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[User]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Seriously? You conservatives have provided enough oxygen and reasons to keep terrorists busy for generations.

And once again... you side with the terrorists. 

You might as well sit here saying the woman gave her husband enough reasons for him to beat her. 

She deserved it, right?

 

Edited Sunday at 05:11 PM by User

[eyeball]

20 minutes ago, User said:

And once again... you side with the terrorists. 

And as always you deliberately equate any understanding of why terrorists exist in the world with support for them.

It's a tired old worn out shtick you people use use as both a crutch and a weapon.

23 minutes ago, User said:

You might as well sit here saying the woman gave her husband enough reasons for him to beat her. 

She deserved it, right?

Nope. What you're arguing is that the woman should just give up and get with the program.

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Seriously? You conservatives have provided enough oxygen and reasons to keep terrorists busy for generations.

Your talking out your a$$ again,it was liberals that sent us to Afghanistan, and it was Conservatives that brought us out....It was liberals that paid out Omar and his family of terrorist....the list goes on and on....the point the liberal government has sent our military into more conflicts than any other government....

[eyeball]

36 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

...the point the liberal government has sent our military into more conflicts than any other government....

Nope. The point is that most modern terrorist groups are a consequence of conservatives such as Churchill and Eisenhower who started the practice of siccing tyrants and warlords on innocent populations around the world, starting with Iran's in 1953.

This sort of respectability that was afforded to authoritarianism has resulted in some 70% of humanity living under its thumb.

It'll be up to secular lefties to clean up the mess that conservatives, especially the religious ones, are making of things.

As far as the ME conflict goes there's barely a secular lefty anywhere in sight on either side which is why it will likely continue for centuries.

 

[Army Guy]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nope. The point is that most modern terrorist groups are a consequence of conservatives such as Churchill and Eisenhower who started the practice of siccing tyrants and warlords on innocent populations around the world, starting with Iran's in 1953.

This sort of respectability that was afforded to authoritarianism has resulted in some 70% of humanity living under its thumb.

It'll be up to secular lefties to clean up the mess that conservatives, especially the religious ones, are making of things.

As far as the ME conflict goes there's barely a secular lefty anywhere in sight on either side which is why it will likely continue for centuries.

 

yup....you could just check our history....you can use goggle right....it does have a readers version if you can't make out the words...

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

yup....you could just check our history....you can use goggle right....it does have a readers version if you can't make out the words...

I am talking about history, that of powerful conservatives whose geopolitical vandalism have led to a world increasingly dominated by authoritarianism, warlordism and of course terrorism.

[User]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Nope. What you're arguing is that the woman should just give up and get with the program.

This is why I say you support the terrorists. You just flipped this script to portray the good guys fighting the terrorists as the abusive husband. 

[SpankyMcFarland]

8 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Your talking out your a$$ again,it was liberals that sent us to Afghanistan, and it was Conservatives that brought us out....It was liberals that paid out Omar and his family of terrorist....the list goes on and on....

And what about Iraq? Who wanted us more heavily involved in that conflict - Chrétien or Harper? 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, User said:

This is why I say you support the terrorists. You just flipped this script to portray the good guys fighting the terrorists as the abusive husband.

Are you capable of recognizing the legitimacy of even a single Palestinian grievance? 

[User]

27 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Are you capable of recognizing the legitimacy of even a single Palestinian grievance? 

Legitimacy... to commit acts of terrorism? To invade on October 7th to rape, murder, torture, and take hostages? 
 

[Nationalist]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Are you capable of recognizing the legitimacy of even a single Palestinian grievance? 

I understand the Palestinian grievances. They didn't just get conquered by superior forces. The also got fcked over by politicians and greed...the Brits and the Ottomans...the Rothchilds and Balfore.

They were stripped of their livelihoods...murdered...raped...treated worse than dogs. For money and a bunch of Russian Ashkenazi. The very tribe the Roman's turfed because they were taking over Palestine...the Babylonians turfed...the Kazars turfed...and finally the Russians and Germans tried to destroy. Evidently, there's something about these Ashkenazi that upsets people. 

However...the Palestinians launched an equally disgusting attack and have begged for a war they could never hope to win. A hail Mary to try creating a regional war against Israel...which has failed.

These Semites, both local and the watered-down Russian version, deserve each other. Encircle them and deal with the ultimate winner. Also...may I suggest "we", the lowly Goy and Infidels, learn from history and watch these Ashkenazi closely. Beware the tentacles of money.

Edited yesterday at 01:12 PM by Nationalist

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, User said:

Legitimacy... to commit acts of terrorism? To invade on October 7th to rape, murder, torture, and take hostages? 

So no. I didn't think so.

49 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

These Semites, both local and the watered-down Russian version, deserve each other.

Forcing them on one another is actually on us.

[Nationalist]

19 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So no. I didn't think so.

Forcing them on one another is actually on us.

On you maybe but...don't include me in that mud puddle.

The Palestinians are the "low man on the totem pole" in Arab society. Looked down on.

The Ashkenazi have been turfed out of every land they try to occupy.

Its a marriage made in Hell. Let them roast together.

[User]

47 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So no. I didn't think so.

We were talking about acts or terrorism and you were saying the west was giving the terrorist reasons to be terrorists... so what legitimacy are you talking about here?

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, User said:

We were talking about acts or terrorism and you were saying the west was giving the terrorist reasons to be terrorists...

Acts of terror born of resistance.

