They Lied, Americans Died

[gatomontes99]

 

This is more than just a bad policy. This is criminal neglect that led to the deaths of thousands of Americans. Next year, the House should impeach Joe Biden AND Kamala Harris and convict them in the Senate, thus keeping both of them out of politics for life and sending a message to the libs that we will not tolerate this any more.

You know what, throw in Mayorkas.

[Deluge]

6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

 

This is more than just a bad policy. This is criminal neglect that led to the deaths of thousands of Americans. Next year, the House should impeach Joe Biden AND Kamala Harris and convict them in the Senate, thus keeping both of them out of politics for life and sending a message to the libs that we will not tolerate this any more.

You know what, throw in Mayorkas.

I'm not surprised. 

And this goes beyond negligence; those a$$holes WANTED to flood this country with illegal aliens. The reasons could be many, but it's mostly out of hatred for the country's white ancestry. 

[Fluffypants]

22 hours ago, Deluge said:

I'm not surprised. 

And this goes beyond negligence; those a$$holes WANTED to flood this country with illegal aliens. The reasons could be many, but it's mostly out of hatred for the country's white ancestry. 

Of course they did it is the only way to replace all those people fleeing blue cities so they don't lose representatives. If the census stopped counting illegals they would be whistling a different tune.

[BeaverFever]

Fake news. Heitke didn’t say anyone died or that anyone was actually confirmed to be a terrorist.  Just more of your republican fake news propaganda that you gullible suckers eat up.  So the only lie is from you and Kirk
 

 “They lied Americans died” is basically the story of Bush’s fraudulent Iraq invasion. Thousands of US casualties. Hundreds of thousands or Iraqi casualties. Billions of taxpayer dollars, creation of ISIS, worldwide terrorist attacks, etc. 

 

Its also the story of Reagan and Republicans funding the Taliban and Al Qaeda because they thought it was a clever way to kept the Soviets out of Afghanistan and the Middle East 

It s also the story of Reagan and Bush 1 creating the US crack cocaine epidemic and drug cartels in Latin and South America when they thought it would be really smurrt to flood their own country with cocaine and use the drug money to arm their favourite right wing death squads and dictators. 

Edited December 12, 2024 by BeaverFever

[gatomontes99]

37 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Fake news. Heitke didn’t say anyone died or that anyone was actually confirmed to be a terrorist.  Just more of your republican fake news propaganda that you gullible suckers eat up.  So the only lie is from you and Kirk
 

 “They lied Americans died” is basically the story of Bush’s fraudulent Iraq invasion. Thousands of US casualties. Hundreds of thousands or Iraqi casualties. Billions of taxpayer dollars, creation of ISIS, worldwide terrorist attacks, etc. 

 

Its also the story of Reagan and Republicans funding the Taliban and Al Qaeda because they thought it was a clever way to kept the Soviets out of Afghanistan and the Middle East 

It s also the story of Reagan and Bush 1 creating the US crack cocaine epidemic and drug cartels in Latin and South America when they thought it would be really smurrt to flood their own country with cocaine and use the drug money to arm their favourite right wing death squads and dictators. 

What it is is the SWORN testimony of an CBP official. He say the WH told him he COULD NOT tell the truth.

[BeaverFever]

On 12/11/2024 at 9:07 PM, gatomontes99 said:

What it is is the SWORN testimony of an CBP official. He say the WH told him he COULD NOT tell the truth.

What else is new in Washington. Republicans don’t ever tell the truth either. A bunch of them went to jail for refusing to tell the truth and Trump is appointing some of those jailbirds to his admission . 
 

You and the lying propagandists you follow claimed that there is a coverup of terrorists entering the country:  LIE

You said Americans died  ANOTHER LIE  

 

[gatomontes99]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

What else is new in Washington. Republicans don’t ever tell the truth either. A bunch of them went to jail for refusing to tell the truth and Trump is appointing some of those jailbirds to his admission . 
 

You and the lying propagandists you follow claimed that there is a coverup of terrorists entering the country:  LIE

You said Americans died  ANOTHER LIE  

 

In 2020, 2021 and 2022 there were a combined 200,000 deaths from fentanyl that mostly crossed the southern border. Your white house covered up the facts of the border crisis.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/895945/fentanyl-overdose-deaths-us/

And they did cover up the number of terrorists entering the US, the border chief testified to that and I bet you he had documentation to back that up.

