Trudeau - Canada's Greatest Cockwomble

[Guest]

I don't think its even close.

[CdnFox]

What's a 'cockwomble'?

According to the Urban Dictionary, 'cockwomble' is derogatory British slang for a person, usually male, who is prone to making outrageously stupid statements and-or inappropriate behaviour while having a very high opinion of their own wisdom and importance

 

FFS - the british are almost as bad as the Austrailians.  "I'da called it a wazzachukka!"

Anyway while there's a couple of people on this board who might at least be competitive  (eyeball, moonbox.... staaaaaaaaaare.....)  I think that yes, we'd probably have to give it to trudeau. 

"the budget will balance itself."  "i admire china's dictatorship"  "forgive me for not thining about monetary policy while i'm thinking about familes."  - i mean that guy could Cockwomble for the olympics. 

 

 

[Guest]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

"forgive me for not thining about monetary policy while i'm thinking about familes."

This one to me, is by far his best work.

Other than putting a house addition on a credit card, being a wise way to stimulate the economy.

I have had drug addicts approach me with wiser words.

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

This one to me, is by far his best work.

It's a classic for sure

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Other than putting a house addition on a credit card, being a wise way to stimulate the economy.

I have had drug addicts approach me with wiser words.

 

LOL  i forgot about that one   There's just so many!

Remeber after he got elected as leader and harper said in the house during qp  that he was "Trying to make taxes fair for everyone"  And Trudeau replied "Mr Speaker,  Taxes aren't SUPPOSED to be FAIR!!!!!!"

Harper facepalmed and mumbled  "and this is what happens every time you go off script"  

 

[ExFlyer]

All political leaders are in negative places in latest poll.

it does not matter who is disliked the most, the fact is all are in the negative area.

"As of April 2024, the pollster determined, the most popular federal party leader, Pierre Poilievre of the opposition Conservatives, has a net rating of -12 points, calculated by combining favourability with unfavourabililty in polling numbers.

And he’s the most popular. New Democratic Party leader Jagmeet Singh has a net rating of -14, which is his worst ever in seven years as party leader. And Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of the governing Liberals has a net approval rating that is downright chilly at -38."

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/trudeau-singh-have-led-their-parties-to-50-year-low-poll-numbers-study

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

All political leaders are in negative places in latest poll.

it does not matter who is disliked the most, the fact is all are in the negative area.

"As of April 2024, the pollster determined, the most popular federal party leader, Pierre Poilievre of the opposition Conservatives, has a net rating of -12 points, calculated by combining favourability with unfavourabililty in polling numbers.

And he’s the most popular. New Democratic Party leader Jagmeet Singh has a net rating of -14, which is his worst ever in seven years as party leader. And Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of the governing Liberals has a net approval rating that is downright chilly at -38."

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/trudeau-singh-have-led-their-parties-to-50-year-low-poll-numbers-study

Speaking generally I would say that that has more to do with the public dislike of politicians right now in general.

However it's important to understand the nature of the metric that you are quoting. All that means is there are slightly more people who dislike a given leader then who like them. But all that really talks about is the polarization of our current political structure. 

And from that perspective it absolutely does matter who is the most popular. Of course, popularity does not translate into votes. There are many cases where people don't like someone but still want them to run the country. Harper never was the most popular as far as I remember, but he still won election after election. That was because people believe that even though he was a jerk he was the best leader.

But popularity does have an impact and it is an important metric. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

All political leaders are in negative places in latest poll.

Some are treading water. Some are drowning.

In politics 101, best to be treading water.

[ExFlyer]

2 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Some are treading water. Some are drowning.

In politics 101, best to be treading water.

Yup.

Bottom line , as I understand, there are no winners, just not as bad as the other losers.

Sad when the present leader and his puppet are so bad yet the only opposition still achieves negative ratings.

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Speaking generally I would say that that has more to do with the public dislike of politicians right now in general.

However it's important to understand the nature of the metric that you are quoting. All that means is there are slightly more people who dislike a given leader then who like them. But all that really talks about is the polarization of our current political structure. 

And from that perspective it absolutely does matter who is the most popular. Of course, popularity does not translate into votes. There are many cases where people don't like someone but still want them to run the country. Harper never was the most popular as far as I remember, but he still won election after election. That was because people believe that even though he was a jerk he was the best leader.

