User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 20 minutes ago, eyeball said: That you made in the context of billionaires and taxes. And? 20 minutes ago, eyeball said: Seriously? You've made it clear you've forgotten what the subject even is. Always... I don't even know why you are here or bother. It always ends with you doing this crap. Quote
CdnFox Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Or it's a wellness check to see if anyone responds. Perhaps. But that does raise the question what if they don't? I doubt they'll send them a 'get better' card. Unless by "get better" they mean they'd better improve. Quote Plus, AI can analyze all the responses to see who put something worthwhile and who didn't. So feed the returns to a computer and let the results speak for themselves. Not really. AI is wonderful but for it to work it would need to be programmed with tens or hundreds of thousands or more examples of the correct responses. About all it could do is look for responses that deviate from the norm. And that could still be tens of thousands of responses, and they may not deviate in any kind of bad way. And at that point someone's looking through them. Unless you just decide to fire everyone who writes back 'eff off i'm busy". And what about the ones who say 'i was on holiday last week" There's 3 million gov't employees federally. there's a craptonne of different jobs. There's just no reasonable meaningful analysis of that many responses that doesn't involve a lot of time or money. So it's either as you say just to see who responds or to cause them to fear or he's looking to do some sort of weird unscientific poll to say "80 percent of workers reported they considered doing XXX task as an accomplishment, i think i could automate that. But either way it's creating instability and uncertainty in the workspace and thats just not a great management style for the long term Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 hours ago, User said: And? You've forgotten why. 2 hours ago, User said: Always... I don't even know why you are here or bother. It always ends with you doing this crap. It's your crap and it always ends with you running away when you're called on it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
gatomontes99 Posted February 24 Author Report Posted February 24 7 hours ago, CdnFox said: Perhaps. But that does raise the question what if they don't? I doubt they'll send them a 'get better' card. Unless by "get better" they mean they'd better improve. Not really. AI is wonderful but for it to work it would need to be programmed with tens or hundreds of thousands or more examples of the correct responses. About all it could do is look for responses that deviate from the norm. And that could still be tens of thousands of responses, and they may not deviate in any kind of bad way. And at that point someone's looking through them. Unless you just decide to fire everyone who writes back 'eff off i'm busy". And what about the ones who say 'i was on holiday last week" There's 3 million gov't employees federally. there's a craptonne of different jobs. There's just no reasonable meaningful analysis of that many responses that doesn't involve a lot of time or money. So it's either as you say just to see who responds or to cause them to fear or he's looking to do some sort of weird unscientific poll to say "80 percent of workers reported they considered doing XXX task as an accomplishment, i think i could automate that. But either way it's creating instability and uncertainty in the workspace and thats just not a great management style for the long term That sounds like you've given up. Maybe ten years ago this would be very hard. With the tech they have now, there can be meaningful analysis that leads to targeted cuts. Make no mistake, some of the cuts will go too far. But that is actually better than not going far enough. It is relatively easy to reinstate these people. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 9 hours ago, eyeball said: It's your crap and it always ends with you running away when you're called on it. There is nothing of substance left with you. You lie, you lie again, then you change the subject... Quote
Deluge Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 13 hours ago, eyeball said: Here are all the agencies that Elon Musk and DOGE have been trying to dismantle so far A comprehensive look at DOGE’s firings and layoffs so far Note both these articles say so far. Stay tuned. Yes I'm aware of the list, but where is the devastation to the people? Quote
Nationalist Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 12 hours ago, eyeball said: These are just grievances over opinions you don't share. It's not even close to being like medical misinformation for example that resulted in a COVID death rate that was 2.5 times higher where misinformation was consumed like mothers milk. How many people did your girlfriend here kill? That's just so much bullshit. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/covid19_mortality_final/COVID19.htm In fact, if there's any correlation at all, its with age and population density. You need to go lie to those soft-heads who scare easily and will choke down this bullshit. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 hour ago, User said: There is nothing of substance left with you. You lie, you lie again, then you change the subject... You changed the subject and then forgot what it was. It wasn't about Buffet's secretary's wage. You guys apply different meanings to the word lie now? By your count I'm up to three. Care to point them out for me? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 minute ago, eyeball said: It wasn't about Buffet's secretary's wage. YOU brought her up to try to point out some issue with the tax rates. Her wage is 100% part of that, because her wage puts her in the top tax bracket because she earns more than the vast amount of people do. This continues to be an example of your dishonesty. Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Deluge said: Yes I'm aware of the list, but where is the devastation to the people? Under a pile of collapsed Jenga blocks. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, User said: YOU brought her up to try to point out some issue with the tax rates. Yes that her's is twice as much as a billionaires. 4 minutes ago, User said: Her wage is 100% part of that, because her wage puts her in the top tax bracket because she earns more than the vast amount of people do. Yup, and a higher share of her income goes to taxes than Buffet's And the kid at Wendy's pays a bigger share than both her and Buffet's. In 2023 the US government spent $18,406 per person. Maybe to make it fair for everyone and instead of taxes the government should just send every American a bill for their share regardless of what they make. Buffet the Billionaire...$18,406 Buffet's Secretary...$18,406 The Wendy's kid...$18,406 15 minutes ago, User said: This continues to be an example of your dishonesty. Yes well, your use of the words lie and dishonesty are merely indicators that you're about to bolt. