User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 8 hours ago, Aristides said: Don’t be an ass and don’t complain when they grow into gang bangers because their poor single mom couldn’t raise them to your standard. So, you support killing 5-year-olds of single mothers so they don't grow into gang bangers? Quote
Aristides Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 1 hour ago, User said: So, you support killing 5-year-olds of single mothers so they don't grow into gang bangers? Is that all you have left for an argument? Pathetic. Quote
User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Aristides said: Is that all you have left for an argument? Pathetic. No more pathetic than what you offered. It was in direct response to your comments. You are here trying to justify killing babies, and when I ask you to apply that same logic to killing 5-year-olds... you can't respond. I presume it's because you know I have pointed out the absurdity of your position. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 37 minutes ago, User said: No more pathetic than what you offered. It was in direct response to your comments. You are here trying to justify killing babies, and when I ask you to apply that same logic to killing 5-year-olds... you can't respond. I presume it's because you know I have pointed out the absurdity of your position. Such a hypocrite, so concerned about a foetus but could care less about what happens to them after they are born. Force more people into poverty but your conscience is clear. Quote
User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: Such a hypocrite, so concerned about a foetus but could care less about what happens to them after they are born. Force more people into poverty but your conscience is clear. This is just a complete fabrication on your part. Where did I say anything here about caring less about what happens after they are born? My position is quite consistent. I think it is just as wrong to kill children after they are born as it is before they are born for the mere convenience of it. No hypocrisy here on my part. A lot of dishonesty on yours though. What does poverty have to do with anything? Are you now advocating that we kill children in poverty? Quote
Aristides Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 2 hours ago, User said: So, you support killing 5-year-olds of single mothers so they don't grow into gang bangers? Truth hurts, doesn’t it. 5 minutes ago, User said: This is just a complete fabrication on your part. Where did I say anything here about caring less about what happens after they are born? My position is quite consistent. I think it is just as wrong to kill children after they are born as it is before they are born for the mere convenience of it. No hypocrisy here on my part. A lot of dishonesty on yours though. What does poverty have to do with anything? Are you now advocating that we kill children in poverty? You want to push your ideology on others over an issue that can never affect you personally. That’s hypocrisy. Quote
User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 27 minutes ago, Aristides said: Truth hurts, doesn’t it. What truth is it that allegedly hurts? 27 minutes ago, Aristides said: You want to push your ideology on others over an issue that can never affect you personally. That’s hypocrisy. That is not the definition of what constitutes hypocrisy. That aside, we find many things illegal and wrong that do not affect us personally. If someone murders you... that doesn't impact me personally. Should I be OK with that and want it to be legal? No. Quote
Aristides Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 39 minutes ago, User said: What truth is it that allegedly hurts? That is not the definition of what constitutes hypocrisy. That aside, we find many things illegal and wrong that do not affect us personally. If someone murders you... that doesn't impact me personally. Should I be OK with that and want it to be legal? No. Abortion cannot affect you because you are a guy and that makes it really easy for you to be righteous. IMO, men should butt out of the abortion debate and let women decide. Quote
User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: Abortion cannot affect you because you are a guy and that makes it really easy for you to be righteous. IMO, men should butt out of the abortion debate and let women decide. Someone murdering you won't affect me either. So... Quote
CdnFox Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 41 minutes ago, Aristides said: Abortion cannot affect you because you are a guy and that makes it really easy for you to be righteous. IMO, men should butt out of the abortion debate and let women decide. One of the most sexist comments i think i've seen on this board. You're literally saying males are not affected by the death of one of their children. I would invite you to threaten to kill any guy's child and see if it affects him or not. Or go talk to any guy who's lost his child in an accident or to foul play. What a disgusting thing to say. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Aristides Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: Someone murdering you won't affect me either. So... You can be murdered too but you can't have an abortion. All you care about is a foetus, you don't really care what happens to them after they are born. That's someone else's problem. Edited May 30, 2024 by Aristides Quote
User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 1 minute ago, Aristides said: You can be murdered too but you can't have an abortion. That was not your standard. Your standard was: "cannot affect you" I could have been aborted... abortions could impact anyone. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 1 minute ago, User said: That was not your standard. Your standard was: "cannot affect you" I could have been aborted... abortions could impact anyone. You would force a woman to have a child, no one can force you to have one. Quote
CdnFox Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 2 minutes ago, Aristides said: You would force a woman to have a child, no one can force you to have one. And if you do choose to have a kid then they force you to take care of it! The nerve!! You hear not even allowed to let it starve even if it's inconvenient to take the time to feed it! They can't force you to take care of your own children!!! Listen to yourself. If the thing inside the woman is a human being then they absolutely can force you to give birth unless you can demonstrate that your own life will be at significant risk in doing so. Parents always have a duty of care to their children. And we don't murder children because murdering children is bad. I am stunned that this needs to be explained to you. Assuming that a fetus is a human being what is the difference between killing it 10 minutes before birth or 10 minutes after birth? Or 10 days after birth? Or 10 months? It is an absolutely insane argument that has absolutely no validity We can discuss when a fetus becomes a human being, But once that happens then killing it is wrong and if that inconvenience is the mother that's just too damn bad. 1 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: You would force a woman to have a child, no one can force you to have one. No one is forcing a woman to have to have sex and get pregnant against her will. And tons of laws are on the books "forcing" both parents to care for their children—child support... etc. You keep dancing as I keep defeating each of your asinine arguments. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 Just now, User said: No one is forcing a woman to have to have sex and get pregnant against her will. And tons of laws are on the books "forcing" both parents to care for their children—child support... etc. You keep dancing as I keep defeating each of your asinine arguments. Men can take get away with taking no responsibility. So there are laws, how do does someone on welfare afford lawyers to get them enforced and you assume the guy will be in a position to pay. Bottom line is the woman gets stuck with the consequences. Many ensurers will cover Viagra but not contraceptives. Quote
User Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 4 minutes ago, Aristides said: Men can take get away with taking no responsibility. So there are laws, how do does someone on welfare afford lawyers to get them enforced and you assume the guy will be in a position to pay. Bottom line is the woman gets stuck with the consequences. Many ensurers will cover Viagra but not contraceptives. No, some Men are able to get away with it, but there are robust laws on the books that compel men to provide child support and garnish their wages. Men "get away with it" but abscond from the law, working for cash underground and hiding. They are hardly getting away with it, they are criminals hiding and ostracized from normal society. You do not need to pay for lawyers to do these things, the legal system is set up to help those who need it. So... is it your argument now that a woman can kill her 5 year old if the father is not helping? Almost all major insurance covers birth control, it is mandated by law. 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 33 minutes ago, Aristides said: Men can take get away with taking no responsibility. So there are laws, how do does someone on welfare afford lawyers to get them enforced there are entire government agencies designed to do this for women for free. Just one lie after another from you Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
gatomontes99 Posted May 30, 2024 Author Report Posted May 30, 2024 And we ended up on abortion because they couldn't support the b.s. accusation that the flag they flew was somehow disqualifying. Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CdnFox Posted May 30, 2024 Report Posted May 30, 2024 3 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: And we ended up on abortion because they couldn't support the b.s. accusation that the flag they flew was somehow disqualifying. Yes, of the two the flag is the real moral issue here according to them 🙄 Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
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