Are Republicans For or Against IVF?

[User]

51 minutes ago, Matthew said:

You have certainly said things at every step of the way as usual. But you've not been open about your desire to ban IVF as it actually exists, instead of the non-existent version where they don't destroy fertilized cells.

How have I not been open?

See, instead of responding to what I say, you have to steer this discussion to absurdly mischaracterizing what I am doing. 

Never mind half the other lines of bad argument you have abandoned on here. 

 

[Matthew]

2 hours ago, User said:

instead of responding to what I say, you have to steer this discussion to absurdly mischaracterizing what I am doing. 

Never mind half the other lines of bad argument you have abandoned on here. 

You've said enough vaugeries for me to extrapolate your opinion, which I do appreciate.  But apparently you don't represent the view of most Republicans in this issue, so chasing every one of your tedious rabbit trails serves no further purpose. Also you lack the normal human reciprocity that makes a friendly debate with people of opposing views interesting.

[impartialobserver]

There has always been a small, niche sect of Conservative Christians who are against birth control and therefore IVF. However, some research shows that not enough would get behind such legislation at a federal level. I could see Louisiana or Arkansas trying this but nationally.. not quite

[User]

1 hour ago, Matthew said:

You've said enough vaugeries for me to extrapolate your opinion, which I do appreciate.  But apparently you don't represent the view of most Republicans in this issue, so chasing every one of your tedious rabbit trails serves no further purpose. Also you lack the normal human reciprocity that makes a friendly debate with people of opposing views interesting.

You are not extrapolating anything, you are just making stuff up. 

You were the one who wanted my opinion here, I gave it to you. You started this thread ignorant of the Republican position and I helped you out. 

You don't deserve reciprocity of friendly debate when you make up crap I never said to argue against. 

[Hodad]

22 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

There has always been a small, niche sect of Conservative Christians who are against birth control and therefore IVF. However, some research shows that not enough would get behind such legislation at a federal level. I could see Louisiana or Arkansas trying this but nationally.. not quite

You're right. But that's also a pretty good illustration of why the Supreme Court and the presidency matter. Even people who have the misfortune of living in Louisiana or Arkansas deserve to have their basic rights secured against an overreaching state or a tyrannical majority.

[WestCanMan]

On 8/16/2024 at 6:12 AM, User said:

How have I not been open?

See, instead of responding to what I say, you have to steer this discussion to absurdly mischaracterizing what I am doing. 

Never mind half the other lines of bad argument you have abandoned on here. 

Leftists have no real ammo for Kamala, so they're trying to make "IVF, OMG" into an election issue. *yawn*

[Matthew]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Leftists have no real ammo for Kamala, so they're trying to make "IVF, OMG" into an election issue. *yawn*

This subforum is about federal policies in the US.

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Matthew said:

This subforum is about federal policies in the US.

1. no one cares about the IVF "issue". It's just allowed and they're aren't enough dummies on both sides to stop it

2. don't think it's just conservatives against it.

David Suzuki is one of the furthest-left and most influential nutjobs that you'll ever find in Canada, and he has suggested that helping people overcome their fertility issues may be a step too far for science. "Playing God". 

I don't see how saving one's life when they're dying of cancer, and then having that person go on to have children, is any different from helping a woman with a fallopian tube issue, but you'd have to ask him about that.