myata Posted Tuesday at 10:39 AM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:39 AM (edited) It's not his business to criticize the highest court in the country: that used to be a bad, no-no thing. The branches are critical parts of democracy, all of them. They are the face of the democracy, together: when one is diminished, the democracy itself suffers. He shouldn't undermine the democracy even further, in the sad state it is already. Why couldn't he get it? How did we come to forget it so fast? It's not about Joe. It's about America! Seems like he just couldn't get it. Oh oh. Looks like nobody gets it anymore. Or he can't think for himself anymore and someone is steering him from the shadows to a sad and dismal demise? Let's recall, Joe has to prove: to the people, these two things: 1) he's still a candidate that can be taken seriously, and 2) he's one of best candidates the sane America can put forward. It was supposed to be "the best" but OK, past that. Joe just wouldn't get it. He's deep into his own reality. Distractions and words won't work. Maybe Joe already decided subconsciously, to go down in flames and take it down with him and to f-ck with what's after? A cozy soft place and the memoirs, guaranteed? I can't tell. But it doesn't look like he either cares, or thinks or remembers that there will be things and there will be America after him. Joe is becoming a sad, caricature reflection of his arch-enemy by making it about himself. Is it past the point where we remember what it was supposed to be, and was about? What a f-ing mess is America's politics this days. A total failure of integrity vs. an accomplished failure of responsibility. Or is it America itself? Edited Tuesday at 11:45 AM by myata Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted Tuesday at 11:48 AM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 11:48 AM And yes, presidents should have some immunity for decisions in exercising their official duty as defined by the law. There isn't anything wrong with it, in general. We have to be able to keep our reason, and our minds: not handing them over either way. With our independent minds, the democracy goes as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 04:16 PM 5 hours ago, myata said: It's not his business to criticize the highest court in the country: that used to be a bad, no-no thing. The branches are critical parts of democracy, all of them. They are the face of the democracy, together: when one is diminished, the democracy itself suffers. He shouldn't undermine the democracy even further, in the sad state it is already. Why couldn't he get it? How did we come to forget it so fast? It's not about Joe. It's about America! Seems like he just couldn't get it. Oh oh. Looks like nobody gets it anymore. Or he can't think for himself anymore and someone is steering him from the shadows to a sad and dismal demise? Let's recall, Joe has to prove: to the people, these two things: 1) he's still a candidate that can be taken seriously, and 2) he's one of best candidates the sane America can put forward. It was supposed to be "the best" but OK, past that. Joe just wouldn't get it. He's deep into his own reality. Distractions and words won't work. Maybe Joe already decided subconsciously, to go down in flames and take it down with him and to f-ck with what's after? A cozy soft place and the memoirs, guaranteed? I can't tell. But it doesn't look like he either cares, or thinks or remembers that there will be things and there will be America after him. Joe is becoming a sad, caricature reflection of his arch-enemy by making it about himself. Is it past the point where we remember what it was supposed to be, and was about? What a f-ing mess is America's politics this days. A total failure of integrity vs. an accomplished failure of responsibility. Or is it America itself? Joe is going to RUN ON the corruption and extremism of this SCOTUS. NOTHING WRONG with that. He can do that because this SCOTUS has LOST the public's trust due to their blatant attempt at a massive shift to suit their POLITICS. Esp after their stated respect for stare decisis during confirmation, which was LYING. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 06:34 PM Branch against branch, head against head and citizen against citizen. Looks like no hope here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 09:09 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:09 PM 4 hours ago, robosmith said: Joe is going to RUN ON the corruption and extremism of this SCOTUS. NOTHING WRONG with that. He can do that because this SCOTUS has LOST the public's trust due to their blatant attempt at a massive shift to suit their POLITICS. Esp after their stated respect for stare decisis during confirmation, which was LYING. Have you noticed that Joe has nothing positive to run on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suds Posted Tuesday at 09:35 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:35 PM 10 hours ago, myata said: It's not his business to criticize the highest court in the country: that used to be a bad, no-no thing. So you don't like it when Biden criticizes the courts or when Trump criticizes the courts. I don't agree with you but at least you're consistent. There are few things in life that are above criticism and the justice system isn't one of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted Tuesday at 09:46 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:46 PM 7 minutes ago, suds said: There are few things in life that are above criticism and the justice system isn't one of them. No institution is infallible and citizens are free to disagree and criticize any of them. This is different as he is not just