August1991 Posted November 2, 2024 Report Posted November 2, 2024 We Canadians get along. Unlike Americans, we have never had a civil war. Unlike the Swedes, we get involved. Unlike the Austrian-Hungarians, we have a functioning bilingual federal state. Unlike the Chinese and Japanese, we welcome foreigners. Unlike the Russians/Bulgarians, we have never been occupied. Huh? French Canada has survived. Quote
August1991 Posted November 2, 2024 Author Report Posted November 2, 2024 The Nixon/Kissinger world-view was like Trudeau Snr: counterweights. The Reagan world-view was: "We win, you lose." Prior to 1989, we in the West confronted an ideological enemy. Reagan was correct. He won. ==== Now, we in the West confront a multi-polar world. For peace, we must think like Kissinger/Nixon/Trudeau. 1 Quote
Scott75 Posted November 2, 2024 Report Posted November 2, 2024 9 hours ago, August1991 said: We Canadians get along. Unlike Americans, we have never had a civil war. True, but then, we never had to really have a revolution either. During the brief time when Canadian leaders started rebelling against the UK, they'd just hop over the border when the British troops came and went right back once they left :-p. Quote
Scott75 Posted November 2, 2024 Report Posted November 2, 2024 9 hours ago, August1991 said: Unlike the Russians/Bulgarians, we have never been occupied. The U.S. briefly occupied a bit of Canada back in 1812. Granted it wasn't exactly much of an occupation :-p. For those who haven't heard of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_1812 Here's the occupied part: ** Late in 1813, the Americans abandoned the Canadian territory that they occupied around Fort George. They set fire to the village of Newark (now Niagara-on-the-Lake) on 10 December 1813, incensing the Canadians. Many of the inhabitants were left without shelter, freezing to death in the snow. The British retaliated following their Capture of Fort Niagara on 18 December 1813. A British-Indian force led by Riall stormed the neighbouring town of Lewiston, New York on 19 December; four American civilians were killed by drunken Indians after the battle. ** Quote
August1991 Posted November 4, 2024 Author Report Posted November 4, 2024 On 11/2/2024 at 12:52 PM, phoenyx75 said: True, but then, we never had to really have a revolution either. During the brief time when Canadian leaders started rebelling against the UK, they'd just hop over the border when the British troops came and went right back once they left :-p. Misses point. ==== We Canadians get along. We are like Europe in 1910 or so. 1 Quote
Scott75 Posted November 4, 2024 Report Posted November 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, August1991 said: Misses point. ==== We Canadians get along. We are like Europe in 1910 or so. Well, we did have those tense Quebec referendums, but fortunately the side that wanted to stay in Canada prevailed 🙂 Quote
August1991 Posted November 4, 2024 Author Report Posted November 4, 2024 2 minutes ago, phoenyx75 said: Well, we did have those tense Quebec referendums, but fortunately the side that wanted to stay in Canada prevailed 🙂 We in Canada have a structure of peace. Catholics, Protestants. We have avoided civil war. ==== We get along. 1 Quote
August1991 Posted November 4, 2024 Author Report Posted November 4, 2024 IMHO, Europeans kill each other after a few generations. The period of 1914-1945 was typical. Like 1789-1815. Thirty Years War: 1618-1648. Quote
Scott75 Posted November 4, 2024 Report Posted November 4, 2024 (edited) 12 hours ago, August1991 said: We in Canada have a structure of peace. Catholics, Protestants. We have avoided civil war. ==== We get along. I guess so. On the other hand, we do things like this: https://nationalpost.com/news/evidence-against-justin-trudeau-claim-he-didnt-force-vaccination I left Canada before they banned flights for people who were unvaccinated for covid and haven't gone back. Edited November 4, 2024 by phoenyx75 Quote
