gatomontes99 Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 (edited) Quote Border czar Tom Homan suggested an investigation into Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) could be forthcoming after critics said her latest effort to oppose deportation for illegal immigrants may have broken federal law. ... “So, maybe AOC is going to be in trouble now, but I need the AOG to opine on that. Impediment is impediment, in my opinion,” Homan said. “I'm not a prosecutor, but we need some further guidance on that. But again, if we have to take every federal dollar out of the city, we’ll do it. I mean, we're done." https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/homan-floats-investigation-into-aoc-after-webinar-for-illegal-immigrants/ar-AA1z3Qoc Real. Material. Losses. That is how you get these people to follow the law. No more playing around. Those days are gone. The parents are in charge and making the kids clean up their room. Edited February 14 by gatomontes99 2 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Real. Material. Losses. That is how you get these people to follow the law. No more playing around. Those days are gone. The parents are in charge and making the kids clean up their room. So you think it should be illegal to inform other people of their legal rights? Pretty fashy, but unsurprising. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: So you think it should be illegal to inform other people of their legal rights? Pretty fashy, but unsurprising. If that was what she was doing, Homan wouldn't be after her. The seminar, reportedly, advised illegal immigrants how to avoid ICE. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 6 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: If that was what she was doing, Homan wouldn't be after her. LMAO, don't be retarded. The point is to create fear and intimidate political opponents regardless of whether they have cause. That's what fascists do. Quote The seminar, reportedly, advised illegal immigrants how to avoid ICE. Oh yeah? How? Deploy smoke bombs? Dress up in disguises? Hide out on Turkish soil perhaps? Or maybe it was as it was reported in your own link: Quote During Ocasio-Cortez's office’s Facebook webinar, which she did not attend, livestream hosts said the Fourth Amendment applies to everyone, including illegal immigrants. The constitutional protection affords a defense from “unreasonable” searches and seizures by the government. "So, there's a general rule here, which is in private spaces, ICE is going to need a warrant signed by a judge or your consent to enter that space or to do a search. When we're talking about public spaces, ICE will need reasonable suspicion in order to make an arrest," said one speaker, who identified herself as Laura. ... Following the webinar, Ocasio-Cortez posted a series of “Know Your Rights” pamphlets on her social media accounts educating illegal immigrants on how to respond to ICE agents. The documents, written in English and Spanish, advised people not to open doors to agents unless they have a warrant, warned them not to share any personal information with authorities, and told them to hire a lawyer in anticipation of ICE operations. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 26 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Real. Material. Losses. That is how you get these people to follow the law. No more playing around. Those days are gone. The parents are in charge and making the kids clean up their room. Good. I hope he nails that psychopath to a tree. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 Just now, Deluge said: Good. I hope he nails that psychopath to a tree. He's got nothing, just like you. 1 Quote
Deluge Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 19 minutes ago, Black Dog said: So you think it should be illegal to inform other people of their legal rights? Pretty fashy, but unsurprising. We all have the same rights. Now don't be a b*tch. Just now, Black Dog said: He's got nothing, just like you. He's got something. It's why the stupid b*tch is under investigation. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Deluge said: We all have the same rights. Yes that was the point of AOC's webinar, glad you are on board with her sharing that information. Quote
Deluge Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Yes that was the point of AOC's webinar, glad you are on board with her sharing that information. No, that's not the point of AOC's webinar. The point of AOC's webinar is to advance illegal aliens. And also to put non-heterosexuals and non-whites ahead of whites, especially conservative, straight white males. Now don't be a dumbass and pay attention. Edited February 14 by Deluge Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 10 minutes ago, Black Dog said: LMAO, don't be retarded. The point is to create fear and intimidate political opponents regardless of whether they have cause. That's what fascists do. Oh yeah? How? Deploy smoke bombs? Dress up in disguises? Hide out on Turkish soil perhaps? Or maybe it was as it was reported in your own link: So you like your cherry picked quotes? I have those too, you know. Quote Blaser informed viewers recent ICE raids in the Empire State have taken place “early in the morning” and in “public places,” and have often involved unmarked ICE vehicles stopping cars as people drive to and from work. ... She also noted that ICE arrests have taken place during required check-ins with federal immigration authorities and – outside of New York City – during probation or parole appointments and when migrants are being transferred from police custody. https://nypost.com/2025/02/13/us-news/aoc-shares-tips-on-how-illegal-immigrants-can-evade-ice-do-not-open-your-door/ They were telling illegal immigrants how to avoid being caught. They did talk about rights, and that is fine. But when they tell criminals how to avoid being caught, that is material aid. That is a crime. 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Deluge Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 7 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: So you like your cherry picked quotes? I have those too, you know. They were telling illegal immigrants how to avoid being caught. They did talk about rights, and that is fine. But when they tell criminals how to avoid being caught, that is material aid. That is a crime. Woke Dog is part of the resistance. He really can't be expected to understand logic, reason, science and common sense. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 (edited) 13 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: They were telling illegal immigrants how to avoid being caught. They did talk about rights, and that is fine. But when they tell criminals how to avoid being caught, that is material aid. That is a crime. Advice is not material aid, dummy. 6 minutes ago, Deluge said: Woke Dog is part of the resistance. He really can't be expected to understand logic, reason, science and common sense. And yet i still know telling someone not to open the door to law enforcement unless they have a warrant isn't illegal, unlike you bootlickers. Edited February 14 by Black Dog Quote