an average citizens but expresses an official position of a head of one branch of democratic power. When legitimacy of democratic institution is brought into question, the democracy suffers as a whole. We cannot chose one branch over another, it would cause a collapse of the entire construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted Tuesday at 09:48 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:48 PM 36 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Have you noticed that Joe has nothing positive to run on? No, cause I don't watch FOS LIES exclusively. It seems you've not heard about all the RepubliCON pols who are bragging about programs they VOTED AGAINST being delivered to their constituents. LMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted Tuesday at 09:52 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 09:52 PM 2 minutes ago, myata said: No institution is infallible and citizens are free to disagree and criticize any of them. This is different as he is not just an average citizens but expresses an official position of a head of one branch of democratic power. When legitimacy of democratic institution is brought into question, the democracy suffers as a whole. We cannot chose one branch over another, it would cause a collapse of the entire construction. When Joe criticizes the SCOTUS, it provides valuable feedback that they need to CHANGE COURSE. Of course the problem from that is the right winger JoSCOTUS don't GAS, cause they don't have to. It ALSO tells the voters that their choice for POTUS is RESPONSIBLE for the corruption and extremism on the current SCOTUS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
myata Posted Tuesday at 10:11 PM Author Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:11 PM 18 minutes ago, robosmith said: POTUS is RESPONSIBLE for the corruption and We (the citizens) cannot chose one branch over another, it would cause a collapse of the entire construction. Is Joe past getting that, I wonder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted Tuesday at 10:14 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:14 PM 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Have you noticed that Joe has nothing positive to run on? The only thing joe runs on is his sentences. And of course finally beating medicare. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 10:15 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:15 PM 4 minutes ago, robosmith said: No, cause I don't watch FOS LIES exclusively. It seems you've not heard about all the RepubliCON pols who are bragging about programs they VOTED AGAINST being delivered to their constituents. LMAO And Biden still has nothing positive to run on. 2 minutes ago, CdnFox said: The only thing joe runs on is his sentences. And of course finally beating medicare. I see what you did there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted Tuesday at 10:23 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:23 PM Joe biden: "enoyreve ees ot taerg s'ti ,gnineve siht ereh gnimoc rof uoy knahT" (aide turns telepropmpter correct way up) "Thank you for coming here this evening, it's great to see everyone" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted Tuesday at 10:28 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:28 PM 13 minutes ago, myata said: We (the citizens) cannot chose one branch over another, it would cause a collapse of the entire construction. Is Joe past getting that, I wonder? The POTUS chooses the JoSCOTUS and the voters choose the POTUS. Just like Trump in part got elected by promising to appoint JoSCOTUS who would kill RvW and Joe is promising the opposite as well as a national law to reverse the effects of the Dobbs decision. Are you past getting that? 13 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: And Biden still has nothing positive to run on. The RepubliCON pols bragging about delivering JOE'S PROGRAMS disagree. What you believe really doesn't matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 10:30 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:30 PM 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Joe biden: "enoyreve ees ot taerg s'ti ,gnineve siht ereh gnimoc rof uoy knahT" (aide turns telepropmpter correct way up) "Thank you for coming here this evening, it's great to see everyone" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 10:32 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:32 PM 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: The POTUS chooses the JoSCOTUS and the voters choose the POTUS. Just like Trump in part got elected by promising to appoint JoSCOTUS who would kill RvW and Joe is promising the opposite as well as a national law to reverse the effects of the Dobbs decision. Are you past getting that? The RepubliCON pols bragging about delivering JOE'S PROGRAMS disagree. What you believe really doesn't matter. He has nothing positive to run on. All he has is TDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:39 PM 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: He has nothing positive to run on. All he has is TDS. You're the one who is deranged. Thanks for demonstrating your IGNORANCE about the programs RepubliCON pols are taking credit for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 10:40 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:40 PM (edited) 1 minute ago, robosmith said: You're the one who is deranged. Thanks for demonstrating your IGNORANCE about the programs RepubliCON pols are taking credit for. Are you Joe Biden? You have nothing positive. All you have is TDS. Edited Tuesday at 10:41 PM by gatomontes99 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robosmith Posted Tuesday at 