Poilievre Is The Only Option

[betsy]

The only one with topnotch leadership skills to lead us, especially through this dark times, is Pierre Poilievre.

 

First of all, Canada wouldn't be in such a mess without Trudeau's enablers in Chrystia Freeland, Jagmeet Singh and Yves Blanchet.

They've all done their part in propping up Trudeau! All those who had stood by Trudeau, had propped him up and had caused so much damage to Canada.  If Carney was an adviser to Trudeau - then, he's one of them too!

 

They all have to OWN that!

 

 

Why do I say Poilievre's the only option as Prime Minister?

 

He's got the INITIATIVE that the other opposition leaders don't have.

 

 

 

Some  anti-Poilievre are ciriticizing him for writing the letter to the Gov Gen, urging her to use her authority to recall Parliament.

I say, There's nothing for Poilievre to lose in trying.   RIGHT?

 

 

 

Given the gravity of our situation.......................at least, give him points for trying to do something!

Even if it's just for trying!



Obviously.......


He is a fighter!

He didn't just say, "Meh. I can't do that. The GOV-GEN won't go for it."
 

 

Everyone is calling this tariff, a 5-alarm fire.
Lol, given that there will be Carbon Tax coming too...................................you could really say, it's existential threat for many Canadians!

Lol - if your house is gonna burn down, wouldn't you try anything and everything to save it?
 

 

 

If Poilievre thinks the country is in a dire situation - to promptly act on it, and try every avenue he possibly can,  to get us an early election.......................

...................just shows his STRONG leadership!


He doesn't quit or give up easily!

 

Imho - that's the kind of leader we need.............................. especially at a time like this!

 

 

Edited December 21, 2024 by betsy

[betsy]

Some anti-Poilievre accused him of going over the Prime Minister's head, when he wrote to the Gov gen.

 

Hello?   Anything active in that skull?

 

Why wouldn't he?

Why shouldn't he?

 

Where's Trudeau amid all these snafu?

 

Hey - if our supposed PM is inactive, and stiff-frozen in the basement - someone has to take the reins and lead, you know.

 

 

That's what I mean by initiative! 

Poilievre seems to have the natural talent to lead!

 

Edited December 21, 2024 by betsy

[betsy]

Poilievre knows how to get things done!

He knows how to....................................... "speak their language."



He's a go-getter.................................just like them!    Of course, I'm thinking of Trump and Elon Musk.

 

 

Elon Musk Grants Pierre Poilievre’s Wish, Labels CBC As ‘Government-Funded Media’

 

The move comes after Twitter tagged NPR, PBS, and BBC with the same label, and less than a week after Conservative Party leader Pierre Poilievre wrote to Twitter owner Elon Musk,
asking to “accurately label CBC as ‘government-funded media.’”

 

https://thedeepdive.ca/elon-musk-grants-pierre-poilievres-wish-labels-cbc-as-government-funded-media/

Edited December 21, 2024 by betsy

[betsy]

Since Canada's biggest threat right now is Trump's tariff......

 

 

A strong possibility....................


Poilievre might already have Elon Musk on his side to bat for him, when he goes negotiating with Trump.

 

 

 

Why do I say that?

Because, he's caught the attention - and admiration - of Elon Musk!

 

 

 

 

Poilievre’s polite responses while eating an apple has received attention across the globe.

The video also received coverage on Fox News and Britain’s Daily Mail, and has millions of views on social media site X.


“Guess he like them apples,” Elon Musk wrote in response to the video. “Never heard of him before, but this interview is (fire emojis),” he added in another comment.

 

https://torontosun.com/news/national/video-of-apple-munching-poilievre-challenging-reporters-questions-goes-viral

 

 

 

 

The fire emoji is a flame that is mostly yellow with a little red on the top. It is used to signify that something is cool, awesome, exciting, or more colloquially, “on fire.”

 

https://www.dictionary.com/e/emoji/fire-emoji/

 

 

 

Let's not discount the fact that Musk also has Canadian citizenship.

