Speaker Mike Johnson calls on Secret Service director to resign after assassination attempt on Trump

[Deluge]

Hopefully this happens. There should be ZERO room for DEI sluts at this level of government. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-johnson-calls-secret-service-director-resign-assassination-att-rcna162351

[CdnFox]

It was a pretty stunning failure. I mean, a kid who couldn't even make the high school shooting team because he sucks so bad who had no athletic abilities, no training, no opportunity for long-term planning and no special gear or even a camo outfit came within 2 inches of killing a former president and presidential candidate and succeeded in killing a local pillar of the community.

Somebody should have to pay for that.

 

[robosmith]

8 hours ago, Deluge said:

Hopefully this happens. There should be ZERO room for DEI sluts at this level of government. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-johnson-calls-secret-service-director-resign-assassination-att-rcna162351

Cause there's no room for a woman if they can get a white male, right?

Of course it was white males ON THE SCENE which actually screwed up, but you don't care about that cause you're DELUGINAL.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Cause there's no room for a woman if they can get a white male, right?

 

Because there's no room for an incompetent when they can get someone qualified

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Cause there's no room for a woman if they can get a white male, right?

Sorry, but she is the head of the department that embarrassingly failed. She should take the fall, vs point fingers.

There should be no reason for a failure like this in such a setting. This isn't a densely populated setting with tall buildings surrounding you.

This isn't a female, white, black or Democrat or Republicans idea.

Its the idea that, you should not be able to easily kill the world's best protected leaders.

Especially not, when your own agents were made aware of a suspicious person about 20 minutes prior to the shooting.

An hour had passed, after the first people flagged the local police.

Hate or love Trump, is irrelevant. This shouldn't happen to Trump, to Obama, to Biden. To anyone.

When you can easily take the life of a leader, America stops finding differences between it, and a third world country where this is the norm.

It also greatly undermines your democracy. 

[robosmith]

5 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Sorry, but she is the head of the department that embarrassingly failed. She should take the fall, vs point fingers.

There should be no reason for a failure like this in such a setting. This isn't a densely populated setting with tall buildings surrounding you.

This isn't a female, white, black or Democrat or Republicans idea.

Its the idea that, you should not be able to easily kill the world's best protected leaders.

Especially not, when your own agents were made aware of a suspicious person about 20 minutes prior to the shooting.

An hour had passed, after the first people flagged the local police.

Hate or love Trump, is irrelevant. This shouldn't happen to Trump, to Obama, to Biden. To anyone.

When you can easily take the life of a leader, America stops finding differences between it, and a third world country where this is the norm.

It also greatly undermines your democracy. 

The woman in DC wasn't directing the operations in PA. Maybe you believe she should have been, but that is ridiculous scapegoating.

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

The woman in DC wasn't directing the operations in PA. Maybe you believe she should have been, but that is ridiculous scapegoating.

She said the buck stops with her.

She also said that they couldn't put people on the sloped roof the shooter shot from because it was to dangerous. But, the snipers that shot him were on a sloped roof.

She also claimed they had drones in the air, but none of them seem to have seen the shooter?

She also didn't approve enough agents to secure the perimeter despite repeated requests from Trump's team and a supposed threat from Iran.

The president almost got shot, but yeah, its about her sex.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

The woman in DC wasn't directing the operations in PA.

That's making excuses.

She's the head of the security force, no? Then how is she not responsible for it? She wasn't there, physically?

Your server gives you dark black fries that are moldy, and you demand to speak to the owner.

You tell me the issue, and I tell you: "yeah, I hear you, but he's in the frying department. That's not my department".

Pardon my blackness showing, but: "B***H, you're the owner!"

People should either be feeling heat or that they are on the chopping block, when your number one client comes from inches from being killed. 

Thats like me owning Toyota, and millions of customers realizing the brakes don't work, when they pull their cars off the lot:

As the CEO, leadership 101. You don't want to let your clients know you're not the brake department.

You take the entire bullet, you are responsible for instilling confidence in your clients, that the service they are paying you heavily for, is something you're capable of doing.

Partisan politics don't belong in the realm of peoples actual lives. 

Vote against those you don't like.

Its a very dark day, when you can just poison or shoot opponents you don't like.

Calling Russia the enemy then, would be not only hypocritical, but laughable to boot.

[Deluge]

8 hours ago, robosmith said:

1. Cause there's no room for a woman if they can get a white male, right?

2. Of course it was white males ON THE SCENE which actually screwed up, but you don't care about that cause you're DELUGINAL.

1. No, racist. Because men are built for this kind of thing, and women aren't, as evidenced by the bumbling Belindas during that Trump rally. 

2. It's cucked white males on the scene. Most enforcement agencies have been hijacked by woke cultists. 

Edited July 18, 2024 by Deluge

[Guest]

It's insanely ridiculous to me, that those on the far left feel the world is better under their leadership, yet would be happy to see opponents die.