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Deluge Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 (edited) 22 minutes ago, eyeball said: Under a pile of collapsed Jenga blocks. What pile? Where are the devastated people? Edited February 24 by Deluge Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: That's just so much bullshit. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/sosmap/covid19_mortality_final/COVID19.htm The only bullshit here is you comparing state mortality rates to deny a comparison between the US and Canada. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60380317 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: You need to go lie to those soft-heads who scare easily and will choke down this bullshit. Doesnt fact that everything is a lie to you people seems a little suspicious? You just don't get that do you? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: The only bullshit here is you comparing state mortality rates to deny a comparison between the US and Canada. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60380317 Doesnt fact that everything is a lie to you people seems a little suspicious? You just don't get that do you? Gee thanks for this. Note how countrys' numbers jumps at the same time and basically follow the expected pattern since the USA has about 10 times the population? Again...thanks for further proving my point. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 15 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yes that her's is twice as much as a billionaires. OK, now you are just playing your dumb games as always. You just said it was not about her wage... and now you go on to make the same dumb arguments I have already explained. No, she doesn't pay twice as much as billionaires do. Billionaires are in the same tax brackets when it comes to income. 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Yes well, your use of the words lie and dishonesty are merely indicators that you're about to bolt. Yes, at some point, I grow tired of your bullshit. Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 5 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Gee thanks for this. Note how countrys' numbers jumps at the same time and basically follow the expected pattern since the USA has about 10 times the population. Basically follows until the blue line just about shoots off the chart. According to you the rates should have kept pace throughout the pandemic. Meaning the distance between the lines should have been the same. If we'd followed the US rate Canada would have had around 150000 deaths instead of just 35500 or so. You've welcome. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 18 minutes ago, eyeball said: Basically follows until the blue line just about shoots off the chart. According to you the rates should have kept pace throughout the pandemic. Meaning the distance between the lines should have been the same. If we'd followed the US rate Canada would have had around 150000 deaths instead of just 35500 or so. You've welcome. LOL...what a thin argument. You been owned...see ya. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 20 minutes ago, User said: OK, now you are just playing your dumb games as always. You just said it was not about her wage... That's right, I've always said it was only about taxes ever since you raised the subject, Who are you talking to? People with 400 billion do pay taxes. Perhaps things are different there in Canada, like, do you guy only tax kids at Wendys? See? Taxes you said not wages. So presumably I struck a nerve when I wrote No it's the same in Canada. The kids working at Wendy's pay a higher tax rate and a far bigger share of their income than Wendy's owners.Like Warren Buffett and his secretary. 31 minutes ago, User said: No, she doesn't pay twice as much as billionaires do. Billionaires are in the same tax brackets when it comes to income. There are clearly two ways at looking at this, the amount in dollars and cents a person pays as opposed to a share of their income...profits...gains...whatever. As I said billions are spent on accountants, lawyers and lobbyists quibbling over this with the result being the kid at Wendy's paying the most and Warren Buffet never having had it better. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: the kid at Wendy's paying the most and Warren Buffet never having had it better. How is the kid at Wendy's paying the most? Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: LOL...what a thin argument. You been owned...see ya. You don't have to take it from me. Did you read the article the graph I posted is from? Or did you just seeth and hiss LIES....LIES...LIES!? But since the pandemic began, Canada has fared far better than the US, despite similar income disparities, territorial divides, and comorbidities such as obesity and hypertension as its southern neighbour. There is a staggering difference, for example, in how many more Americans have died because of Covid compared to Canadians, both in absolute numbers and as the ratio of deaths per million inhabitants. So what is going on, and why might Canada's experience be different to that of the US so far? Edited February 24 by eyeball Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You don't have to take it from me. Did you read the article the graph I posted is from? Or did you just seeth and hiss LIES....LIES...LIES!? But since the pandemic began, Canada has fared far better than the US, despite similar income disparities, territorial divides, and comorbidities such as obesity and hypertension as its southern neighbour. There is a staggering difference, for example, in how many more Americans have died because of Covid compared to Canadians, both in absolute numbers and as the ratio of deaths per million inhabitants. So what is going on, and why might Canada's experience be different to that of the US so far? Why? Tell me...what's the population density in the USA compared to Canada's? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 1 minute ago, User said: How is the kid at Wendy's paying the most? He's paying a bigger share of his income. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
User Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 Just now, eyeball said: He's paying a bigger share of his income. How? Quote
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 Just now, Nationalist said: Why? Tell me...what's the population density in the USA compared to Canada's? Pretty much the same from about 150 miles north of the border on down. Are you seriously going to try and argue that it was the vast empty spaces and distances further north of that narrow band that explains the staggering difference? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted February 24 Report Posted February 24 3 minutes ago, User said: How? His employer deducts and remits it. 57 minutes ago, User said: OK, now I'm just playing dumb games as always. Tell me about it. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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