Edited December 21, 2024 by betsy

[eyeball]

5 minutes ago, betsy said:

The only one with topnotch leadership skills to lead us, especially through this dark times, is Pierre Poilievre.

From my perspective it's towards darker times but yeah he'll probably be good at it.

7 minutes ago, betsy said:

Everyone is calling this tariff, a 5-alarm fire.
Lol, given that there will be Carbon Tax coming too...................................you could really say, it's existential threat for many Canadians!

Except the tariff is a 25-alarm fire compared to the Carbon Tax.

8 minutes ago, betsy said:

Lol - if your house is gonna burn down, wouldn't you try anything and everything to save it

Sure, if I was PP I'd focus on eliminating inter-provincial trade barriers and the 15% extra cost they pile onto Canadians.

 

[betsy]

Poilivre gave an amazing well-balanced response  to Trump!

Poilievre is a diplomatic, no-nonsense Patriot.
Surely, Trump can recognize, and respect that.
 

 

 

timer - 20:25

 

.....I've already said Canada will never be the 51st state
we are a proud people with a heroic past and a brilliant future, we are the best friend in the world to the United States which is the greatest military and economic superpower the world has ever seen.
the president has raised some concerns about the border and Military I will rebuild our border and our military to put those concerns to rest.
our economy we will bring home but I will also defend production to this country with uh a with massive tax relief and fast speeding up permits so that we are less Reliant and more strengthened against these kinds of risks
and all of that will be good for Canadians be good for Americans what we really need though
president Trump has made it clear he wants to put America First, well all the more to him. I'm going to put Canada first......

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-ezCClk9Y&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fdebatepolitics.com%2F

 

Edited December 21, 2024 by betsy

[betsy]

And.......

 

 

Yup. A relentless "ankle-biter," can be a very good thing.
Especially when you know where, and how to bite!


Poilievre, is a master!

 

He can wear down an opposition................................just as a persistent teener can wear down his parents! 😁

[betsy]

9 minutes ago, eyeball said:

 

Except the tariff is a 25-alarm fire compared to the Carbon Tax.

 

 

 

 

There's no comparison!

 

We'll get BOTH -if Trump doesn't back off and if Poilievre doesn't become PM!!

Edited December 21, 2024 by betsy

[eyeball]

10 minutes ago, betsy said:

There's no comparison!

There's no comparing a 25% cost to a 5% cost?

I thought conservatives were supposed to be smarter when it came to money.

[betsy]

26 minutes ago, eyeball said:

There's no comparing a 25% cost to a 5% cost? 

I thought conservatives were supposed to be smarter when it came to money.

 

 

I said, there's no comparison to be made since we're getting both.  Unless Trump backs off, we'll get hit by the 25% tariff, and we're also going to get the Carbon Tax on April.

 

It's not like it's a choice between the two.

 

 

I don't know what you're on about.

Will you explain your point.

 

 

Or.....liberals are really poor at logic? 😁

Edited December 21, 2024 by betsy

[eyeball]

4 hours ago, betsy said:

I don't know what you're on about.

Will you explain your point.

The carbon tax is mice-nuts. Everyone knows it will be gone the moment he's elected. What's the point about him belabouring the obvious compared to Trump's declaration of a trade war against us?

 

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, betsy said:

I (PP) will also defend production to this country with uh a with massive tax relief.

By knocking out a 5% tax of which 90% is returned to taxpayers?

The only thing that's massive about this is how underwhelming it is.

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

The carbon tax is mice-nuts. Everyone knows it will be gone the moment he's elected. What's the point about him belabouring the obvious compared to Trump's declaration of a trade war against us?

 

The carbon tax is a very serious problem with our competitiveness and it does more than just the tax, it drives business away from the country. Right now and for the last year or two business investment in Canada has been leaving Canada faster than it's been coming and that is never happened before. The carbon tax plays a role on such thing so it's costing damage goes Way Beyond the simple extra money you pay at the pump. And we've been over this before with reports in the math.

