robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Grab a history book you silly little propaganda victim. In case you missed it, the same people who told you that Ukraine is winning also told you that Ukraine and Biden didn't instigate this war. Ukraine "elected" a comedian and the joke is on them. You keep proving your delusion that ONLY YOU understands what is going on when you're nothing but a surrender monkey. LMAO Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: You certainly have no concept of minding your own business. If Russia and Ukraine wanna fight...let 'em. What's it to you? I mean aside from the expense...which I also object to paying for. The risk/reward calculation makes this war unwise to allow to escalate. The Europeans and Brandon know this. All they do is provide enough to maintain this standoff...which is now also collapsing. The reason for RESTRAINT is the WISE RECOGNITION that too much provocation would be DISASTROUS for EVERYONE. Unfortunate that you FAIL to understand that. 2 hours ago, WestCanMan said: You're pretty unlucky when it comes to thinking I guess. FYI when NC was babbling about peace for our time, the Nazi war machine was immense and deadly. As we all know, they were capable of running roughshod across Europe, obliterating everything that got in their path with relative ease. I think that we all know that Russia is not capable of waltzing across Europe any time soon. Regardless of how peaceful Russia actually plans to be, your concerns about them rampaging across Europe are completely unfounded, just like everything else that leftards say. Doesn't matter if they can't "rampage" as long as slowly gobbling up neighbors continues due to YOUR DESIRE to surrender. Quote
Nationalist Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 7 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War 100 years ago, Poland defeated the Soviet Union, and gained territories that were predominantly Ukrainian and Belorussian. I am fully aware of World history. You should try learning history. Real history, not fake history. Huh...sounds like the Ukraine and Russia have more to fear from Polish aggression. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 6 hours ago, robosmith said: The reason for RESTRAINT is the WISE RECOGNITION that too much provocation would be DISASTROUS for EVERYONE. Unfortunate that you FAIL to understand that. Actually...what's unfortunate is that you just agreed with me and are to numb to know it. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Five of swords Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 7 hours ago, robosmith said: Seems it was Russia who broke the Minsk Agreement, just like they RENEGED on the Budapest Memorandum Who is to blame for the failure of the Minsk agreement? It was Russia's aggression that killed the Minsk process. It was Putin who declared that the Minsk agreements no longer existed. And it was Russia that systematically failed to implement its obligations, freely signed up to, under the Minsk agreements, which the Council endorsed unanimously in resolution 2202.Feb 12, 2024 The UK will continue to stand with Ukraine, defend the Charter and call out Russian disinformation: UK Statement at the UN Security Council - GOV.UK www.gov.uk https://www.gov.uk › government › speeches › the-uk-w... You are so naive you believe Putin doesn't always want MORE PLUNDER. I find it hilarious that your experts lie to you about this when thr politicians themselves have openly laughed about how they never even Intended to follow the Minsk agreement Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 10 hours ago, DUI_Offender said: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish–Soviet_War 100 years ago, Poland defeated the Soviet Union, and gained territories that were predominantly Ukrainian and Belorussian. I am fully aware of World history. You should try learning history. Real history, not fake history. The point of understanding history is to gain the ability to understand what's going on around you and even predict what will happen in the future, like I did when I told you all that Russia would attack Ukraine if Biden got elected. What was the point of you gathering all that historical knowledge just to couple it with your astounding ignorance? It's like putting a more powerful engine in your car and then painting the windshield black. 10 hours ago, Hodad said: You're such a Putin stooge it beggars the imagination. I know you're a total sub for "macho" authoritarian types. I guess at least this one is an actual tough guy. Like I said, go take your up-is-down, black-is-white, victim-blaming gaslighting somewhere else. Nobody here (aside from you) is dumb enough to believe that anyone other than Putin, the aggressor and invader, is responsible for this war. Hey dummy, the topic is escalating wars in the ME, not your ability to belch out sandbox insults. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 9 hours ago, robosmith said: And you don't even understand that Ukraine didn't start the war with Russia, right? How dare they take actions NOT in subservience to the greater power cause that's just BEGGING for war and STARTING a war, right? You know it's people who believe what you do, that encourages a greater power to invade a weaker nation like was ROUTINELY done BEFORE the Geneva Conventions when the WORLD AGREED that was NO LONGER ALLOWED. You are so CONSERVATIVE, you want to go THAT FAR BACK IN TIME. 