CdnFox Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Donald Trump confirms tariffs coming Saturday, undecided on oil carve out welp, looks like we're at war. I hope our american friends here realize that this will probably have long term ramifications that they won't care for at all. And it'll impact the friendship between the two countries. Ahh well. We had a good 150 years Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) all Canadian attempts to strike back will only compound the harm to Canadians America will crush Canada without even noticing the only way for Canada to win, would be to drop all trade barriers like Milton Friedman's Hong Kong but that's not going to happen in socialist nanny state Canada Canada's vastly interventionist centrally planning government will be its undoing the best option for Canadians would be to stage a right wing counterrevolution to overthrow their own corrupt & incompetent Communist ruling class beat the Americans at their own game ; it's right there, just for the taking Edited January 31 by Dougie93 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 32 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: all Canadian attempts to strike back will only compound the harm to Canadians And you're not one so not your problem Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 4 minutes ago, CdnFox said: And you're not one so not your problem indeed, I'll simply take advantage of the opportunity to buy low in Canada, then leverage the socialist bailouts one can still profit from Canada shooting itself in the head Quote
godzilla Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 i'm not hopeful that we have a new leader who will think outside the box. immediately engage to form economic alliances with... whoever. join the EU? BRICS? drop out of NATO. develop our own nuclear deterrent. cut off the US from all energy imports. nataionalize oil and gas (ie. kick out US ownership). plow billions into pipelines to the coasts and build new refineries to make gas cheap like rice is in China. essentially, go where the US definitely will flip out about. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 2 minutes ago, godzilla said: i'm not hopeful that we have a new leader who will think outside the box. immediately engage to form economic alliances with... whoever. join the EU? BRICS? drop out of NATO. develop our own nuclear deterrent. cut off the US from all energy imports. nataionalize oil and gas (ie. kick out US ownership). plow billions into pipelines to the coasts and build new refineries to make gas cheap like rice is in China. essentially, go where the US definitely will flip out about. yeah right, flail around desperately for totally unrealistic solutions why don't you Canada making itself into Venezuela; great plan meanwhile, all the wealthy Canadians will simply take the bailout money from the taxpayer that's how the game is played in Canada : classic case of socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor Quote
godzilla Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 25 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: yeah right, flail around desperately for totally unrealistic solutions why don't you Canada making itself into Venezuela; great plan meanwhile, all the wealthy Canadians will simply take the bailout money from the taxpayer that's how the game is played in Canada : classic case of socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor well you're absolutely right about any bailout. we do the same as the US that way. but its not unrealistic for us to pivot and expand our trading partners. we had a trading deal with the US and now the US is dropping out. do you think Canada becoming a 51st state is realistic? of course not. but its worth thinking outside the box in the same way. what i will say about Venezuela is... gas is almost free! Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 48 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: indeed, I'll simply take advantage of the opportunity to buy low in Canada, then leverage the socialist bailouts one can still profit from Canada shooting itself in the head Well there you go Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, godzilla said: well you're absolutely right about any bailout. we do the same as the US that way. but its not unrealistic for us to pivot and expand our trading partners. we had a trading deal with the US and now the US is dropping out. do you think Canada becoming a 51st state is realistic? of course not. but its worth thinking outside the box in the same way. what i will say about Venezuela is... gas is almost free! we are talking about Canada here it's not a dynamic society everyone will just lump it and look to the government to bail them out pandemic levels of government support & interest rates leverage accordingly Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 43 minutes ago, godzilla said: i'm not hopeful that we have a new leader who will think outside the box. immediately engage to form economic alliances with... whoever. join the EU? BRICS? drop out of NATO. develop our own nuclear deterrent. cut off the US from all energy imports. nataionalize oil and gas (ie. kick out US ownership). plow billions into pipelines to the coasts and build new refineries to make gas cheap like rice is in China. essentially, go where the US definitely will flip out about. Well some of those things are practical and will likely happen. Truth be told this could be a blessing in disguise. It will expose some of our weaknesses to those who have been trying to cut down on some of our Industries. The new government would have every right to force through pipelines to minimize our exposure to America. There could be a strong push for the removal of all interprovincial trade barriers. People will realize we're exposed more than they thought and we need to stop thinking of the US as our friends. Harper had begun expanding our trade deals with other nations substantially. Unfortunately Trudeau has wiped out pretty much all of that but we can start building again. Will never be able to eliminate the united states entirely but we can certainly significantly reduce our dependence. It could wind up translating into the kick in the butt that we need 8 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: we are talking about Canada here it's not a dynamic society everyone will just lump it and look to the government to bail them out pandemic levels of government support & interest rates leverage accordingly How would you know? You're just a scumbag he tries to trade on stolen valor. Canadians will worry about Canadians Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
NAME REMOVED Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 53 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: yeah right, flail around desperately for totally unrealistic solutions why don't you Canada making itself into Venezuela; great plan meanwhile, all the wealthy Canadians will simply take the bailout money from the taxpayer that's how the game is played in Canada : classic case of socialism for the rich, capitalism for the poor Wonderful to see you sticking up for your country, especially when an unhinged leader puts tariffs on us for no legitimate reason. 2 Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 Time to hit the states with both barrels. If Trump carves out oil we slap a punishing export tariff on it. LCBO is one the largest purchasers of booze in the entire world, get the province ls to band together and take all US booze off the shelf in every province. Make the Americans squeal Funny how Republicans were screaming about inflation under Biden and now that inflation camr back to normal levels under Biden, Republican/ want to do the most inflationary thing imaginable and suddenly inflation isn’t important to them. Nothing matters except indulging the ignorant whims of Dictator On Day One 3 Quote
