WestCanMan Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 I told you guys he was Hitler, but no one listened! Dummies. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Barquentine Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I told you guys he was Hitler J. D. Vance said he could be Hitler too. During the 2016 presidential election, Vance wrote that he goes “back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a–hole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler.” Quote
Radiorum Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 (edited) Trump is a homegrown, American fascist. Philosopher and novelist Umberto Eco, drawing on his personal experiences growing up in Mussolini’s fascist Italy, as well as extensive research, penned the influential essay “Ur-Fascism” or “Eternal Fascism: Fourteen Ways of Looking at a Blackshirt” His insights on fascism – the features of fascism: 1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.” 2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” 3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” 4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.” 5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” 6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.” 7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” 8. The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” 9. Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.” 10. Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.” 11. Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.” 12. Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.” 13. Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.” 14. Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.” Edited February 18 by Radiorum 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 (edited) 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: His insights on fascism – the features of fascism: Ho-hummmmm.... Quote 1. The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.” Leftists don't get to use the word "cult". Gimme a break. Quote 2. The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.” Who's to say that it's not ok to dislike modernism but it is ok to deride Christianity? "Anyone who dislike what I like is a fascist!" Quote 3. The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.” That's both a ridiculous generalization and a shallow, stupid accusation. I can't believe anyone put their name beside that quote. Quote 4. Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.” I'm pretty sure that leftards are the ones who control free speech. There was a time when you couldn't say BSL4 lab or laptop without getting banned from social media. Leftards shrieked that it was an abomination even to consider that there could be other options aside from the jab, and that's going back before it even went through trials. #4 is the most damning indictment of leftards there is. Aside from that on, you guys are only half bad. Edited: Upon further review of the list, it has become apparent that #7 is actually the worst, but #4 is pretty bad as well. Quote 5. Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.” Same as 4. Quote 6. Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.” Why do you just copy and paste that shit without thinking about it? The middle class was suffering under Biden. Gas and grocery prices soared while wages did nothing. Interest rates soared. All of that while DEI tribunals were forcing people to go to classes where they were shamed for their "whiteness". Quote 7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” Like the "Russian collusion" plot, or the "Ukrainian collusion" plot, or the "US Gov't was almost overthrown by some guys with a fire extinguisher" plot, or the "white nationalists are the biggest terrorist threat that America faces" plot, or the "cops are killing all the gentle" plots, plural plot? The Dems and CNN had 150M leftards tilting at bodegas, thinking they be dragons, and then before the fires were even out they were saying "fiery but mostly peaceful protest!. You gotta admit that leftard media OVERWHELMED their id10t cultist horde with plot after plot after plot for the past ten years, and none of them had any basis in reality. I can't believe that you saw #7 there and thought "Oh my goodness, that certainly applies to conservatives!" 😂 Talk about a lack of self-awareness. Edited February 18 by WestCanMan Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Barquentine Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Umberto Eco: Thinking is a form of emasculation.” The belief of insecure men. Fear! 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 41 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: 7. The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.” Q-Anon, Deep State, PizzaGate. The list is endless 1 Quote