Would salivate at opinions they don't like, being silenced.

Free thinking is a threat. Logic, at times bigoted.

Sorry, but the world isn't a safe space. Trump totally s**ts on the idea that it is.

You will keep seeing leaders like him until you tone down the rhetoric, in line with what most Americans feel is the ideal country for them.

 

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

She said the buck stops with her.

She also said that they couldn't put people on the sloped roof the shooter shot from because it was to dangerous. But, the snipers that shot him were on a sloped roof.

She also claimed they had drones in the air, but none of them seem to have seen the shooter?

She also didn't approve enough agents to secure the perimeter despite repeated requests from Trump's team and a supposed threat from Iran.

The president almost got shot, but yeah, its about her sex.

The SS has already told you bolded is a LIE. Trump got the expanded SS presence due to the Iran threat.

ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

Donald Trump's Secret Service protection had been increased prior to assassination attempt due to Iran threat: Sources

1 day ago

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CNN

Exclusive: Secret Service ramped up security after intel of Iran plot to assassinate Trump; no known connection to shooting

1 day ago

---

AP News

Iran threat prompted more security at Trump rally as officials warn of potential for copycat attacks

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

That's making excuses.

She's the head of the security force, no? Then how is she not responsible for it? She wasn't there, physically?

Your server gives you dark black fries that are moldy, and you demand to speak to the owner.

You tell me the issue, and I tell you: "yeah, I hear you, but he's in the frying department. That's not my department".

Pardon my blackness showing, but: "B***H, you're the owner!"

People should either be feeling heat or that they are on the chopping block, when your number one client comes from inches from being killed. 

Thats like me owning Toyota, and millions of customers realizing the brakes don't work, when they pull their cars off the lot:

As the CEO, leadership 101. You don't want to let your clients know you're not the brake department.

You take the entire bullet, you are responsible for instilling confidence in your clients, that the service they are paying you heavily for, is something you're capable of doing.

Partisan politics don't belong in the realm of peoples actual lives. 

Vote against those you don't like.

Its a very dark day, when you can just poison or shoot opponents you don't like.

Calling Russia the enemy then, would be not only hypocritical, but laughable to boot.

You comparing the SS to a fast food manager is desperate and ridiculous.

As is the comparison to on the ground security operations to frying french fries. Pathetic.

[gatomontes99]

39 minutes ago, robosmith said:

The SS has already told you bolded is a LIE. Trump got the expanded SS presence due to the Iran threat.

ABC News - Breaking News, Latest News and Videos

Donald Trump's Secret Service protection had been increased prior to assassination attempt due to Iran threat: Sources

1 day ago

---

CNN

Exclusive: Secret Service ramped up security after intel of Iran plot to assassinate Trump; no known connection to shooting

1 day ago

---

AP News

Iran threat prompted more security at Trump rally as officials warn of potential for copycat attacks

So she lied three times above but the one you highlighted was magically true?

[User]

11 hours ago, robosmith said:

The woman in DC wasn't directing the operations in PA. Maybe you believe she should have been, but that is ridiculous scapegoating.

The woman in DC is out there BS'ing us with a sloped roof excuse after focusing her time on promoting DEI in the agency.  

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

The SS has already told you bolded is a LIE. Trump got the expanded SS presence due to the Iran threat.

A 97 lb pubescent kid with no skills or gear who was in broad daylight and visible to all just winged the former and likely future president during an election. 

I feel like iran may very well be able to match that kind of firepower. So clearly they didn't do enough. 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

You comparing the SS to a fast food manager is desperate and ridiculous.

Am comparing the taking responsibility for the company or service that you are responsible for. 

This failure literally cost a life. Of course it's not the same.

There is nothing desperate about it. 

She is the head, so as a good leader should take full ownership of the issue and step down, or be incredibly transparent of where her agency went wrong and the steps taken to avoid this from happening again.

An apology for the errors, wouldn't hurt either at instilling confidence. When your service isn't secret anymore because of its blunders, the desperation should be in getting that fixed.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said:

So she lied three times above but the one you highlighted was magically true?

The one I highlighted is the one I KNOW is TRUE. And the ONLY ONE which is important.

[robosmith]

43 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Am comparing the taking responsibility for the company or service that you are responsible for. 

This failure literally cost a life. Of course it's not the same.

There is nothing desperate about it. 

She is the head, so as a good leader should take full ownership of the issue and step down, or be incredibly transparent of where her agency went wrong and the steps taken to avoid this from happening again.

An apology for the errors, wouldn't hurt either at instilling confidence. When your service isn't secret anymore because of its blunders, the desperation should be in getting that fixed.

Comparing VERY COMPLEX operations to simple french frying is desperate.

Same as claiming Joe Biden is responsible for mistakes a drone pilot made in the dark. Ridiculous.

[User]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Same as claiming Joe Biden is responsible for mistakes a drone pilot made in the dark. Ridiculous.