And his point was that the fact that it will be gone is one of the reasons that Poilievre is a good choice.

I realized that having been a strong proponent of such things in the past you now don't want to see it go and are a little bitter about talking about it. But it's worth talking about. I know a lot of liberals are trying to pretend that they never ever supported it ever now that it's clear that it's useless. But that's not the truth either.

As to the tariffs I don't think they're real thing. They're a threat. That's how trump negotiates he always negotiates by threat. As he was quoted as saying once the other guy only needs to believe there's a 5% chance I'll actually do it in order for me to win. If there are tariffs they will be extremely short lived. I bet they're gone before the GST is

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

By knocking out a 5% tax of which 90% is returned to taxpayers?

The only thing that's massive about this is how underwhelming it is.

 

It's actually quite massive. As we've discussed this is also a cost to businesses and businesses past that on to the consumer. And it's not an end user tax which means it keeps getting added again and again and again up the supply chain.

The cost of the carbon tax is vastly higher than the nickels and dimes per litre you pay per liter at the pump

[Moonlight Graham]

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Except the tariff is a 25-alarm fire compared to the Carbon Tax.

If Trump is serious with the tariffs and they blow up in his face this could be the end of the Trump nutters winning elections in the US.

The nutters on the right and left need to go away.  I think we need moderate or center-right and center-left populism right now.  Right now we're turning into the light version of the 1920's/30's when fascism and communism became attractive to many in desperate times.  Far-left and far-right populism has already been proven a bad thing.  Prioritize the people's interests without going bonkers.

7 hours ago, eyeball said:

Sure, if I was PP I'd focus on eliminating inter-provincial trade barriers and the 15% extra cost they pile onto Canadians.

Free trade?  Eliminating taxes?  You're a neoliberal conservative!  Jk.

[eyeball]

30 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

And it's not an end user tax which means it keeps getting added again and again and again up the supply chain.

And, as its pointed out again and again and again, 90% of the tax is returned to taxpayers. The end result on the economy being utter nice nuts in comparison to the effect of tariffs.

Never mind the fact tariffs don't accomplish a single benefit for anyone and carbon pricing benefits everyone. Emissions are going down. I mean fine, if people simply don't give a shit about climate change period then say that's why the tax is being killed. Everything else is just silly catastrophizing made even sillier by imagining or implying it'll be any sort of panacea to tariffs.

Speaking of which, why is no one, especially Poilievre, talking about reducing the expense of internal trade barriers that increase costs to hardworking overcharged Canadian by as much as 15%?

You want to see a policy move that would really attract investment to Canada - I suggest free trade. Bring that home. 

 

[eyeball]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Speaking of which, why is no one, especially Poilievre, talking about reducing the expense of internal trade barriers that increase costs to hardworking overcharged Canadian by as much as 15%?

This should be a front and center solution to Trump's tarrifs that would make Trump look like a fùcking chump and maybe humiliate genuine American conservatives who know why into standing up to him as well.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

And, as its pointed out again and again and again, 90% of the tax is returned to taxpayers. 

 

Nope. Not even close. And in fact even the budget officers have had to admit that some of those numbers aren't available.

And it doesn't account for the money built into the markups that I mentioned. I've explained this very simply and easily before and showing you examples and content and cites which backs that up.   If person a has to charge more to cover the  tax to person b so that person b can build something, then person b will build that into his pricing and mark it up when he sells it to person c for distribution, who will mark it up and sell it to the store who marks it up and sells it to the customer and NONE of that is returned. Only 90 percent of what the customer paid, but not the huge increase in price that he had to pay on top of the actual tax. 

And it doesn't include the GST you pay on that tax. 

  etc etc. 

This is been done to death and there's absolutely no doubt about it. When everything is taken into account the cost of the consumer is significant, and businesses are leaving as a result. As I have noted many times for the first time in Canadian history more business is leaving Canada than coming to it. High operating taxes like this, combined with high business taxes and so on have made the environment toxic for business investment and it is going away

The first step to fixing prices and restoring business confidence is scrapping the carbon tax which has done not a single thing for the environment.