But popularity does have an impact and it is an important metric. 

Bottom line, is PP is not as worshipped as some on this forum make him out to be.

[Moonbox]

On 5/25/2024 at 11:29 AM, CdnFox said:

Anyway while there's a couple of people on this board who might at least be competitive  (eyeball, moonbox.... staaaaaaaaaare.....)  I think that yes, we'd probably have to give it to trudeau. 

Even when we're not part of a thread, we're still living rent-free in the mind of our forum's biggest no-life.  😆

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

 

Bottom line, is PP is not as worshipped as some on this forum make him out to be.

Really    Who said he was worshipped?  

I know i said his popularity is rising and he is popular. And he is  

Sounds like liberal sour grapes    

7 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Even when we're not part of a thread, we're still living rent-free in the mind of our forum's biggest no-life.  😆

I'm sure you love to think that  in order to validate your rather pathetic performances   But being my favorite forum clowns doesn't represent 'free rent'.  I quite liked seifeild for a while - now i watch you  

[ExFlyer]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Really    Who said he was worshipped?  

I know i said his popularity is rising and he is popular. And he is  

Sounds like liberal sour grapes    

I'm sure you love to think that  in order to validate your rather pathetic performances   But being my favorite forum clowns doesn't represent 'free rent'.  I quite liked seifeild for a while - now i watch you  

OMG...you surely do not want me to post that selfie of you coming out of PP's rear again do you LOL

Again, disagree with you and a person is a liberal.... you are falling further and further down that 1diot hole again. LOL

[Moonbox]

12 hours ago, CdnFox said:

I'm sure you love to think that  in order to validate your rather pathetic performances   But being my favorite forum clowns doesn't represent 'free rent'. 

What I think about it doesn't matter.  The fact is that I wasn't part of this thread, hadn't posted in over a day, but you still felt compelled to bring me up in this nothing of a thread.  🙃 

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

OMG...you surely do not want me to post that selfie of you coming out of PP's rear again do you LOL

 

ROFLMAO !!!!!  Only you would think that posting ass porn from your own collection and pretending it's me somehow would win an argument  LOLOL

Again, disagree with you and a person is a liberal.... you are falling further and further down that 1diot hole again. LOL

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Again, disagree with you and a person is a liberal.

Seinfeild?  Jerry Seinfeild is an american, so he's a dem or republican. They don't have a 'liberal' party in the states   And if you disagree he was funny that's fine but a lot of people disagree with you, it's not that uncommon a position   

LOL - we've talked about the dangers of drinking cough syrup first thing in the morning haven't we?

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

you are falling further and further down that 1diot hole

Says the guy who's trying to win the discussion with ass porn     What is it with you and 'holes' anyway?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Moonbox said:

What I think about it doesn't matter. 

That's pretty much true all the time as it turns out   But i'm glad to see you being more self aware. 

 

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The fact is that I wasn't part of this thread, hadn't posted in over a day, but you still felt compelled to bring me up in this nothing of a thread.  🙃 

Sure,  i laugh about you quite a bit    Something reminds me of something stupid  you did or said and I laugh  just like something reminds me of something Jerry said and i laugh  

We were talking about cockwombles, you fit the definition perfectly, so of COURSE your name is going to come up.  

[Moonbox]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Sure,  i laugh about you quite a bit    Something reminds me of something stupid  you did or said and I laugh  just like something reminds me of something Jerry said and i laugh  

If you say so.  

Nobody thinks about you at all when they're not witnessing your latest self-defecation.  🙄

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

ROFLMAO !!!!!  Only you would think that posting ass porn from your own collection and pretending it's me somehow would win an argument  LOLOL

Again, disagree with you and a person is a liberal.... you are falling further and further down that 1diot hole again. LOL

Seinfeild?  Jerry Seinfeild is an american, so he's a dem or republican. They don't have a 'liberal' party in the states   And if you disagree he was funny that's fine but a lot of people disagree with you, it's not that uncommon a position   

LOL - we've talked about the dangers of drinking cough syrup first thing in the morning haven't we?

Says the guy who's trying to win the discussion with ass porn     What is it with you and 'holes' anyway?

I can't respond to this conversation. It is far too erratic and nonsensical. 

