Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 Below is a list of programs that may be targeted by DOGE as their funding elapses this year. Quote “There’s a new sheriff in town. Donald Trump’s the president. He has mandated us for radical, drastic reform of this federal bureaucracy with the learnings of that first term,” Ramaswamy said on Fox News. “And look, Elon and I — Elon is solving major problems of physics. I came from the world of biology. What we’re solving here now is not a natural problem. This is a man-made problem, and when you have a man-made problem, you better darn well have a man-made solution. That’s what we’re bringing to the table.” Expiring funding in 2024 Veterans’ health care $119.1B Drug development and opioid addiction treatment 48.2B State Department 38.4B Housing assistance 37.2B Justice Department 35.3B Education spending 29B NASA 24.9B Health care and student loan programs 22.5B International security programs 13.5B Head Start 12.3B National defense programs 11.3B Workforce training programs 9.5B PACT Act 9B Child care assistance 8.7B Education assistance for disabled students 7.7B Federal Aviation Administration 7.1B Immigration and Nationality Act 6.9B Energy policy 6.9B National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration 5.9B State housing grants 5.8B Helping Families Save Their Homes Act 4.1B Annual appropriations 3.2B HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria treatment and research 2.9B Water infrastructure 10 programs that could be on the ‘government efficiency’ chopping block Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 I don't understand how government efficiency department can decide to cut programs, such as veteran support. Isn't this supposed to be about getting rid of old fax machines and stuff? Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Black Dog Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 The silver lining here if they go through with this is a lot of Trump voters are gonna get what they asked for and they're gonna get it good and hard. Quote
Michael Hardner Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Black Dog said: The silver lining here if they go through with this is a lot of Trump voters are gonna get what they asked for and they're gonna get it good and hard. Which means what though? They're just going to have to get Fox to blame it on Joe Biden. Or Hunter Biden. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Fluffypants Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 There is a ton of redundancy in Government, we have programs no one uses that could easily be handled by another office, we have multiple agencies doing the same thing, we have a ton of useless bureaucracy and we have a bunch of people in useless positions that got in because they are related to the boss or are their friend. We also desperately need updating of technology that will allow us to replace people that in most other companies their position no longer exists. In other words we need to rein in inefficiencies and run these agencies like businesses with increased productivity. 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 30 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Isn't this supposed to be about getting rid of old fax machines and stuff? They want to cut $2 trillion dollars. Tell me people won't be hurt. Quote
Black Dog Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 14 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Which means what though? They're just going to have to get Fox to blame it on Joe Biden. Or Hunter Biden. Whether they recognize the cause of their suffering is less important than the fact they suffer. Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 8 minutes ago, Fluffypants said: There is a ton of redundancy in Government, we have programs no one uses that could easily be handled by another office, we have multiple agencies doing the same thing, we have a ton of useless bureaucracy and we have a bunch of people in useless positions that got in because they are related to the boss or are their friend. This has nothing to do with cutting inefficiency. It has all to do with funding tax cuts for the rich. 1 Quote
User Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 Just another trolling thread. You lied in the title and then the whole argument is what "may" be cut. How about you show us where DOGE has made any specific recommendations on cutting anything you listed here. 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 Musk calls for billions to be cut from the defense budget at the same time he accepts $3.6 billion dollars from the agency. Hypocrite! Quote
Black Dog Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, Radiorum said: This has nothing to do with cutting inefficiency. It has all to do with funding tax cuts for the rich. That and stripping away worker and consumer protections, ending environmental regulations, that sort of thing. 1 1 Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 8 minutes ago, User said: How about you show us where DOGE has made any specific recommendations on cutting anything you listed here. Besides what I have posted, here's a sampling from another article: Quote Ramaswamy has suggested that one of the priorities of the commission would be to cut the defense department budget, saying the agency has “nearly a trillion dollars of budget—they can’t even tell you where it goes” Trump has called for the dismantling of the (education) department for several years, and the commission is doubling down as Ramaswamy said that he expects “mass reductions” and “certain agencies to be deleted outright,” Musk and Ramaswamy wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal this week, in which they said “$535 million a year” spent on the nonprofit overseeing broadcasting networks PBS and NPR was an example of “unauthorized” spending and money used in ways “that Congress never intended,” though the organization was created and authorized by Congress. They intend to cut “nearly $300 million to progressive groups like Planned Parenthood,” … Planned Parenthood receives about $50 million annually from the federal government. They also plan on taking aim at “$1.5 billion for grants to international organizations,” Musk is