[BeaverFever]

15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

In 2020, 2021 and 2022 there were a combined 200,000 deaths from fentanyl that mostly crossed the southern border. Your white house covered up the facts of the border crisis.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/895945/fentanyl-overdose-deaths-us/

And they did cover up the number of terrorists entering the US, the border chief testified to that and I bet you he had documentation to back that up.

Fentanyl deaths have nothing to do with the subject of this thread or the lie-tweet that started this amd the white house didn’t cover up anything about fentanyl 

 

How about all the crack cocaine deaths after Reagan knowingly and intentionally flooded USA with cocaine to fund his right wing death squads and dictators in central and south America?  The invention of crack cocaine was a direct result the drug epidemic he created. The dug cartels were just small time third world street thugs before Reagan’s dumb ass idea turned them into the richest men in the world whose global enterprises now include fentanyl. 

[User]

12 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

How about all the crack cocaine deaths after Reagan knowingly and intentionally flooded USA with cocaine to fund his right wing death squads and dictators in central and south America?  The invention of crack cocaine was a direct result the drug epidemic he created. The dug cartels were just small time third world street thugs before Reagan’s dumb ass idea turned them into the richest men in the world whose global enterprises now include fentanyl. 

Holy crap man. You have no place to ever sit on this forum and talk about people lying ever again. You here peddling some of the most conspiratorial BS now. 

 

[BeaverFever]

59 minutes ago, User said:

Holy crap man. You have no place to ever sit on this forum and talk about people lying ever again. You here peddling some of the most conspiratorial BS now. 

 

Sorry the Iran Contra scandal is a fact of history.   Dozens of Reagan officials were investigated some were convicted, Bush Sr had to pardon many administration officials, some of them preemptively pardoned to shut down the investigations. There were multiple incidents of planes operated by US government contractors crashing or being seized by Latin American authorities and found to be full of cocaine.
 

Cocaine has been around for a time, but it didn’t massively flood  into USA until the exact same time as Iran Contra, that isn’t some coincidence. Reagan had to start his “war on drugs” initiative to try to clean up the mess it all created. Of course Ronnie said his administration staff were running this program behind his back without his approval knowledge and maybe that’s true but then again that’s what they all say isn’t it?

 

The award for “most conspiratorial BS” will always and forever be with MAGA kooks and all their election denial, deep state, mainstream media, anti-vax, pizzagate QAnon chemtrail jewish space laser putin supporting batshit. Not all of you believe the exact same combination of batshit, but you all subscribe to some assortment of it. 

Edited December 15, 2024 by BeaverFever

[gatomontes99]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Fentanyl deaths have nothing to do with the subject of this thread or the lie-tweet that started this amd the white house didn’t cover up anything about fentanyl 

 

How about all the crack cocaine deaths after Reagan knowingly and intentionally flooded USA with cocaine to fund his right wing death squads and dictators in central and south America?  The invention of crack cocaine was a direct result the drug epidemic he created. The dug cartels were just small time third world street thugs before Reagan’s dumb ass idea turned them into the richest men in the world whose global enterprises now include fentanyl. 

 

7 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Sorry the Iran Contra scandal is a fact of history.   Dozens of Reagan officials were investigated some were convicted, Bush Sr had to pardon many administration officials, some of them preemptively pardoned to shut down the investigations. There were multiple incidents of planes operated by US government contractors crashing or being seized by Latin American authorities and found to be full of cocaine.
 

Cocaine has been around for a time, but it didn’t massively flood  into USA until the exact same time as Iran Contra, that isn’t some coincidence. Reagan had to start his “war on drugs” initiative to try to clean up the mess it all created. Of course Ronnie said his administration staff were running this program behind his back without his approval knowledge and maybe that’s true but then again that’s what they all say isn’t it?

 

The award for “most conspiratorial BS” will always and forever be with MAGA kooks and all their election denial, deep state, mainstream media, anti-vax, pizzagate QAnon chemtrail jewish space laser putin supporting batshit. Not all of you believe the exact same combination of batshit, but you all subscribe to some assortment of it. 