I'm happy to help with other questions you might have.

[Army Guy]

On 5/26/2024 at 12:49 PM, ExFlyer said:

All political leaders are in negative places in latest poll.

it does not matter who is disliked the most, the fact is all are in the negative area.

"As of April 2024, the pollster determined, the most popular federal party leader, Pierre Poilievre of the opposition Conservatives, has a net rating of -12 points, calculated by combining favourability with unfavourabililty in polling numbers.

And he’s the most popular. New Democratic Party leader Jagmeet Singh has a net rating of -14, which is his worst ever in seven years as party leader. And Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of the governing Liberals has a net approval rating that is downright chilly at -38."

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/trudeau-singh-have-led-their-parties-to-50-year-low-poll-numbers-study

This is the kind of info that is mout really, ...nobody cares if the person is liked or not...what matters is how many Canadians are going to vote for your party...in this case the Conservatives have a huge majority lead in the polls as of today...and for many reasons the majority of Canadians are sick or feed up with Justin...my pet hamster could outperform Justin in the polls becasue of that very reason....and some of those that voted NDP are most likely parking their vote or voting conservative for those same reasons...

At the end of the day, providing Conservatives do not step on their own di*k , they will be the next government...Now will anyone like PP after election, who cares...to be honest i will be judge him  by his performance, i don't envy him at all , Justin has coc* a lot of things up and it is going to take a long while to fix all of that. 

[CdnFox]

25 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

If you say so.  

Nobody thinks about you at all when they're not witnessing your latest self-defecation.  🙄

Of course not. I don't say anything nearly as stupid or hilarious as you.  

21 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

I can't respond to this conversation. It is far too erratic and nonsensical. 

 

You threaten to post more of your ass porn as your argument and then complain that it's become irrational ? LOLOL

Well ok there big guy  

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

in this case the Conservatives have a huge majority lead in the polls as of today...and for many reasons the majority of Canadians are sick or feed up with Justin...my pet hamster could outperform Justin in the polls becasue of that very reason....and some of those that voted NDP are most likely parking their vote or voting conservative for those same reasons...

 

Well the fact is that if it were that simple the votes would be getting parked with the ndp.   For traditional ndp supporters to go with the conservatives means that there's probably something that is attracting them. IF it's not personality then it's likely policy or at least the perception that the CPC understands their situation and is willing ot do something about it. 

back in harper's day I used the phrase frequently that "if you don't have a charismatic man you better have a charismatic plan". And I think that Poilievre kind of has a little bit of both going on. People either like him or they like what he's saying

It is important in the sense that while everybody thinks that "People don't vote in governments they just vote them out" The evidence is crystal clear that that is not true as a rule. People need to believe in what they're going to at least a little bit. Otherwise they stay with the devil they know even if it's bad.

If it were just a case of them hating trudeau then it might be possible for the conservative support to collapse very suddenly and with little prompting, kind of like what we saw with Aaron during the last election.

However, it seems that people are buying into Poilievre either because they like what he thinks or they like him personally or both in some cases. That is much more resilient

[Army Guy]

3 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Well the fact is that if it were that simple the votes would be getting parked with the ndp.   For traditional ndp supporters to go with the conservatives means that there's probably something that is attracting them. IF it's not personality then it's likely policy or at least the perception that the CPC understands their situation and is willing ot do something about it. 

back in harper's day I used the phrase frequently that "if you don't have a charismatic man you better have a charismatic plan". And I think that Poilievre kind of has a little bit of both going on. People either like him or they like what he's saying

It is important in the sense that while everybody thinks that "People don't vote in governments they just vote them out" The evidence is crystal clear that that is not true as a rule. People need to believe in what they're going to at least a little bit. Otherwise they stay with the devil they know even if it's bad.

If it were just a case of them hating trudeau then it might be possible for the conservative support to collapse very suddenly and with little prompting, kind of like what we saw with Aaron during the last election.

However, it seems that people are buying into Poilievre either because they like what he thinks or they like him personally or both in some cases. That is much more resilient

My bet is most NDP voters will park their vote, meaning abstain from voting, they feel betrayed by sing, and like everyone dislike justin...I mean i don't think to many conservative policies are attracting NDP voters to be honest...maybe the fringe NDP voters perhaps. 