reportedly expected to take aim at the IRS, Federal Trade Commission, Department of Justice and Securities and Exchange Commission: While Musk and Ramaswamy have not directly addressed their plans for these agencies, Musk is reportedly expected to make cuts to them, the Wall Street Journal reported. top programs for which Congressional authorizations are expiring this year are related to veterans’ healthcare, drug development and NASA (which Musk’s SpaceX has a reported $11.8 billion in federal contracts with), according to the Congressional Budget Office. Musk has also re-posted content on X that suggested federal funds were spent on “transgender monkeys, DEI and checks to dead people,” to which he said it “looks like a lot of opportunity for @DOGE!” https://www.forbes.com/sites/lindseychoo/2024/11/22/elon-musk-doge-takes-aim-federal-agencies-where-cuts-can-be-made/ Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 Musk has pointed to cutting the federal budget by $2 trillion. Where do you think the money is going to come from? Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 And there is a bigger question here - Who-TF is Musk? - an unelected opportunist who knew how to shmooze the president-elect and in so doing gain enormous power and in the long run do doubt enrich himself. 1 Quote
Black Dog Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 Just now, Radiorum said: And there is a bigger question here - Who-TF is Musk? - an unelected opportunist who knew how to shmooze the president-elect and in so doing gain enormous power and in the long run do doubt enrich himself. I'm taking the under on Trump getting sick of Elon's shit before inauguration day. 2 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Black Dog said: I'm taking the under on Trump getting sick of Elon's shit before inauguration day. What about Ramaswarmy? The guy just needs a shit kicking. Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Black Dog said: 'm taking the under on Trump getting sick of Elon's shit before inauguration day. Lol, I don't think Trump liked it much when Musk jumped around on the stage and stole the spotlight. Quote
User Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 25 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Musk calls for billions to be cut from the defense budget at the same time he accepts $3.6 billion dollars from the agency. Hypocrite! How is that hypocrisy? 11 minutes ago, Radiorum said: And there is a bigger question here - Who-TF is Musk? - an unelected opportunist who knew how to shmooze the president-elect and in so doing gain enormous power and in the long run do doubt enrich himself. He was the innovative guy revolutionizing space travel among other things like tunnels and electric cars that the Democrats spent the last several years going after with the government bureaucracy. Hmmmm... big surprise he is going to back the dude that isn't going to weaponize the government against him. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Radiorum said: Below is a list of programs that may be targeted by DOGE as their funding elapses this year. Expiring funding in 2024 Veterans’ health care $119.1B Drug development and opioid addiction treatment 48.2B State Department 38.4B Housing assistance 37.2B Justice Department 35.3B Education spending 29B NASA 24.9B Health care and student loan programs 22.5B International security programs 13.5B Head Start 12.3B National defense programs 11.3B Workforce training programs 9.5B PACT Act 9B Child care assistance 8.7B Education assistance for disabled students 7.7B Federal Aviation Administration 7.1B Immigration and Nationality Act 6.9B Energy policy 6.9B National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration 5.9B State housing grants 5.8B Helping Families Save Their Homes Act 4.1B Annual appropriations 3.2B HIV/AIDS, tuberculosis and malaria treatment and research 2.9B Water infrastructure 10 programs that could be on the ‘government efficiency’ chopping block Buh bye! ✋️👋🖐 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 1 minute ago, User said: How is that hypocrisy? He's got $11.8 billion in contracts with NASA, too. It's hypocrisy becomes he claims one thing but practices another. Quote
User Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 18 minutes ago, Radiorum said: Besides what I have posted, here's a sampling from another article: Again, where did DOGE propose cutting the things you listed? That is the question. 26 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said: Don me a favour, @User Do not procreate. Oh look, the king troll himself coming to the rescue... ROFL Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 1 minute ago, User said: Again, where did DOGE propose cutting the things you listed? That is the question. What are you suggesting? That DOGE is not going to slash and burn? Where do you think they are going to get the $2 trillion dollars? Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Buh bye! Well, if you are looking for a country that provides less than minimal services, I am sure the US will welcome you. Hey! maybe you can go bankrupt over having to pay your health costs!! Me, I'll stay in Canada. Quote
User Posted November 22, 2024 Report Posted November 22, 2024 5 minutes ago, Radiorum said: He's got $11.8 billion in contracts with NASA, too. It's hypocrisy becomes he claims one thing but practices another. That doesn't answer the question. What is he claiming here and practicing differently? 3 minutes ago, Radiorum said: What are you suggesting? That DOGE is not going to slash and burn? Where do you think they are going to get the $2 trillion dollars? I am suggesting that you lied when you created this thread and listed off many things in your first post with nothing from DOGE saying they were cutting that or "threatening" to. Quote
Radiorum Posted November 22, 2024 Author Report Posted November 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, User said: What is he claiming here and practicing differently? Defense and NASA must cut their costs - unless it benefits me. Have you an answer to my question? 3 minutes ago, User said: I am suggesting that you lied I didn't even make a claim in my OP. I just reported. Quote
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