What I said, was not a leap of logic. What you said was an Olympic sized long jump, setting a new world record.

Fentanyl flooded our borders because the Biden/Harris admin had an open border policy. They can say they didn't all they want, the fact is that border was wide open. To facilitate that open border, they instructed CBP officials to LIE about the number of terrorists crossing the border.

Iran Contra was only an arms deal that was not well received. It wasn't Reagan's best moment, but at least he didn't give Iran billions like Obama/Biden did. But it had nothing to do with cocaine.

Edited December 15, 2024 by gatomontes99

[BeaverFever]

15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Fentanyl flooded our borders because the Biden/Harris admin had an open border policy. They can say they didn't all they want, the fact is that border was wide open.

Bullshit. Laws about how asylum seekers to apply for asylum and how people whose claims are unsuccessful are removed have nothing to do with smuggling   As usual you MAGAs don’t actually think through your own bullshit. 
 

15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

To facilitate that open border, they instructed CBP officials to LIE about the number of terrorists crossing the border.

That’s a lie no terrorists crossed the border and still has nothing to do with fentanyl 

 

15 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

Iran Contra was only an arms deal that was not well received. It wasn't Reagan's best moment, but at least he didn't give Iran billions like Obama/Biden did. But it had nothing to do with cocaine.

Your’e absolutely clueless. It was not “an arms deal” it was BLATANTLY ILLEGAL SECRET DEAL TO SELL MILITARY ARMS TO AMERICA’S ENEMY. Cocaine trafficking was another major source of funding for the Contras and similar US-supported groups and US Operatives were involved. 

Edited December 16, 2024 by BeaverFever

[User]

12 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Sorry the Iran Contra scandal is a fact of history.  

Well, it's a good thing I did not say that Iran Contra never happened!

You asserted Reagan knowingly "flooded" the streets with Cocaine. That is an absolute lie. At best, as you have now backpedaled on (like you tend to do) did they find that the CIA was incompetent in not following up on or caring enough about what might have been a handful of incidents where Cocaine was shipped or the Contras were involved with Cocaine (as they were desperate for funds)

Nowhere, and I do mean nowhere, is there a shred of actual real evidence that Reagan somehow knew about Cocaine and was purposeful "flooding" the streets with it. 

The amount of Cocaine around the Iran Contra affair was a drop in the bucket to what was already being smuggled in illegally to this country. 

So again, you are here pushing wildly dishonest garbage. 

Edited December 15, 2024 by User

[gatomontes99]

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Bullshit. Laws about how asylum seekers to apply for asylum and how people whose claims are unsuccessful are removed have nothing to do with smuggling   As usual you MAGAs don’t actually think through your own bullshit.

Ah, false bravado. The last ditch vestige of the losing argument.

Where you are wrong is that cartels gather migrants, make them pay to be smuggled crossed the border and then send them all to one spot. But they make it obvious so that CBP sees it and sends all their agents to process the migrants. That creates a gap in the securoty that allows the cartels to smuggle drugs in.

BP detains 2nd large migrant group; 1st group used as distraction to smuggle drugs into US

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

That’s a lie no terrorists crossed the border and still has nothing to do with fentanyl

Well, it does as I stated above.

DHS identifies over 400 migrants brought to the U.S. by an ISIS-affiliated human smuggling network

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Your’e absolutely clueless. It was not “an arms deal” it was BLATANTLY ILLEGAL SECRET DEAL TO SEAL MILITARY ARMS TO AMERICA’S ENEMY. Cocaine trafficking was another major source of funding for the Contras and similar US-supported groups and US Operatives were involved. 

So it is not an arms deal because the made a deal to sell military arms?

What do I even say to that? Where did you even get this idea that cocaine was involved. I've never read, heard or seen any such assertion. It's like you literally pulled it out of your aśs.

 

[WestCanMan]

On 12/11/2024 at 4:37 PM, BeaverFever said:

Fake news.

When cowushion boy says it's fake, you know it's true 😉

Seriously though, you would have 100% believed this if it was an anonymously sourced story about Trump, so why are you so quick to discount sworn testimony, which is so specific, and can so easily be disproven? 

Oh, I know....

Dumbass.