Deluge Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: And yet i still know telling someone not to open the door to law enforcement unless hey have a warrant isn't illegal, unlike you bootlickers. Unless it's ICE and they have reason to believe you've been harboring violent criminal aliens. You'd best open the door, dumbass. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, Black Dog said: Advice is not material aid, dummy. And yet i still know telling someone not to open the door to law enforcement unless hey have a warrant isn't illegal, unlike you bootlickers. Ahem... Quote material support or resources (4) the term “material support or resources” has the same meaning given that term in section 2339A (including the definitions of “training” and “expert advice or assistance” in that section); Source 18 USC § 2339B(g)(4) https://www.law.cornell.edu/definitions/uscode.php?width=840&height=800&iframe=true&def_id=18-USC-1016054322-611479343&term_occur=999&term_src=title:18:part:I:chapter:113B:section:2339B Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
impartialobserver Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 political lip service... I would not get too worked up about this. Quote
Barquentine Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 52 minutes ago, Deluge said: The point of AOC's webinar is to advance illegal aliens. And also to put non-heterosexuals and non-whites ahead of whites, especially conservative, straight white males. Now don't be a dumbass and pay attention. Paranoid much? Quote
herbie Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 1 hour ago, Deluge said: And also to put non-heterosexuals and non-whites ahead of whites, especially conservative, straight white males. A mindset clearly inferior to that of any illegal alien's. Quote
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 (edited) 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Ahem... Can you tell me how the "18 U.S. Code § 2339B - Providing material support or resources to designated foreign terrorist organizations" applies here (hint: it does not). Edited February 14 by Black Dog Quote
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 2 hours ago, Deluge said: Unless it's ICE and they have reason to believe you've been harboring violent criminal aliens. You'd best open the door, dumbass. Lol no, see this is why people need to be told their rights because of dumb shitheads like you. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 1 minute ago, Black Dog said: Can you tell me how the "18 U.S. Code § 2339B - Providing material support or resources to designated foreign terrorist organizations" applies here (hint: it does not). Read closer. The definition is applied from the source. "Material Support" is universally defined. It doesn't matter if it is terrorist or not. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 1 minute ago, gatomontes99 said: Read closer. The definition is applied from the source. "Material Support" is universally defined. It doesn't matter if it is terrorist or not. No dummy, it's not "universally defined" it is a term specific to that statute, which only applies to designated terrorist organizations. So can you tell me what specific law prohibits giving "material support" in the form of advising people of their constitutional rights? Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 17 minutes ago, Black Dog said: No dummy, it's not "universally defined" it is a term specific to that statute, which only applies to designated terrorist organizations. So can you tell me what specific law prohibits giving "material support" in the form of advising people of their constitutional rights? Fine. I had to dig around for it, but here you go: Quote https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-prelim-title8-section1324&num=0&edition=prelim 1324. Bringing in and harboring certain aliens ... (iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation; By telling illegal aliens how to avoid ICE raids, they are in violation of 8 USC 1324(a)(iii) as is bolded above for you to review. This is providing material support to illegal aliens. As I said, as Tom Homan said and as the law says, what her office did was illegal. If she directed, assisted or provided the means to violate the law, she is also guilty. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 Just now, gatomontes99 said: Fine. I had to dig around for it, but here you go: Quote (iii) knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation; By telling illegal aliens how to avoid ICE raids, they are in violation of 8 USC 1324(a)(iii) as is bolded above for you to review. This is providing material support to illegal aliens. That law is about actually literally physically hiding people. Holding a webinar is not that. Quote As I said, as Tom Homan said and as the law says, what her office did was illegal. If she directed, assisted or provided the means to violate the law, she is also guilty. As I said: they got nothing on her, just watch. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted February 14 Author Report Posted February 14 3 minutes ago, Black Dog said: That law is about actually literally physically hiding people. Holding a webinar is not that. As I said: they got nothing on her, just watch. They are literally telling them how to hide. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Black Dog Posted February 14 Report Posted February 14 Just now, gatomontes99 said: They are literally telling them how to hide. Telling people to ask law enforcement to produce a warrant is not telling them how to hide. I honestly didn't expect this wave of fascists to be so goddamned dumb. Quote
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