🤮 Do you really believe that's when THE WORLD WAS GREAT? Buddy, you have no clue what the US was doing to 'democracy' in Ukraine, nor the threat that NATO in Ukraine would pose to current and future generations of Russians. Every time you talk, it's like you're trying to prove how stupid you are. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 4 hours ago, Nationalist said: Actually...what's unfortunate is that you just agreed with me and are to numb to know it. No I DO NOT agree with you when you say it's COLLAPSING. I KNOW you're HOPING IT'S COLLAPSING which is why you're supporting Trump the surrender monkey. Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Five of swords said: I find it hilarious that your experts lie to you about this when thr politicians themselves have openly laughed about how they never even Intended to follow the Minsk agreement I find your complete lack of EVIDENCE completely UNCONVINCING. Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: What was the point of you gathering all that historical knowledge just to couple it with your astounding ignorance? What's the point of you ^contradicting yourself? LMAO Gathering knowledge is the OPPOSITE of "astounding ignorance." Duh Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Buddy, you have no clue what the US was doing to 'democracy' in Ukraine, nor the threat that NATO in Ukraine would pose to current and future generations of Russians. You have NO CLUE about what Yanukovych did to over 100 protestors who died at Maidan. Nor that he reneged on his campaign promise to negotiate a trade deal with the West. Probably cause Putin bribed him. Meanwhile Putin has ONLY GROWN the number of NATO members on his border. The thing you are REALLY IGNORANT about, is Putin wants the HUGE GAS RESERVES off Ukraine's Southern coast and that's why he's willing to kill hundreds of thousands of his and Ukraines' citizens. Putin is the ultimate KLEPTOCRAT and Ukraine has much for him to PLUNDER. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Every time you talk, it's like you're trying to prove how stupid you are. That would be you making claims with NO EVIDENCE. Quote
Hodad Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The point of understanding history is to gain the ability to understand what's going on around you and even predict what will happen in the future, like I did when I told you all that Russia would attack Ukraine if Biden got elected. What was the point of you gathering all that historical knowledge just to couple it with your astounding ignorance? It's like putting a more powerful engine in your car and then painting the windshield black. Hey dummy, the topic is escalating wars in the ME, not your ability to belch out sandbox insults. Nah, when you start blaming the victim for "instigating" their own invasion the topic becomes how goddamn crazy you are. 1 Quote
User Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Buddy, you have no clue what the US was doing to 'democracy' in Ukraine, nor the threat that NATO in Ukraine would pose to current and future generations of Russians. Every time you talk, it's like you're trying to prove how stupid you are. NATO is a defensive alliance. They pose no threat to Russia or to current or future generations of Russians as long as Russia is not attacking them. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, robosmith said: What's the point of you ^contradicting yourself? LMAO Gathering knowledge is the OPPOSITE of "astounding ignorance." Duh No it isn't, dumbass. He was forced to learn some of it in a history class, or he watched a show with his grandparents to learn that. FYI refusing to avail oneself of all the modern and historical knowledge and context of a situation, just to fit it into one's own narrative and belch it out in their echo chamber, is the epitome of ignorance. "This war started when Biden was president, there was peace there under Trump, and I like the comedian running Ukraine and all of his Nazi soldiers, so this war is all the fault of the other guy, no matter what." That's what I'm up against here, not a bunch of people who understand the geopolitical situation and have something intelligent to say. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 3 hours ago, robosmith said: You have NO CLUE about what Yanukovych did to over 100 protestors who died at Maidan. Your confirmation bias is is jacked that you're completely brainwashed. Quote Putin is the ultimate KLEPTOCRAT and Ukraine has much for him to PLUNDER. You obviously don't see the irony of a Biden supporter making that comment, but honestly it's so funny that it made your snotty little post worth reading. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 2 hours ago, Hodad said: Nah, when you start blaming the victim for "instigating" their own invasion the topic becomes how goddamn crazy you are. Do you think that Ukraine would be the first country to instigate a war, you f'ing dummy? Do you think that the USA would be the first country to instigate a proxy war, you f'ing dummy? This has nothing to do with my awesome craziness and everything to do with your ignorance, biases and stupidity. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 Speaking of escalating wars, the USA just flew bombers over Yemen and struck targets there, and Israel just openly threatened Iran today. The ME is no longer just a hot war between Israel and Iran, plus some other Iranian proxies, it's a hot war involving Israel, Iran, the US, Yemen, Lebanon and Palestine. If you look around, there is a very large number of countries involved in Iran's proxy war against Israel and America's proxy war against Russia. You could basically call this Proxy World War I. