Are You Racist?

[User]

15 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

I said 'for starters". The reason those other cultures are distinct is because much of what defines those cultures in a North American context is their relation to the hegemony of whiteness. Eg you can't really talk about African American culture without talking about slavery, Indigenous culture without colonization,

That was a pretty lousy place to start. That should not have even been on the list. Now you are making a circular argument, presuming they are "cultures" to respond. 

What makes them cultures? You have yet actually to answer this. 

There is no such thing as "African American culture"

Someone else here made this silly argument, let me copy and past my response to you here:

"Skin color has no culture. There is no black(African American) culture. 

I was in the military and served with black people from all over the country and world. I served with a guy from Nigeria and a guy from the South. Their cultures were worlds apart. One of them was basically a redneck driving a pickup truck and the other from a tribal culture who could speak something like 10 different languages. 

I now have a friend from Malawi and another from the rural midwest... you think they both have some "black culture?" they share? Nope. "

19 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No one would define it as such, you're lazy.

Then you are lazy, I was just mirroring your stupid answer to show you how it was stupid. 

[Black Dog]

14 minutes ago, User said:

That was a pretty lousy place to start. That should not have even been on the list. Now you are making a circular argument, presuming they are "cultures" to respond. 

What makes them cultures? You have yet actually to answer this. 

 

The same thing that makes any culture a culture: a distinct set of shared experiences, practices, expressions, traditions etc etc.

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There is no such thing as "African American culture"

One of the most moronic statements you've made and that's saying something.

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Someone else here made this silly argument, let me copy and past my response to you here:

"Skin color has no culture. There is no black(African American) culture. 

I was in the military and served with black people from all over the country and world. I served with a guy from Nigeria and a guy from the South. Their cultures were worlds apart. One of them was basically a redneck driving a pickup truck and the other from a tribal culture who could speak something like 10 different languages. 

I now have a friend from Malawi and another from the rural midwest... you think they both have some "black culture?" they share? Nope. "

This response you think is clever is actually quite retarded because Black culture in a North American context is specifically about Black Americans, so obviously that would not include Africans from Nigeria or wherever else. 

Honestly you guys are so stupid and intellectually incurious, you don't do the bare minimum to try and understand the arguments you're pretending to engage with. 

Edited May 28, 2024 by Black Dog

[User]

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

The same thing that makes any culture a culture: a distinct set of shared experiences, practices, expressions, traditions etc etc.

So, that would apply just as much to White people as you are using it here. 

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

One of the most moronic statements you've made and that's saying something.

Not at all. 

8 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

This response you think is clever is actually quite retarded because Black culture in a North American context is specifically about Black Americans, so obviously that would not include Africans from Nigeria or wherever else. 

Honestly you guys are so stupid and intellectually incurious, you don't do the bare minimum to try and understand the arguments you're pretending to engage with. 

So... you think all black Americans only originated in America?

Speaking of moronic statements... the person I served with from Nigeria, was an American. The person I know from Malawi, is an American. The black people I mentioned from the south... are Americans and a black person from the rural midwest doesn't have any shared experiences with a black person from inner city Chicago and even then, a black person in Chicago can have vastly different experiences from all sorts of black people from around Chicago. 

[impartialobserver]

I would agree that there is no explicit "white" culture.. you have to be a bit more specific and say, "American, Canadian, Dutch, Greek, Eastern European" etc.

[User]

1 minute ago, impartialobserver said:

I would agree that there is no explicit "white" culture.. you have to be a bit more specific and say, "American, Canadian, Dutch, Greek, Eastern European" etc.

And that has nothing to do with race then... those are nationalities or geographical locations. White people, Black people, Asian, Hispanic... would all have the same culture from those areas. 

[Black Dog]

4 minutes ago, User said:

So, that would apply just as much to White people as you are using it here. 

No because "white people" don't have any of those things.

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Not at all. 

Not a rebuttal.

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So... you think all black Americans only originated in America?

No dummy. Black culture did.

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Speaking of moronic statements... the person I served with from Nigeria, was an American. The person I know from Malawi, is an American. 

Again it's honestly impressive how hard you work to completely fail to understand the ideas here. Do you actually think the existence of immigrants today negates the existence of a larger culture that developed from enslaved Africans 250 years ago?

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The black people I mentioned from the south... are Americans and a black person from the rural midwest doesn't have any shared experiences with a black person from inner city Chicago and even then, a black person in Chicago can have vastly different experiences from all sorts of black people from around Chicago. 

Really, hey? Not a single shared experience, cultural reference, anything at all? Sounds pretty stupid.

[User]

12 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No because "white people" don't have any of those things.

White people have "a distinct set of shared experiences, practices, expressions, traditions etc etc."  just as much as any other race does. 

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Not a rebuttal.

Neither was what you said anything more than a baseless assertion. 

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No dummy. Black culture did.

So... now you are back to race again. There are no black people anywhere else in the world with culture other than America now?

14 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Again it's honestly impressive how hard you work to completely fail to understand the ideas here. Do you actually think the existence of immigrants today negates the existence of a larger culture that developed from enslaved Africans 250 years ago?

This is your failure, not mine. You keep defining the terms, I just point out the stupidity of what you are saying. 

So, now you are down to very specifically saying there is a culture that exists for only black people who very specifically are descendants of slavery in America. 

As I already pointed out before... someone could be a descendant of a slave and live in rural midwest and another in inner city Chicago. They do not share a culture. 

17 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Really, hey? Not a single shared experience, cultural reference, anything at all? Sounds pretty stupid.

Shared experience? Just as much as with a white person... or Hispanic, or Asian... Race has next to nothing to do with it at that point. 