eyeball Posted November 4, 2024 Report Posted November 4, 2024 18 hours ago, August1991 said: We Canadians get along. We are like Europe in 1910 or so. 18 hours ago, August1991 said: IMHO, Europeans kill each other after a few generations. The period of 1914-1945 was typical. Hmmm 🤔 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Army Guy Posted November 8, 2024 Report Posted November 8, 2024 On 11/3/2024 at 8:20 PM, August1991 said: We in Canada have a structure of peace. Catholics, Protestants. We have avoided civil war. ==== We get along. WOW...i'm sure Historians around the globe would disagree, we have a huge group in Quebec that want to go their separate way, a huge group in Alberta that wants the same thing, we have huge english / french divide, not to mention the left and right side of politics that can't even talk to each other, lets not even mention the LGBTQ war on Parents and other woke agendas...., Palestinian protests that are making it unsafe for Israelis Canadians, unvaccinated vs the vaccinated that was fun times, Convoy supporters vs Ottawa citizens, gun owners vs non gun owners, every federal department is on fire while we Canadians break out the marshmallows.... Unions that want more money , to work from home...Canadians don't get along....we tolerate those in our close circle the rest well F*ck the rest it is every one for themselves...Liberal /NDP government have divided this country into little pieces....and you for some reason can't see all of that from all the smoke around you....This country is one huge dumpster fire... That means everything we have avoided a civil war...SO what,lots of countries have not had one, does not prove anything one way or another... We get along , perhaps in your drug induced coma, we do get along...and maybe your some nice guy that has not been outside in 20 years....The global doomsday clock has never been closer to the world tearing itself apart....and we has a nation will be dragged kicking and screaming into that reality...."we get along" what a joke.... given half a chance Canadians will tear themselves apart.... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
August1991 Posted November 9, 2024 Author Report Posted November 9, 2024 6 hours ago, Army Guy said: WOW...i'm sure Historians around the globe would disagree, we have a huge group in Quebec that want to go their separate way, a huge group in Alberta that wants the same thing, we have huge english / french divide, not to mention the left and right side of politics that can't even talk to each other, lets not even mention the LGBTQ war on Parents and other woke agendas.... ===. That means everything we have avoided a civil war...SO what,lots of countries have not had one, does not prove anything one way or another... We get along , Nationalists try to define people: white suburban women, black uneducated men, etc. We Canadians get along. Quote
Army Guy Posted November 9, 2024 Report Posted November 9, 2024 1 hour ago, August1991 said: Nationalists try to define people: white suburban women, black uneducated men, etc. We Canadians get along. I guess the rest of the country went nationalist on you... You wish we canadians got along...why are we so divided then... Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
August1991 Posted November 9, 2024 Author Report Posted November 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Army Guy said: I guess the rest of the country went nationalist on you... You wish we canadians got along...why are we so divided then... We Canadians do not fight violently - no one dies. Look at Syria, Lebanon, Sri Lanka, Ukraine. We Canadians have such divisions. Yet we Canadians get along. Quote
August1991 Posted November 9, 2024 Author Report Posted November 9, 2024 And we Canadians have a federal state with two official languages - but no official State culture. We are a multi-cultural federal state. Quote
August1991 Posted November 9, 2024 Author Report Posted November 9, 2024 Civilised Europe collapsed in 1914. Why? Quote
eyeball Posted November 11, 2024 Report Posted November 11, 2024 On 11/8/2024 at 11:01 PM, August1991 said: Civilised Europe collapsed in 1914. Why? Oh oh oh I know...! They didn't get along? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
August1991 Posted November 11, 2024 Author Report Posted November 11, 2024 29 minutes ago, eyeball said: Oh oh oh I know...! They didn't get along? In many ways, the Lemberg of 1910 was like my Montreal today. We Canadians get along. It can be done. We do it. Quote
Nationalist Posted November 11, 2024 Report Posted November 11, 2024 12 hours ago, August1991 said: In many ways, the Lemberg of 1910 was like my Montreal today. We Canadians get along. It can be done. We do it. Man you're starting to sound like myata. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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