He took credit for it... and then they let the story die when it came out he blew up a bunch of kids. 

 

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Comparing VERY COMPLEX operations to simple french frying is desperate.

You're distracting from your argument that she is somehow not responsible for the department that she is the head of.

Let's remove the argument, since it is triggering to you.

Forget the fries, or any other job or scenario.

The secret service, literally had one job. Literally. Protect the VIP.

They failed. Luck is the only reason he isn't dead. This is after several warnings were made by the crowd to officers, and even the secret service were made aware of the suspicious person. 

She (their head) scoffed at the thought of putting her men on a slanted roof, when pressed.

Ignoring that the individual crawled up, from the ground to get there. This is a massive failure. 

Her stance shouldn't be defensive. It should he humble and pragmatic. 

If am a body guard for someone I hate, my job is still to lay my life down to protect them. Its paramount that the agency hiring such people go to insanely extensive lengths to ensure the people hired are up to the task. All point to the head, to be swift and thorough at calming the rough waters.

Stop making it political. 

She didn't do her job as a leader, and their agency didn't do their job as bodyguards. Period.

23 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Same as claiming Joe Biden is responsible for mistakes a drone pilot made in the dark.

If the mistake that pilot made, caused significant collateral damage and was highly preventable, you are damn right he would be held responsible for it. Especially so, if he is the head commander in chief.

[Hodad]

7 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

That's making excuses.

She's the head of the security force, no? Then how is she not responsible for it? She wasn't there, physically?

Your server gives you dark black fries that are moldy, and you demand to speak to the owner.

You tell me the issue, and I tell you: "yeah, I hear you, but he's in the frying department. That's not my department".

Pardon my blackness showing, but: "B***H, you're the owner!"

People should either be feeling heat or that they are on the chopping block, when your number one client comes from inches from being killed. 

Thats like me owning Toyota, and millions of customers realizing the brakes don't work, when they pull their cars off the lot:

As the CEO, leadership 101. You don't want to let your clients know you're not the brake department.

You take the entire bullet, you are responsible for instilling confidence in your clients, that the service they are paying you heavily for, is something you're capable of doing.

Partisan politics don't belong in the realm of peoples actual lives. 

Vote against those you don't like.

Its a very dark day, when you can just poison or shoot opponents you don't like.

Calling Russia the enemy then, would be not only hypocritical, but laughable to boot.

I don't buy this reasoning at all. Every mistake in an organization does not and SHOULD not result in the firing or resignation of the head of the organization. 

The restaurant owner does not say "Oh, sorry you got bad fries. I guess I'll sell the restaurant."  No, at most they should fire the fry cook or the chef or whoever else should have had responsibility for that meal. 

Taking responsibility as a leader doesn't mean you stop leading. It means you make the changes to the organization (personnel or otherwise) to ensure that processes will be improved and mistakes will not be repeated.

Edited July 18, 2024 by Hodad

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, Hodad said:

I don't buy this reasoning at all. Every mistake in an organization does not and SHOULD not result in the firing or resignation of the head of the organization. 

The restaurant owner does not say "Oh, sorry you got bad fries. I guess I'll sell the restaurant."  No, at most they should fire the fry cook or the chef or whoever else should have had responsibility for that meal. 

Taking responsibility as a leader doesn't mean you stop leading. It means you make the changes to the organization (personnel or otherwise) to ensure that processes will be improved and mistakes will not be repeated.

Oh look, the leftie who hates trump doesn't think the head of the org that almost let him get killed should be responsible. 

Shocked.  Shocked i am. 

[reason10]

On 7/17/2024 at 4:19 PM, Deluge said:

Hopefully this happens. There should be ZERO room for DEI sluts at this level of government. 

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/speaker-johnson-calls-secret-service-director-resign-assassination-att-rcna162351

If it had been Obama or Unelected Joe getting a bullet to the ear, that director would have been arrested for attempted murder.

[gatomontes99]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

The one I highlighted is the one I KNOW is TRUE. And the ONLY ONE which is important.

Last year, I began hearing reports that his detail has been asking for more resources. This isn't a new charge. They were concerned that someone would try to assassinate him. That concern came from left wing rhetoric.

[Guest]

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

does not and SHOULD not result in the firing or resignation of the head of the organization

I clarified this. But key, is the head should take ownership for it.

So, no finger pointing.

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

The restaurant owner does not say "Oh, sorry you got bad fries. I guess I'll sell the restaurant." 

Nope, they take ownership. They apologize, and likely offer a makeup meal on the house, or a full refund, personally seeing to it that the customer is happy. 

AKA taking ownership of the poor service, and not making any excuses for the inexcusable.

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

Taking responsibility as a leader doesn't mean you stop leading.

Correct. Means you take the full bullet, and bring calm and confidence to the situation. 

She did neither. She deflected and pointed fingers. 

3 hours ago, Hodad said:

will be improved and mistakes will not be repeated.

The biggest things, is immediately accepted you came up short.