values and I support Christianity because I recognize that Christian values got us these countries which I admire. 

That being said, I also respect Buddhists, Sikhs, Hindus, and basically all other religions which don't influence their followers' behaviour in a negative manner. I feel like there are a lot of religions and beliefs that are simpatico with Christianity in general, but islam isn't one of them. 

I think that not having Christianity as a guiding light would be a mistake, and I think that people's disrespect of Christianity just shows that they're not really Canadian/American at heart. 

I respect this, and wish more Americans thought the same way.

Vivek Ramaswamy shares a similar point of view so you're in good company. 

[Deluge]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

Only the MAGA CULT is "duped by their leaders." In reality they are following incompetents and lDIOTS.

Just look at the complete lack of experience that makes up Trump's cabinet because he puts absolute loyalty above expertise. Who believes that a gig on FOS LIES pushing BULLSHIT qualifies anyone to run the DoD?

The entire left is unqualified, so why are you crying like a b*tch?

Get real statesmen back in your party or you'll continue to lose just like you did in November. 

[Deluge]

19 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

I think the major issue with the left is they seem to view anything which society considers to be the norm as some oppressive social construct to be torn down. And more recently, it's not just things they view as social constructs which are to blame. Reality itself is oppressive. The body you are born in is oppressive. The fact that men and women are fundamentally different is oppressive. They also believe that because they call themselves progressive that their ideas are always representative of progress.

Another danger I see which affects both sides of the spectrum is that intense polarization in the past 15 years or so has almost made politics like sports. Because we despise the other side so much, there is a tendency to cheer-lead our sides on. There is not much self-criticism. We have a political climate where it's become difficult to do so. To admit error nowadays is like apologizing to someone who wants to sue you. You are damned if you do and damned if you don't really. I suppose it's always been like this, but I think it's worse now. It sets people up on both sides to be duped by their leaders.

I think you're right. The left has ZERO interest in true progress, as everything they touch erodes almost instantly. 

That's why even Trump & Co. need their feet held to the fire. He's already pissing me off for not abandoning Ukraine, and the initial cuts DOGE was making is losing some gas. Pam Bondi is proving to be the weakest link, so it never ends for us voters. We have to be on everyone like white on rice. 

Edited March 6 by Deluge

[Deluge]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

You have to believe unproven things to be duped. Way too many MAGA CULT consistently post things here with ZERO EVIDENCE let alone proof.

You have no status here, robomarx; you're wrong about everything. 

[CouchPotato]

10 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If people don't want to be Canadian, and respect Cdn values and traditions, I really don't think that they should be allowed to come live here. And people who hate Cdn values and traditions have a multitude of other options to choose from if they want to leave.  

And it's not as if Canadians or Americans demand a great deal when it comes to respecting our cultures. Well, I mean I guess that applies to most western nations really. We are all pretty accommodating of immigrants.

[Deluge]

5 minutes ago, CouchPotato said:

And it's not as if Canadians or Americans demand a great deal when it comes to respecting our cultures. Well, I mean I guess that applies to most western nations really. We are all pretty accommodating of immigrants.

Not accommodating enough for leftoids, though. They want EVERYONE here in the US, except white conservatives of course. 

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, CouchPotato said:

And it's not as if Canadians or Americans demand a great deal when it comes to respecting our cultures. Well, I mean I guess that applies to most western nations really. We are all pretty accommodating of immigrants.

If anything, we're too 'accommodating'.

You can't go to an islamic culture and denigrate islam or mohammed. You can't denigrate Chinese culture in China, etc.

But it's almost like there's an "I hate white people/Christianity Olympics" going on here sometimes, and people who don't throw shade are flawed.

Part of being a liberal is viewing history through a prism where all the sins of other races and cultures are blurred out and only white people ever owned slaves, conquered territory, discriminated, etc. 

It's a fact that there are millions of people - who were educated in North America - who believe that white people invented slavery, and were never victims of it. 

[Barquentine]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

1. Citizens who support illegal immigration are frauds. This is a fair assessment, wouldn't you say?

Make a compelling counterargument if you disagree. 

2. No, I learned that from watching democrats. Like the time that old cripple in Utah was gunned down in his own home by Biden's FBI goons.

Now get this straight. YOU are wrong. You are ALWAYS wrong and you always will be wrong because you're a goddamn leftist.

And yet more brilliant, compelling arguments.

A citizen is a citizen is a citizen!

Anyone can cherry pick incidents, but using them for blanket statements is the weakest argument there is.

Your last statement isn't worth responding to.

[Deluge]

Just now, Barquentine said:

And yet more brilliant, compelling arguments.

1. A citizen is a citizen is a citizen!

2. Anyone can cherry pick incidents, but using them for blanket statements is the weakest argument there is.

3. Your last statement isn't worth responding to.

1. A leftist US citizen is an America hating psychopath who should give up his US citizenship. 

2. It's a statement that you haven't rebutted. The correct response is to produce at least two examples to the contrary. 

3. You've been shooting blanks, so it makes sense that you can't respond.  

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

And yet more brilliant, compelling arguments.

A citizen is a citizen is a citizen!

