Current America is wrong: Republican & Democrat

[August1991]

 

Edited August 26, 2024 by August1991

[August1991]

Reagan defeated the Soviets.

Except in your colleges, there are no Marxists. Possibly some Arabists.

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As Trudeau Snr once said, we need counterweights.

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Lindsay Graham is 100% correct. We need to keep supporting Ukraine, so they can drive the Russian invaders from their land. A weak Russia is beneficial to America. A weak America benefits Russia.

[August1991]

On 8/25/2024 at 11:40 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Lindsay Graham is 100% correct. We need to keep supporting Ukraine, so they can drive the Russian invaders from their land. A weak Russia is beneficial to America. A weak America benefits Russia.

As they say, you and Lindsay Graham will defend America to the last Ukrainian.

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The Soviet Union is no more. We no longer face an ideological threat.

OTOH, we live - as always - in a multi-polar world.

 

[Deluge]

On 8/25/2024 at 9:40 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Lindsay Graham is 100% correct. We need to keep supporting Ukraine, so they can drive the Russian invaders from their land. A weak Russia is beneficial to America. A weak America benefits Russia.

Lets make room for China, the world's righfrul dictator. 

-- The Left

[Nationalist]

On 8/25/2024 at 11:40 PM, DUI_Offender said:

Lindsay Graham is 100% correct. We need to keep supporting Ukraine, so they can drive the Russian invaders from their land. A weak Russia is beneficial to America. A weak America benefits Russia.

Lindsay Graham is a m0ron. We're it up to him, we'd all live in the United States of Earth.

[Rebound]

On 8/25/2024 at 11:13 PM, August1991 said:

Reagan defeated the Soviets.

Except in your colleges, there are no Marxists. Possibly some Arabists.

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As Trudeau Snr once said, we need counterweights.

I do not think that Reagan defeated the Soviets. The fall of the USSR came from Gorbachev’s stated policies, which he implemented. 
 

When dockworkers went on strike in Gdańsk, Gorbachev could have sent in tanks. Putin certainly would have. But Gorbachev did not.  This is what happened.  The idea that a nation fell because of its economy is absurd; it’s never happened in all history. WW II Japan was pounded to rubble, but their government remained in power.  Mao lead a nation of people who were literally starving to death, like 100 million died from starvation, but his government remained. The USSR did not fall because of economics. It fell because Gorbachev permitted it.  

[Nationalist]

43 minutes ago, Rebound said:

I do not think that Reagan defeated the Soviets. The fall of the USSR came from Gorbachev’s stated policies, which he implemented. 
 

When dockworkers went on strike in Gdańsk, Gorbachev could have sent in tanks. Putin certainly would have. But Gorbachev did not.  This is what happened.  The idea that a nation fell because of its economy is absurd; it’s never happened in all history. WW II Japan was pounded to rubble, but their government remained in power.  Mao lead a nation of people who were literally starving to death, like 100 million died from starvation, but his government remained. The USSR did not fall because of economics. It fell because Gorbachev permitted it.  

Huh...

Couldn't have had anything to do with the hundred million people who wanted to be out from under Soviet control...especially the satellite states. 

But ya...over simplification suites you.

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3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...

Couldn't have had anything to do with the hundred million people who wanted to be out from under Soviet control...especially the satellite states. 

But ya...over simplification suites you.

The USSR still had the military capacity to crush all resistance and uprising from Eastern Europe.

The point he is trying to make, is Gorbachev implemented reforms in the name of Glasnost, allowing most countries in Eastern Europe to uprise and topple the communist leaders without Soviet intervention. 

Edited September 2, 2024 by DUI_Offender

[Nationalist]

2 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

The USSR still had the military capacity to crush all resistance and uprising from Eastern Europe.

The point he is trying to make, is Gorbachev implemented reforms in the name of Glasnost, allowing most countries in Eastern Europe to uprise and topple the communist leaders without Soviet intervention. 

Dude...the satellites were already gone. The Russian military was not supporting the Kremlin anymore.

[robosmith]

On 8/25/2024 at 8:13 PM, August1991 said:

Reagan defeated the Soviets.

Except in your colleges, there are no Marxists. Possibly some Arabists.

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As Trudeau Snr once said, we need counterweights.

Reagan wasn't the last in a LONG LINE of concerted Soviet counter measures; George HW Bush was. Duh

[robosmith]

10 hours ago, August1991 said:

As they say, you and Lindsay Graham will defend America to the last Ukrainian.

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The Soviet Union is no more. We no longer face an ideological threat.

OTOH, we live - as always - in a multi-polar world.