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: all Canadian attempts to strike back will only compound the harm to Canadians America will crush Canada without even noticing the only way for Canada to win, would be to drop all trade barriers like Milton Friedman's Hong Kong but that's not going to happen in socialist nanny state Canada Canada's vastly interventionist centrally planning government will be its undoing the best option for Canadians would be to stage a right wing counterrevolution to overthrow their own corrupt & incompetent Communist ruling class beat the Americans at their own game ; it's right there, just for the taking Thanks for proving you have no idea what "Communist" means. 1 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Time to hit the states with both barrels. If Trump carves out oil we slap a punishing export tariff on it. LCBO is one the largest purchasers of booze in the entire world, get the province ls to band together and take all US booze off the shelf in every province. Make the Americans squeal Funny how Republicans were screaming about inflation under Biden and now that inflation camr back to normal levels under Biden, Republican/ want to do the most inflationary thing imaginable and suddenly inflation isn’t important to them. Nothing matters except indulging the ignorant whims of Dictator On Day One the only people you will be punishing is Canadians only 2% of American GDP is exports to Canada export tariffs on oil will just get more Canadians laid off Quote
BeaverFever Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: the only people you will be punishing is Canadians only 2% of American GDP is exports to Canada export tariffs on oil will just get more Canadians laid off Doesn’t matter what % of GDP it is. Many states and industries will be hit hard and millions of people will be hit hard at the pump. Many of those people are in swing states. They will make the phones ring of the hook in Washington Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 (edited) 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: You're just a scumbag he tries to trade on stolen valor. Canadians will worry about Canadians I'm not worrying about Canadians they are gung-ho for.a trade war, let them get a taste I know how Canadians fear, loathe & resent America I know they can't resist the bait this is what Canadians dream of, a chance to stand up to those dastardly Yanks they'll be picking up their economic teeth with economic broken fingers but whatever, knock yourselves out 4 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Doesn’t matter what % of GDP it is. Many states and industries will be hit hard and millions of people will be hit hard at the pump. Many of those people are in swing states. They will make the phones ring of the hook in Washington this is the Canadian fantasy of course, but the reality of trade war is just going to be a brutal slog for Canada the Americans will just subsidize their side in the war they can hold out much longer than Canada can Edited January 31 by Dougie93 Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 56 minutes ago, robosmith said: Thanks for proving you have no idea what "Communist" means. Canadians are wannabe Communists America prevents Canada from going where Canadians want to go but if they could get away with it, Canada would be Cuba North 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Time to hit the states with both barrels. If Trump carves out oil we slap a punishing export tariff on it. LCBO is one the largest purchasers of booze in the entire world, get the province ls to band together and take all US booze off the shelf in every province. Make the Americans squeal Funny how Republicans were screaming about inflation under Biden and now that inflation camr back to normal levels under Biden, Republican/ want to do the most inflationary thing imaginable and suddenly inflation isn’t important to them. Nothing matters except indulging the ignorant whims of Dictator On Day One Yeah, much as I hate to say it the simple fact the matter is there's only one way to deal with a bully. It's going to cause Canada a lot of pain and that's unfortunate. We're not in good shape right now after 10 years of liberals and this is the last thing we needed. But there's no getting around it. Caving to him will just make sure that he brings the same thing out every 5 minutes whenever he wants something and we can't have that 2 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 12 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Canadians are wannabe Communists America prevents Canada from going where Canadians want to go but if they could get away with it, Canada would be Cuba North Why would we care about Canadian Communists, eh? LMAO Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, godzilla said: do you think Canada becoming a 51st state is realistic? Canadians misunderstood what Trump was saying you can read the plan that Trump is following the GOP is going to force Canadian companies to relocate to America it has already started, before the war has even begun, Canadian companies are in the process of relocating they are keeping their head offices in Canada, moving their production facilities to the USA quietly so far, but once this gets going, that will turn into a flood of Canadian companies abandoning Canada because businesses are not actually patriotic, they will go where they need to all Trump was saying is ; if you don't like it, Canada, you can apply to be the 51st State Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 5 minutes ago, robosmith said: Why would we care about Canadian Communists, eh? LMAO Canadian academia has been churning out lunatic Marxists for years now they pretty much run every institution in Canada, particularly public sector and like all Communists, they've crippled the economy and left Canada on its knees it was basically fait accompli, and in fact Canadians voted for it now the Republicans have absolutely no reason to care about Canada, so they've come to strip mine it Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Time to hit the states with both barrels. If Trump carves out oil we slap a punishing export tariff on it. you do realize that the oil for Canadians does not come from Alberta you actually get your oil from Texas there is no pipeline from Alberta to the east the pipeline which feeds the east comes up from the USA through Ontario so an oil war is going to blow up in your face very quickly Quote
robosmith Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: Canadian academia has been churning out lunatic Marxists for years now they pretty much run every institution in Canada, particularly public sector and like all Communists, they've crippled the economy and left Canada on its knees it was basically fait accompli, and in fact Canadians voted for it now the Republicans have absolutely no reason to care about Canada, so they've come to strip mine it Conquer and plunder is what FASCISTS DO. Quote
Dougie93 Posted January 31 Report Posted January 31 1 minute ago, robosmith said: Conquer and plunder is what FASCISTS DO. not necessarily take for example the greatest Fascist of them all ; Francisco Franco once he had consolidated power in Spain first he completely avoids the Second World War, enraging Hitler by refusing to go on a crusade then Franco courts America, becoming America's stalwart ally in the Cold War by the 1970s Fascist Spain had the richest economy in Europe, booming when everybody else was in crisis then he dies in his sleep, hero to his people, at 82 years of age Quote
CdnFox Posted January 31 Author Report Posted January 31 2 hours ago, Dougie93 said: I'm not worrying about Canadians You're literally spending hours posting in this thread all about canadians, you're either deeply concerned or have compulsive obsessive disorder. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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