You guys had 10 years of unfettered freedom to do something about the environment and you have utterly blown it and on top of it all you've hurt Canada in the meantime. So that's going to come to a screeching halt.

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The CSIS report on foreign interference is coming out on January 31. This is why Singh has not brought down the Government, since insiders all point to Poilievre accepting illegal funds from India, in the 2022 Conservative leadership convention. 

Once the report confirms that Poilievre has been compromised by foreign interference,the popularity of the Conservatives will take a hit. Probably not enough to prevent the Conservatives from winning the election, but this is the entire reason for Singh not bringing the Government down, since he knows the NDP will be in a more favourable position to win seats, after the report is made public. 

https://foreigninterferencecommission.ca/fileadmin/foreign_interference_commission/Documents/Exhibits_and_Presentations/Exhibits/TSC0000013.pdf

Edited December 22, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said:

The CSIS report on foreign interference is coming out on January 31. This is why Singh has not brought down the Government, since insiders all point to Poilievre accepting illegal funds from India, in the 2022 Conservative leadership convention. 

Easily one of your more stupid comments. Which in and of itself is a mind meltingly impressive feat

If that were the case he would be pressuring Trudeau to release the information. As it is he said now that he would bring down the government, and the report will come out either way

Your lies are getting more and more desperate. You don't think that Justin should be removed even though there is actually clear interference from the Chinese benefiting him, but you think that believer should be removed because it might possibly be some species of connection which clearly didn't influence the results and even Patrick Brown has said that.

Lefties are just bad people all too often. It's no wonder this country is in trouble                                           

[NAME REMOVED]

Just now, CdnFox said:

Easily one of your more stupid comments. Which in and of itself is a mind meltingly impressive feat

If that were the case he would be pressuring Trudeau to release the information. As it is he said now that he would bring down the government, and the report will come out either way

Your lies are getting more and more desperate. You don't think that Justin should be removed even though there is actually clear interference from the Chinese benefiting him, but you think that believer should be removed because it might possibly be some species of connection which clearly didn't influence the results and even Patrick Brown has said that.

Lefties are just bad people all too often. It's no wonder this country is in trouble                                           

It's cute that you are trying to impress your Russian handlers, by debating with real Canadian citizens.

[CdnFox]

10 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It's cute that you are trying to impress your Russian handlers, by debating with real Canadian citizens.

Ahhh i forgot, it's the weekend so it's drinkie night for you.  Sigh.  You're the one praising russian operatives on this thread kiddo, so there you go. 

[NAME REMOVED]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I am paid off generously by my Russian comrades.

With the impeding collapse of the Russian economy, aren't you worried that your handlers will suffer financial losses?

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-economy-stagnation-labor-inflation-growth-defense-spending-crisis-putin-2024-12

Edited December 22, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

16 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

With the impeding collapse of the Russian economy, aren't you worried that your handlers will suffer financial losses?

https://www.businessinsider.com/russia-economy-stagnation-labor-inflation-growth-defense-spending-crisis-putin-2024-12

LOL always the same    Drink way too much - followed by nyquil shooter.  Check! Accuse fox of being a russian - check!  Get mad when he makes me look stupid for it and post fake quotes and argue with that despite the fact it makes me look like a biatch  Check check and check  

 

[betsy]

8 hours ago, eyeball said:

By knocking out a 5% tax of which 90% is returned to taxpayers?

The only thing that's massive about this is how underwhelming it is.

 

 

 

Irrelevant.

Create your own thread for it!

 

This topic is on Poilievre - why he's the only option!

[Politics1990]

lol he is def not the option he will sell us out to corporate   the first chance he gets he is a snakeoilsalesman.   the only hope at this point is the liberal nominate a leader not super close to trudeau and limit the damages.