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: No it isn't, dumbass. He was forced to learn some of it in a history class, or he watched a show with his grandparents to learn that. FYI refusing to avail oneself of all the modern and historical knowledge and context of a situation, just to fit it into one's own narrative and belch it out in their echo chamber, is the epitome of ignorance. "This war started when Biden was president, there was peace there under Trump, and I like the comedian running Ukraine and all of his Nazi soldiers, so this war is all the fault of the other guy, no matter what." That's what I'm up against here, not a bunch of people who understand the geopolitical situation and have something intelligent to say. No the war is on Putin cause he ordered the invasion and sent the tanks to Kiev. Simple as that, Mr. Delusional. Anything else is just you making excuses for Putin's naked aggression. 1 Quote
NAME REMOVED Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: "This war started when Biden was president, there was peace there under Trump, and I like the comedian running Ukraine and all of his Nazi soldiers, so this war is all the fault of the other guy, no matter what." That's what I'm up against here, not a bunch of people who understand the geopolitical situation and have something intelligent to say. There was never peace in Ukraine under Trump. There was an active war in the Donbas, that rebel groups funded by Putin, were trying to get the region to break off from the country. Do you know anything about this conflict? 2 Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Your confirmation bias is is jacked that you're completely brainwashed. Says you with ZERO evidence. I already pointed you to the documentary Winter on Fire: Ukraine's Fight for Freedom Not Rated 2015 ‧ Documentary/War ‧ 1h 42m You got Jack Shit. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: You obviously don't see the irony of a Biden supporter making that comment, but honestly it's so funny that it made your snotty little post worth reading. You can't even explain what you believe is irony and don't know that Putin has stolen $200B from Russia. Of course he wants MORE. You got Jack Shit. 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Do you think that Ukraine would be the first country to instigate a war, you f'ing dummy? Do you think that the USA would be the first country to instigate a proxy war, you f'ing dummy? This has nothing to do with my awesome craziness and everything to do with your ignorance, biases and stupidity. Your FANTASIES don't prove themselves. And neither can you. Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, WestCanMan said: Speaking of escalating wars, the USA just flew bombers over Yemen and struck targets there, and Israel just openly threatened Iran today. The ME is no longer just a hot war between Israel and Iran, plus some other Iranian proxies, it's a hot war involving Israel, Iran, the US, Yemen, Lebanon and Palestine. If you look around, there is a very large number of countries involved in Iran's proxy war against Israel and America's proxy war against Russia. You could basically call this Proxy World War I. The US is NOT at war. We are just protecting trade through the Suez Canal by wiping out Yemini rocket launchers.. Quote
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, robosmith said: No the war is on Putin cause he ordered the invasion and sent the tanks to Kiev. Simple as that, Mr. Delusional. Anything else is just you making excuses for Putin's naked aggression. Go look up "proxy war", stupid. What you see there will shock you. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted October 17, 2024 Author Report Posted October 17, 2024 1 hour ago, DUI_Offender said: There was never peace in Ukraine under Trump. There was an active war in the Donbas, that rebel groups funded by Putin, were trying to get the region to break off from the country. Do you know anything about this conflict? There was a small feud simmering when Trump was POTUS, dummy. It started when Biden was VP under Obama That feud was penny-ante stuff compared to what happened when Obama was president, and the annexation of Crimea was then dwarfed by the war that Biden started. Face it: if you're a fane of Russia's burgeoning border, you're a fan of Obama and Biden. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Go look up "proxy war", stupid. What you see there will shock you. I know what a proxy war is, and Ukraine is NOT THAT. Putin CHOSE the war, cause he wants to PLUNDER, lDIOT. Quote
robosmith Posted October 17, 2024 Report Posted October 17, 2024 2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: There was a small feud simmering when Trump was POTUS, dummy. It started when Biden was VP under Obama That feud was penny-ante stuff compared to what happened when Obama was president, and the annexation of Crimea was then dwarfed by the war that Biden started. Face it: if you're a fane of Russia's burgeoning border, you're a fan of Obama and Biden. Putin CHOSE the war, NOT Biden nor Zelenskiy. You just sound like a Putin Puppet lDIOT when you try to blame ANYONE ELSE. Quote
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