I think there is a lack of choices, justin and sing are not going any where except down with the ship...PP is not my first choice as leader, but he is all we have right now...which is going to explain a lot of his polling numbers...

I didn't vote last election becasue i did not trust the candidate, there is always that choice...

In politics anything can happen, Justin lack of performance has got him where he is now...things change very fast in politics...

I think there is a lot more to ity than just liking the man...like the poll said he is not very popular as a person...but his party is popular becasue of many reasons , one of them is lack of choices on the other parties, their job performance is crappy, their inability to get anything done really sucks...they have created more problems than they have solved...and the amount of scandals have reached new record levels, the rest of the list goes on and on ...PP really has not laid out in any detail HOW he is going to fix everything...i think once he lays out those plans that will be the moment that will make or break him...

[taxme]

On 5/25/2024 at 8:29 AM, CdnFox said:

What's a 'cockwomble'?

According to the Urban Dictionary, 'cockwomble' is derogatory British slang for a person, usually male, who is prone to making outrageously stupid statements and-or inappropriate behaviour while having a very high opinion of their own wisdom and importance

 

FFS - the british are almost as bad as the Austrailians.  "I'da called it a wazzachukka!"

Anyway while there's a couple of people on this board who might at least be competitive  (eyeball, moonbox.... staaaaaaaaaare.....)  I think that yes, we'd probably have to give it to trudeau. 

"the budget will balance itself."  "i admire china's dictatorship"  "forgive me for not thining about monetary policy while i'm thinking about familes."  - i mean that guy could Cockwomble for the olympics. 

 

 

And do not forget to say "peoplekind".

What an imbecile of a PM that we have going for us all. I wish the buffoon would call an election and let's see if Canadians are with the imbecile and his nonsense and foolish WEF globalist Marxist programs and agendas. 

Come on, Trudeau, call an election now. Works for me. 

[CdnFox]

26 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

My bet is most NDP voters will park their vote, meaning abstain from voting, they feel betrayed by sing, and like everyone dislike justin...I mean i don't think to many conservative policies are attracting NDP voters to be honest...maybe the fringe NDP voters perhaps. 

You'd be surprised. A lot of younger people who would normally vote NDP are realizing that the current unaffordable situation is a direct result of the left-wing policies that Trudeau and the NDP are pushing. They see that they will be stuck in their mother's basements till they're 50 and that they won't be able to afford to go on worldwide trips or have their own home or any of that stuff and they're getting fed up. Woke is not looking as good as it once did for these kids

We could very well see both happen. A significant move to the CPC side for many NDP voters, combined with the rest of them staying at home. We saw something similar in Ontario in the last provincial election where motors tended to either Move from the lips and NDP to the conservatives, or just stay home and the NDP and liberals got slaughtered.

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I think there is a lack of choices, justin and sing are not going any where except down with the ship...PP is not my first choice as leader, but he is all we have right now...which is going to explain a lot of his polling numbers...

I didn't vote last election becasue i did not trust the candidate, there is always that choice...

Yeah but you kind of proved my point there. If a party didn't have something to attract you to them, then you would probably just say you were still a xXX supporter and stay home and not vote. But the polling is indicating that these kids are moving to the CPC and intend to vote that way.

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In politics anything can happen, Justin lack of performance has got him where he is now...things change very fast in politics.

Sure, especially in Canada..

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I think there is a lot more to ity than just liking the man...like the poll said he is not very popular as a person...but his party is popular becasue of many reasons , one of them is lack of choices on the other parties, their job performance is crappy, their inability to get anything done really sucks...they have created more problems than they have solved...and the amount of scandals have reached new record levels, the rest of the list goes on and on ...PP really has not laid out in any detail HOW he is going to fix everything...i think once he lays out those plans that will be the moment that will make or break him...

Anything's possible. But to be honest I think that as long as the plans he lays out seem at least vaguely possible people will be satisfied and will vote for him. I think right now they want to believe that he's competent. They may not like him as a person all that much but they think he is talented enough to deliver. They may not like everything he stands for but they believe that he can bring back economic Prosperity. They're just looking for some reason to confirm that, and that will be at election time of course. 

Anything can happen. Campaigns matter and they can make all the difference so nobody can say for sure. We'll see