Barquentine Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 44 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Why do you just copy and paste that shit without thinking about it? Why do you? Even if what you say at #6 is correct, then #6 is absolutely correct. Think about it. 47 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Disagreement is treason As Trump fires everybody who isn't loyal to him. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Q-Anon, Deep State, PizzaGate. The list is endless OMG. And what % of conservatives were all Q-Anon followers? For all I know, QAnon was right about a lot of stuff. I don't even know what they say/ Deep State? The cat's outta the bag on that one. "62% of Americans feel like the trials against Trump were politically motivated..." And who the hell do you think ran the US while Biden was napping? Pizzagate? Are you comparing that to Russian collusion? Every leftard in NA was totally hoodwinked by the Russian collusion farce. The Deep State (😉) went all-in on it. The list is a bunch of trivial BS, most of which turned out to be true, thank you very much. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 5 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Why do you? Even if what you say at #6 is correct, then #6 is absolutely correct. Think about it. OMG. It's only an "appeal to social frustration" if you're massaging the issue to make it seem like a bigger deal than it really is, in order to foment hatred against other groups. Inflation wasn't fake, or massaged. The US had the highest inflation in over 40 years under Biden. The issue of inflation was made worse by alt-left media and the POTUS pretending that it wasn't real. The whole MSM in unison: "1) The issue of inflation is false, and 2) Biden is mentally fit as a fiddle." That's just: 1) gaslighting and 2) 500,000 copies of The Emperor's New Mental Acuity. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Radiorum Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 56 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Talk about a lack of self-awareness. You are the one that posted that Trump is Hitler, and I presented the features of fascism from a renowned expert on fascism, which supports your position, and anyone with a modicum of understanding about what is going on the the US can see that many those features are happening there now, and you turn around and answer with an attack on the Left? Talk about a lack of self-awareness. Quote
Radiorum Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Deep State? The cat's outta the bag on that one. "62% of Americans feel like the trials against Trump were politically motivated..." the correct figure is 57% - 93% of Republicans and 17% of Democrats And that shows that the Republicans fell for the conspiracy theory 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 9 minutes ago, Radiorum said: the correct figure is 57% - 93% of Republicans and 17% of Democrats And that shows that the Republicans fell for the conspiracy theory It also shows that you have a huge uphill battle convincing Republicans that this "deep state" doesn't exist. Good luck with that. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
robosmith Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: OMG. And what % of conservatives were all Q-Anon followers? For all I know, QAnon was right about a lot of stuff. I don't even know what they say/ Deep State? The cat's outta the bag on that one. "62% of Americans feel like the trials against Trump were politically motivated..." And who the hell do you think ran the US while Biden was napping? Pizzagate? Are you comparing that to Russian collusion? Every leftard in NA was totally hoodwinked by the Russian collusion farce. The Deep State (😉) went all-in on it. The list is a bunch of trivial BS, most of which turned out to be true, thank you very much. You are just outright DELUSIONAL. The US Senate confirmed that Manafort was COLLUDING WITH RUSSIA while serving as Trump's campaign manager. You continually refusing to accept that REALITY only proves just how OFF THE RAILS you are. BTW, only the most deluded of the MAGA CULT believes the QAnon BS. You know, the ones that traveled to Dallas to meet JFK Jr. when he showed up there a couple of years ago. LMAO Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 41 minutes ago, Radiorum said: You are the one that posted that Trump is Hitler, and I presented the features of fascism from a renowned expert on fascism, which supports your position, and anyone with a modicum of understanding about what is going on the the US can see that many those features are happening there now, and you turn around and answer with an attack on the Left? Talk about a lack of self-awareness. Trump is pretty bad, but his platform didn't include "peeing on everything in the northern hemisphere and calling it mine." If you had a modicum of understanding you could have admitted that Joe was an abomination of a prsident and Kamala was an even worse candidate. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Barquentine Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Inflation wasn't fake, or massaged. Course it wasn't fake and I don't know wtf 'massaged' means in this context. And how did the media make inflation worse? You do not understand the point. Demagogues use real or perceived issues, not because they have a solution or even care, but to stoke the emotions for their own ends. And remember, this is just one point in a list of 14. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 2 minutes ago, Barquentine said: Course it wasn't fake Easy to admit now, but the POTUS, Dems and MSM were pretending that inflation wasn't soaring when we all knew it was. Quote and I don't know wtf 'massaged' means in this context. The story wasn't exaggerated or fluffed up to stoke anger. All of the things that Trump talked about were real. At first it seemed like him constantly bringing up the story of every American who was killed by illegals was a sad gimmick, but when the stats came out and we found out that, among the illegals there were 400,000 convicts and 40,000 of them or some such were rapists and murderers, it drove the point home that illegals actually did pose a serious threat. The taking-over of apartment complexes in a couple of different cities helped confirm that. Quote And how did the media make inflation worse? You do not understand the point. The conservative media didn't make it worse. The leftist media just downplayed it. Quote Demagogues use real or perceived issues, not because they have a solution or even care, but to stoke the emotions for their own ends. FYI every politician plays up real or perceived issues. The Dems try to pretend that "white nationalists" commit most of the terrorist attacks in the US. The Dems try to pretend that racist cops like shooting black men, and even when there is wide-scale, violent rioting happening across the country, they still fan the flames with complete disregard for the truth. Quote And remember, this is just one point in a list of 14. And all the ones before it were garbage as well. I just stopped at that point. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Nationalist Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I told you guys he was Hitler, but no one listened! Dummies. I would suggest you calm down a bit. Anyone with just a bit of insight can figure out that Trump is just being Trump. He's freaking the weak minded people right out with outlandish statements of intent. Its a very simplistic but effective negotiating strategy. Trump is not Hitler and Poilievre is not a Trump puppet. I get your patriotism and natural reaction but...stop and think. Would Trump really wanna govern Canada? Me thinks not. He wants Canada to respond favourably to his ideas. And its working. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: It also shows that you have a huge uphill battle convincing Republicans that this "deep state" doesn't exist. I know, it's tough, because they are listening to a bunch of liars. Quote
eyeball Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 5 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I told you guys he was Hitler, but no one listened! Dummies. No you said Trudeau was. Why should we listen now? The conversion of Canada's MAGA tards into woke tards is fascinating. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 21 minutes ago, Radiorum said: I know, it's tough, because they are listening to a bunch of liars. Says the M0ron who supported the Democrats' bald faced lies for years... Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Radiorum Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 1 minute ago, Nationalist said: Says the M0ron who supported the Democrats' bald faced lies for years... I have never expressed an opinion about the Democrats in these forums. Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: I would suggest you calm down a bit. Anyone with just a bit of insight can figure out that Trump is just being Trump. He's freaking the weak minded people right out with outlandish statements of intent. Its a very simplistic but effective negotiating strategy. Trump is not Hitler and Poilievre is not a Trump puppet. I get your patriotism and natural reaction but...stop and think. Would Trump really wanna govern Canada? Me thinks not. He wants Canada to respond favourably to his ideas. And its working. I never said Poilievre was his puppet, but Trump is still an a-hole now. I think the general rule of thumb is: "If you say the things that only an a-hole would say, you're an a-hole." Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Nationalist Posted February 18 Report Posted February 18 9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: I never said Poilievre was his puppet, but Trump is still an a-hole now. I think the general rule of thumb is: "If you say the things that only an a-hole would say, you're an a-hole." But...that makes you and me a-holes too. No? I mean...I freely admit my a-holish side. I fully believe Trump can be a HUGE a-hole. I hope...Pierre can muster some a-holishness too...as it appears he can. What I'm saying is that Trump is not your enemy. Not any more than he is Britain's enemy or any other nation. Trump is a Nationalist. His primary concern is always for the USA...not Canada. As a WestCanMan, you want whats best for Canada. Well...I'd say that right about now is a good time for some o' that good ol' Canadian intellect...when dealing with the loud Yankees. Ignore the childish outbursts and see them for what they are. Give them a smile, a glass o' water and a cookie, pat them on the head and send them to bed. In the morning, send them off to tour Europe with a Canadian flag on their backpack...for safety's sake. You know...BE CANADIAN! Then...go to the bank... And sorry...I know you didn't say Poilievre is a puppet...I was quoting popular Libbie BS. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
WestCanMan Posted February 18 Author Report Posted February 18 18 minutes ago, Nationalist said: But...that makes you and me a-holes too. No? I mean...I freely admit my a-holish side. I personally didn't know that Trump was going to try to expand the empire when he was running against Kamala. I doubt anyone did. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
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