August1991 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 Both were outsiders. Both had lost - but comeback. Both were negotiators. ==== They played their game very differently. Trump's 2025 Inauguration speech was a campaign speech. Nixon named Rogers - then did everything with Kissinger. Quote
August1991 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 Nixon was ambitious Trump is competitive. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 You forgot that they were both Nazis! Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
robosmith Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 2 hours ago, August1991 said: Both were outsiders. Both had lost - but comeback. Both were negotiators. ==== They played their game very differently. Trump's 2025 Inauguration speech was a campaign speech. Nixon named Rogers - then did everything with Kissinger. Nixon was a former VP. How is that an outsider? Quote
August1991 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 Make no mistake, Trump and Nixon were outsiders. Quote
August1991 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: You forgot that they were both Nazis! Reagan. Bush (Snr and Jnr) were Hitler Nazi. Quote
August1991 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 (edited) Northern Leftst/Prgressive/Jewisk Amwicans still today describe this as Nixon's move. LBJ lost the racist south. Edited January 21 by August1991 Quote
robosmith Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 1 hour ago, August1991 said: Make no mistake, Trump and Nixon were outsiders. ^NO answer to the question HOW. Quote
August1991 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 After LBJ and the federal Civil Rights Act of 1964, the only Democrat to win was Carter and Clinton. As a Canadian, Obama was a lost opportunity. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 In Jan 1969 was in the midst of the Cold War and America's amblvalence: https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/documents/inaugural-address-1 Quote
Deluge Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 8 hours ago, August1991 said: Northern Leftst/Prgressive/Jewisk Amwicans still today describe this as Nixon's move. LBJ lost the racist south. The racists are all those slum lords in the blue inner cities. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 8 hours ago, August1991 said: Reagan. Bush (Snr and Jnr) were Hitler Nazi. They are all Nazis! You are a Nazi! I am a Nazi! He is a Nazi! She is a Nazi! Everyone is a Nazi! 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
godzilla Posted January 22 Report Posted January 22 they were both felons. Nixon got pardoned before he could be charged. law and order! Quote
August1991 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 On 1/21/2025 at 7:36 AM, Deluge said: The racists are all those slum lords in the blue inner cities. Strongly disagree. Quote
August1991 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 7 hours ago, godzilla said: they were both felons. Nixon got pardoned before he could be charged. law and order! Why does this power of pardon exist? Quote
August1991 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 7 hours ago, godzilla said: they were both felons. Nixon got pardoned before he could be charged. law and order! IMHO, Nixon did nothing wrong except, as he said, he gave them a sword. Nixon f*ed up -at the thing he was supposed to be good at . Quote
robosmith Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 56 minutes ago, August1991 said: IMHO, Nixon did nothing wrong except, as he said, he gave them a sword. Nixon f*ed up -at the thing he was supposed to be good at . So you believe there's nothing wrong with the POTUS committing crimes like stealing confidential data from political opponents and obstructing justice? That very much gives a POTUS a very unfair advantage over any challenger. AKA using the power of his office for campaign purposes to stay in power. Quote
August1991 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 46 minutes ago, robosmith said: So you believe there's nothing wrong with the POTUS committing crimes like stealing confidential data from political opponents and obstructing justice? That very much gives a POTUS a very unfair advantage over any challenger. AKA using the power of his office for campaign purposes to stay in power. In Summer 2016, Barack Obama ordered the FBI to listen to telephone conversations of an opposing candidate. In Summer 1972, Richard Nixon asked the CIA to stop an FBI investigation of his campaign's amateur attempt to listen to an opposing candidate. I see a difference. Quote
August1991 Posted January 23 Author Report Posted January 23 Let me get back to the point of my OP. When Nixon got elected in 1968, he had been in the White House, lost an election. He knew the game. Like Trump in 2024. Quote
Deluge Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) 11 hours ago, August1991 said: Strongly disagree. You're a democrat who projects his flaws onto political opponents. Of course you disagree. The truth is, that democrats are in the business of poverty and failure - you are modern day slavers, and your oppression of blacks is the foundation. Edited January 23 by Deluge Quote
robosmith Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 (edited) 15 hours ago, August1991 said: In Summer 2016, Barack Obama ordered the FBI to listen to telephone conversations of an opposing candidate. In Summer 1972, Richard Nixon asked the CIA to stop an FBI investigation of his campaign's amateur attempt to listen to an opposing candidate. I see a difference. I see you've posted NO EVIDENCE for either of ^these. Who was the "opposing candidate" (Trump?) and who was he talking to? Was the FBI ordered to report on the content? I doubt that very much. It seems the reason you have NO EVIDENCE, since the allegations were Trump LIES. Justice Department: No evidence Obama wiretapped ... Politico https://www.politico.com › story › 2017/09/02 › obama... Sep 2, 2017 — There is no evidence to support President Donald Trump's claim that President Barack Obama ordered the wiretapping of Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential ... U.S. Justice Department affirms no evidence Obama ... Reuters https://www.reuters.com › article › world › us-justice-d... Sep 2, 2017 — ... that his predecessor, Barack Obama, had ordered a wiretap of Trump Tower during the 2016 presidential campaign. Certainly the Nixon incident was obstruction. Edited January 23 by robosmith Quote
Hodad Posted January 23 Report Posted January 23 14 hours ago, August1991 said: In Summer 2016, Barack Obama ordered the FBI to listen to telephone conversations of an opposing candidate. In Summer 1972, Richard Nixon asked the CIA to stop an FBI investigation of his campaign's amateur attempt to listen to an opposing candidate. I see a difference. A difference? You mean that the first one is pure fiction? Indeed, that is different. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted January 25 Author Report Posted January 25 On 1/23/2025 at 11:13 AM, Deluge said: You're a democrat ... Democrat? Big D or small d. I am a Canadian citizen. Quote
Deluge Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 11 hours ago, August1991 said: Democrat? Big D or small d. I am a Canadian citizen. Small d. Today's democrat is not worthy of capitalization. I'm an American citizen. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 25 Report Posted January 25 On 1/20/2025 at 10:57 PM, August1991 said: Make no mistake, Trump and Nixon were outsiders. This is just a silly idea. Nixon was not an "outsider". Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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