We face the threat of a megalomaniacal fascist who dreams of resurrecting the USSR and is taking ILLEGAL steps to make it happen. IF International agreements are not enforced, they MEAN NOTHING.

Ukrainians can surrender anytime they want and ONLY face repercussions from Putin. 

5 hours ago, Deluge said:

Lets make room for China, the world's righfrul dictator. 

-- The Left

Let's let Putin succeed so Xi will know there are no penalties for aggressive land grabs.

-- DELUGINAL

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Huh...

Couldn't have had anything to do with the hundred million people who wanted to be out from under Soviet control...especially the satellite states. 

But ya...over simplification suites you.

IGNORANCE suits you daily.

[Nationalist]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

IGNORANCE suits you daily.

Sweetie...I was there just after it all happened. I know what happened. 

[robosmith]

9 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Sweetie...I was there just after it all happened. I know what happened. 

Since it was AFTER, you obviously MISSED IT.

[Nationalist]

6 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Since it was AFTER, you obviously MISSED IT.

Lol...you really are a silly person...

[Deluge]

38 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Let's let Putin succeed so Xi will know there are no penalties for aggressive land grabs.

-- DELUGINAL

Let's just focus on our own country and toss the left-wingers out with the illegal aliens. 

-- Deluge

[Nationalist]

8 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Let's just focus on our own country and toss the left-wingers out with the illegal aliens. 

-- Deluge

Give 'em Manhattan. All the freaks and beautiful illegals can go there and show us all how it's done.

Hell Laura will become the most popular name there in no time. They can paint it all pretty colors and love each other...to death.

Oh it would be grand...

Edited September 2, 2024 by Nationalist

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, Nationalist said:

Give 'em Manhattan. All threats and beautiful illegals can go there and show us all how it's done.

Of course we'll have to set up a perimeter like in the movie Escape From New York. Any pronoun spewing woketard found outside that perimeter gets sentenced to 30 years in a labor camp. 

[robosmith]

20 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Let's just focus on our own country and toss the left-wingers out with the illegal aliens. 

-- Deluge

I will trash the Constitution for political advantage ANY TIME.

-- DELUGINAL

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41 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

Dude...the satellites were already gone. The Russian military was not supporting the Kremlin anymore.

Wrong.

 

When Gorbachev became Premier of the USSR, Russia did not not technically exist as a country. It was a "Soviet Republic " in 1986.

Gorbachev implemented a series of reforms,  as he realised to USSR could not compete with the Americans,  as the Soviet Union was impoverished and in debt.

The satellites, or "Iron Curtain" certainly existed when Gorbachev took power. However,  he made no effort to stop the collapse of east Europe,  and the overthrow of the communists pupet regeimes in 1989.

The Baltic Soviet republics started to declare independance a year later in 1990. Then finally, communist hardliners tried to stage a coup to reestablish old Sovier policies in 1991, but failed.

Boris Yeltzin took over and declated that the Soviet Union dead, along with communism, and tried to establish a free market economy, while granting all former Soviet republics total or partial independance, as some former republics joined the CIS-Commonwealth of Independant States. 

The Kremlin has always been suported by either the Russian controlled Soviet Union, or beginning in 1991, Russia itself.

 

[Deluge]

21 minutes ago, robosmith said:

I will support the Constitution even if it means allowing you wokejobs to burn the US flag. 

-- Deluge

That's how it works, robomarx.  

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, Deluge said:

That's how it works, robomarx.  

NOT when you advocate EVICTING CITIZENS. Duh

[Nationalist]

27 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

Wrong.

 

When Gorbachev became Premier of the USSR, Russia did not not technically exist as a country. It was a "Soviet Republic " in 1986.

Gorbachev implemented a series of reforms,  as he realised to USSR could not compete with the Americans,  as the Soviet Union was impoverished and in debt.

The satellites, or "Iron Curtain" certainly existed when Gorbachev took power. However,  he made no effort to stop the collapse of east Europe,  and the overthrow of the communists pupet regeimes in 1989.

The Baltic Soviet republics started to declare independance a year later in 1990. Then finally, communist hardliners tried to stage a coup to reestablish old Sovier policies in 1991, but failed.

Boris Yeltzin took over and declated that the Soviet Union dead, along with communism, and tried to establish a free market economy, while granting all former Soviet republics total or partial independance, as some former republics joined the CIS-Commonwealth of Independant States. 

The Kremlin has always been suported by either the Russian controlled Soviet Union, or beginning in 1991, Russia itself.

 

I said the military. The government was irrelevant by then.

[robosmith]

Just now, Nationalist said:

I said the military. The government was irrelevant by then.

Too bad you have ZERO EVIDENCE for ^this OPINION.