Anyone can cherry pick incidents, but using them for blanket statements is the weakest argument there is.

Your last statement isn't worth responding to.

What you're trying really hard to ignore is the fact that there are millions of people living here who are completely opposed to Cdn/American values and traditions, usually because of their own racism or religious bigotry, and the leftist political parties in NA pander to them. 

We don't need to import people who hate us. There's a huge world out there where people can hate us all they want from afar. We shouldn't bring them here and give them food, shelter and money. I don't see how that benefits us. 

[Deluge]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

What you're trying really hard to ignore is the fact that there are millions of people living here who are completely opposed to Cdn/American values and traditions, usually because of their own racism or religious bigotry, and the leftist political parties in NA pander to them. 

We don't need to import people who hate us. There's a huge world out there where people can hate us all they want from afar. We shouldn't bring them here and give them food, shelter and money. I don't see how that benefits us. 

It doesn't benefit us - it doesn't even benefit leftoids, but they're too woke to see it. 

Left-wingers remind me of those degenerate doctors in the movie Alien Resurrection. You know, the extra stupid one who's cocooned, but still gushing over the abomination alien standing over Ripley until it comes over and kills him. It's a similar situation with today's leftoids and illegal aliens. 

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, CouchPotato said:

 

VERY MANY of ^these examples refer to the stock market. Duh

[Deluge]

On 3/5/2025 at 9:07 AM, Deluge said:

This article was written about 7 years ago, but it still very much applies to today. 

A key point to remember here is that these cultists believe that "science and reason should replace religion as the foundation of a modern society." of course, this is a stupid idea and has no place in a Christian nation like the US, but there are still a lot of people (marxist heathens) who believe this. 

We've been given one more chance to fight these satanists, so we can't blow it. 

https://www.heritage.org/progressivism/commentary/charting-the-danger-the-modern-left

From the article:

“Know Thine Enemy” is a comprehensive take-down of the left and it should be read by those who want good to triumph over evil. (No, I’m not inciting violence here, but those who have abused political power for their own self-aggrandizement are not just misguided intellects.) Too often, we say that the left is wrong but well-intentioned. Some are. But most simply want government to control other people’s lives and they believe in Stalinistic methods to achieve that goal."

This is very important to know if truth is your primary goal. In my early adult years I used to avoid what these degenerates were pushing, but now it's obvious that you have to take that shit head-on in order to rip it to pieces. 

[Barquentine]

1 hour ago, Deluge said:

We've been given one more chance to fight these satanists, so we can't blow it.

You gotta start spelling your username with 3 d's.

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

You gotta start spelling your username with 3 d's.

You need to delete your account.  

[CdnFox]

16 hours ago, Barquentine said:

So do you think there are 2 classes of citizens, the ones he considers real and the other less worthy ones? "Real citizens". Those are his words.

That's the kind of response someone who knows they're losing would say.

I didn't make any statement whatsoever as to what I thought or didn't think. What I observed is that you were unable to counter his argument at all and just simply said N'uh uh!"  If you disagree you should be able to explain why you disagree. Your inability to do so suggests that you do believe that there are two classes of citizens as noted and you can't think of an argument against it.

Which would also explain why you twisted what I said into something I never said at all and tried to argue with that

Can you make a counter argument or are you in agreement with him and just butthurt about it?

Edited March 6 by CdnFox

[impartialobserver]

Having less religiosity in one's society does not diminish it. As long as you have freedom of speech and religion.. it is up to to the citizens to be religious or not. If they are.. fine. If they are not.. then fine again

 

[Barquentine]

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

That's the kind of response someone who knows they're losing would say.

I didn't make any statement whatsoever as to what I thought or didn't think. What I observed is that you were unable to counter his argument at all and just simply said N'uh uh!"  If you disagree you should be able to explain why you disagree. Your inability to do so suggests that you do believe that there are two classes of citizens as noted and you can't think of an argument against it.

Which would also explain why you twisted what I said into something I never said at all and tried to argue with that

Can you make a counter argument or are you in agreement with him and just butthurt about it?

Twisted your argument? Read! I just asked you a question, which apparently you don't want to answer. You're doing the twisting.
There are NOT two grades of citizenship. South Africa gave up Apartheid, Jim Crow laws are gone. Just 'cause he doesn't like someone's politics doesn't mean they aren't real citizens. And the insults he follows up with are childish.

[Deluge]

17 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Twisted your argument? Read! I just asked you a question, which apparently you don't want to answer. You're doing the twisting.
There are NOT two grades of citizenship. South Africa gave up Apartheid, Jim Crow laws are gone. Just 'cause he doesn't like someone's politics doesn't mean they aren't real citizens. And the insults he follows up with are childish.

Of course there aren't two grades of citizenship, officially, but some citizens are better than others. 

I, for example, am a better citizen than the vast majority of democrats, and am certainly a better citizen than any democrat on this forum.  

[Barquentine]

6 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Of course there aren't two grades of citizenship, officially, but some citizens are better than others. 

Maybe the first thing we've agreed on. There is hope.

[Deluge]

10 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Maybe the first thing we've agreed on. There is hope.

And it may be the only thing we agree on. It's hard to say at this point, but I guess we'll find out.