10:44 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:44 PM 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Are you Joe Biden? You have nothing positive. All you have is TDS. ^Tripling down on IGNORANT DRIVEL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legato Posted Tuesday at 10:47 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:47 PM (edited) 3 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^Tripling down on IGNORANT DRIVEL. At least he's not tippling Bud Light. Edited Tuesday at 10:48 PM by Legato Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Tuesday at 10:49 PM Report Share Posted Tuesday at 10:49 PM 2 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^Tripling down on IGNORANT DRIVEL. Trump's positives: Close the border to illegal crossings End the war in Ukraine Support Israel No tax on tips Let states handle abortion No men in women's locker rooms or mature sports Lower inflation Fewer regulations Opportunity zones Biden: I hate Trump and so should you! 2 minutes ago, Legato said: At least he's not tippling Bud Light. Yuengling light! Only because it is too hot for Shiner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted Wednesday at 12:43 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 12:43 AM 2 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Wow - you can actually see the moment he realizes he wasn't suppose to say that part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Wednesday at 01:09 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 01:09 AM 23 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Wow - you can actually see the moment he realizes he wasn't suppose to say that part Ron Burgandy is laughing and calling him an amateur. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CdnFox Posted Wednesday at 02:32 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:32 AM 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Ron Burgandy is laughing and calling him an amateur. LOL! The fact is the Meltdown that's going on on the left right now is absolutely unbelievable. The media is turning against the democrats because right now they look like complete and utter jackasses for insisting the Biden is perfectly fine. So to save their credibility they're claiming that they were lied to and that it's all the family's fault. Except for a handful who are trying to get behind the story and literally published an Insider report saying that Biden is generally fine between the hours of 10:00 and 4:00, but after that he gets tired and forgetful. That's their defense. He's pretty lucid between 10 and 4:00. As long as the enemies of the united states keep their attacks during working hours like that there should be no problem. As long as there's no crisis outside of those hours they don't see a problem with him continuing. Meanwhile the democrats are turning on the media and some of their biggest allies. They're sending letters around by email to all of their donors everywhere telling them not to listen to liberal supporting media sites that are saying that Biden is incompetent at all because they are vicious and spreading misinformation. These were their allies like 5 seconds ago. It's also clear that the degeneration is progressing at a significant pace. However bad he is right now, in a year he's going to be considerably worse. And worse again the year after. Basically a vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala Harris as president. Perhaps not shockingly she has come out saying we should continue to support Biden. I don't think there's any coming back from this. They have to hope and pray something really bad happens with trump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gatomontes99 Posted Wednesday at 02:50 AM Report Share Posted Wednesday at 02:50 AM 17 minutes ago, CdnFox said: LOL! The fact is the Meltdown that's going on on the left right now is absolutely unbelievable. The media is turning against the democrats because right now they look like complete and utter jackasses for insisting the Biden is perfectly fine. So to save their credibility they're claiming that they were lied to and that it's all the family's fault. Except for a handful who are trying to get behind the story and literally published an Insider report saying that Biden is generally fine between the hours of 10:00 and 4:00, but after that he gets tired and forgetful. That's their defense. He's pretty lucid between 10 and 4:00. As long as the enemies of the united states keep their attacks during working hours like that there should be no problem. As long as there's no crisis outside of those hours they don't see a problem with him continuing. Meanwhile the democrats are turning on the media and some of their biggest allies. They're sending letters around by email to all of their donors everywhere telling them not to listen to liberal supporting media sites that are saying that Biden is incompetent at all because they are vicious and spreading misinformation. These were their allies like 5 seconds ago. It's also clear that the degeneration is progressing at a significant pace. However bad he is right now, in a year he's going to be considerably worse. And worse again the year after. Basically a vote for Biden is a vote for Kamala Harris as president. Perhaps not shockingly she has come out saying we should continue to support Biden. I don't think there's any coming back from this. They have to hope and pray something really bad happens with trump All of this is by design. Do you think it's an accident they did this before the convention and before the ballot deadlines? Hell no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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