1 hour ago, User said:

so what legitimacy are you talking about here?

Resistance. It's what you would do isn't it? 

[User]

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Acts of terror born of resistance.

And are you saying this is legitimate?

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Resistance. It's what you would do isn't it? 

You seem to be obfuscating now like you always do... conflating terrorism with resistance. 

 

[eyeball]

1 minute ago, User said:

And are you saying this is legitimate?

Resistance to oppression is always legitimate.

1 minute ago, User said:

You seem to be obfuscating now like you always do... conflating terrorism with resistance. 

No, you're denying the legitimacy of resistance.

[User]

Just now, eyeball said:

Resistance to oppression is always legitimate.

So, what does any of this have to do with the terrorism we were discussing here? You say you oppose it and now you are saying it is resistance to oppression and legitimate. 

Just now, eyeball said:

No, you're denying the legitimacy of resistance.

To what? Be specific here. This is a discussion on Israel/Gaza and the war going on. So what resistance are you talking about here that is legitimate? 

[eyeball]

13 minutes ago, User said:

So, what does any of this have to do with the terrorism we were discussing here? You say you oppose it and now you are saying it is resistance to oppression and legitimate. 

It's just another form of warfare, is war legitimate?

15 minutes ago, User said:

To what? Be specific here. This is a discussion on Israel/Gaza and the war going on. So what resistance are you talking about here that is legitimate? 

Resistance to oppression, subjugation and dispossession.

Take the illegal settlements in the Westbank for example.

[User]

13 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It's just another form of warfare, is war legitimate?

So, again... you fully supported the rape, torture, murder, hostage taking on October 7th. 

14 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Resistance to oppression, subjugation and dispossession.

Take the illegal settlements in the Westbank for example.

Again, this is about the war in Gaza. What were the illegal settlements there? Was Hamas actions on October 7th the legitimate resistance to oppression you support here?

[eyeball]

7 minutes ago, User said:

So, again... you fully supported the rape, torture, murder, hostage taking on October 7th. 

And again, you fully support the rape, torture, murder and detention without charges that Israelis have been inflicting against Palestinians for almost 100 years.

And now you can add indiscriminate bombing of civilians and using famine as a weapon of war to the list of Israeli atrocities.

7 minutes ago, User said:

Again, this is about the war in Gaza. What were the illegal settlements there?

No, this is about the ME Conflict that's been underway for nearly a century now.

7 minutes ago, User said:

Was Hamas actions on October 7th the legitimate resistance to oppression you support here?

There were certainly war crimes committed that day that need to be addressed.

Edited yesterday at 04:42 PM by eyeball

[User]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And again, you fully support the rape, torture, murder and detention without charges that Israelis have been inflicting against Palestinians for almost 100 years.

And now you can add indiscriminate bombing of civilians and using famine as a weapon of war to the list of Israeli atrocities.

Israel was not raping, torturing, or murdering people in Gaza. Israel was busy building a wall and defenses just to keep them away to live in the misery of their own making. 

This is just pathetic deflection from your support for what Hamas did on the 7th. 

There is no "indiscriminate bombing" going on. 

As it has been pointed out to you terrorist loving rape supporting people before, if Israel wanted to, they could line up their tanks and just roll right through Gaza mowing everyone down. They could carpet bomb them into oblivion. Every single man, woman, child dead. 

They don't do that though. 

If Hamas had that military power on the 7th, they would have done that to everyone in Israel. The death toll would not have been over a thousand, it would have been every single person, raped, murdered, tortured, and dead. 

 

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, this is about the ME Conflict that's been underway for nearly a century now.

No, this was a thread and discussion on Israel/Gaza. 

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There were certainly war crimes committed that day that need to be addressed.

Back to your same dishonest, cowardly BS. There is no process to "address" what happened that day you can articulate. 

[eyeball]

54 minutes ago, User said:

Israel was not raping, torturing, or murdering people in Gaza

Oh yes they were and in Israeli prisons too. It's been documented by human rights groups.

54 minutes ago, User said:

Back to your same dishonest, cowardly BS. There is no process to "address" what happened that day you can articulate. 

That's because Israel doesn't recognize a Palestinian nation. They need this so they can negotiate extraditions and exchange evidence and so on.

[User]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Oh yes they were and in Israeli prisons too. It's been documented by human rights groups.

Israel was engaged in state sponsored and condoned rape? Torture? Murder?

Lets see your best example. 

4 minutes ago, eyeball said:

That's because Israel doesn't recognize a Palestinian nation. They need this so they can negotiate extraditions and exchange evidence and so on.

You don't need any of that to hold Hamas accountable nor would that all of a sudden be a way to do so. 

All you have is excuses, so you can defend your terrorist pals and continue supporting their rape and torture of innocent women and children, taking hostages. 

[Army Guy]

15 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said:

And what about Iraq? Who wanted us more heavily involved in that conflict - Chrétien or Harper? 

Not sure why so many Canadians think that avoiding that conflict was one of Canada's best decisions ever...It was sold that way, because the liberals wanted it that way....Aside from that Canadian soldiers, airmen and sailors did play a role in both gulf wars...under a much different operation but directly involved with the gulf wars....  

Harper wanted us involved, it made sense it was a massive coalition, but here's the rub, at the time Iraq had much better equipment than we did, no way we could have been involved in high intense combat with Iraq without taking huge losses...Chretien knew that it was his policies "decade of darkness" that put us there....Saying that we could have still played a role in the rear someplace...