[Black Dog]

Just now, User said:

White people have "a distinct set of shared experiences, practices, expressions, traditions etc etc."  just as much as any other race does. 

No, they really don't.

Neither was what you said anything more than a baseless assertion. 

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So... now you are back to race again. There are no black people anywhere else in the world with culture other than America now?

Holy cow you're dim, this has already been explained.

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This is your failure, not mine. You keep defining the terms, I just point out the stupidity of what you are saying. 

No the failure here is your inability to grasp a pretty simple concept even after it's been explained.

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So, now you are down to very specifically saying there is a culture that exists for only black people who very specifically are descendants of slavery in America. 

No and you're very dumb for thinking that.

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As I already pointed out before... someone could be a descendant of a slave and live in rural midwest and another in inner city Chicago. They do not share a culture. 

Insane thing to think that they would share absolutely no culture.

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Shared experience? Just as much as with a white person... or Hispanic, or Asian... Race has next to nothing to do with it at that point. 

Again, there's no shared white experience. 

[User]

46 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No, they really don't.

How don't they?

46 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Holy cow you're dim, this has already been explained.

Clearly not. Again, calling me names doesn't make your dumb arguments any better. 

47 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No the failure here is your inability to grasp a pretty simple concept even after it's been explained.

You don't understand the difference between a rejection of your bad arguments and a failure to grasp them. I understand what you are saying. I reject it. There is a difference. 

48 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

No and you're very dumb for thinking that.

No, your argument was dumb. 

48 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Insane thing to think that they would share absolutely no culture.

No, I am sure they do share "some" culture, just not anything because of their skin color like you are trying to claim. Just like they could share that culture with a white dude too. 

50 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Again, there's no shared white experience. 

Just as much as there is a shared black one... 

[Black Dog]

49 minutes ago, User said:

How don't they?

Specific "white" ethnic or national subgroups do. White people don't.

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Clearly not. Again, calling me names doesn't make your dumb arguments any better.

Clearly it has.

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You don't understand the difference between a rejection of your bad arguments and a failure to grasp them. I understand what you are saying. I reject it. There is a difference. 

No, you clearly don't understand, because your counter arguments betray your ignorance.

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No, your argument was dumb. 

I doubt you could even explain it let alone understand it.

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No, I am sure they do share "some" culture, just not anything because of their skin color like you are trying to claim. Just like they could share that culture with a white dude too. 

LOL right, sure.

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Just as much as there is a shared black one... 

 

There is a shared Black experience tho.

[taxme]

7 hours ago, Black Dog said:

How many times do I have to tell you that you aren't racist because you have pride in being white =(though that's pretty sus and a stupid thing to be proud of) but because of your repeated statements claiming the white race is superior. Like how stupid are you? 

You're not very original.

No because those are cultures, "white" isn't a culture.

That has nothing to do with white people as a group and everything to do with you being a retarded piece of trash.

lol triggered.

Look Princess, how many times does a dummy like you have to be told that there is nothing wrong with someone DARING to say that they have pride in their own white race. So, just where have i ever said that the white people are superior? Verbatim, please. 

You're not very bright for a white guy. Actually, you appear to be one of those brain dead woke left wing liberal white dummies that are out there by the thousands. You give white people a bad name, Princess. 

So, according to you, native Indian culture, black culture or Asian culture are cultures, but white people isn't and have no culture. You lefties never make much sense ever. You need to think before you speak, Princess. 

Long live the white race and culture. 

Nope, not triggered at all. Just trying to put up with your stupid dummy leftist woke replies all the time, Princess. 🤡

[taxme]

6 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

Just because someone engages in a braindead act.. does not mean i should or have the right to. To be proud of something that you have no control over is hollow and meaningless. It appears that you fit this characterization. So all we need to know about you is that you are white? What you done, what you achieved, where you have been.. etc. are of no value to you yourself. All you want us to know about you is that you are white (and not of your own doing) and proud of it.. 

Yessiree, I am proud to be white and i am still waiting for a White History Month to be declared. Don't like me saying so, well STFU and just go away. Works for me. 😁

Brain dead acts is all i seem to get from some people like you here who seems to feel that because some white guy like myself would like to have a White History Month declared just seems meaningless to you and that i should just quit with the idea and just go away. Good luck, fella. 🤣

[taxme]

1 hour ago, User said:

How don't they?

Clearly not. Again, calling me names doesn't make your dumb arguments any better. 

You don't understand the difference between a rejection of your bad arguments and a failure to grasp them. I understand what you are saying. I reject it. There is a difference. 

No, your argument was dumb. 

No, I am sure they do share "some" culture, just not anything because of their skin color like you are trying to claim. Just like they could share that culture with a white dude too. 

Just as much as there is a shared black one... 

I guess that it is safe to say that we are both dealing with a woke, i hate my white skin, dummy. Just saying. 😁

[impartialobserver]

59 minutes ago, taxme said:

Yessiree, I am proud to be white and i am still waiting for a White History Month to be declared. Don't like me saying so, well STFU and just go away. Works for me. 😁

Brain dead acts is all i seem to get from some people like you here who seems to feel that because some white guy like myself would like to have a White History Month declared just seems meaningless to you and that i should just quit with the idea and just go away. Good luck, fella. 🤣

unlike you , I am proud of my decisions, achievements, children, etc and not just my race. My being white is a random item.. interesting how you always skip over that. I am proud that I grew up poor and rose up out of it. The rest of the family is mostly paycheck to paycheck types and I always wanted a more predictable, stable life than that. 

[impartialobserver]

3 hours ago, User said:

And that has nothing to do with race then... those are nationalities or geographical locations. White people, Black people, Asian, Hispanic... would all have the same culture from those areas. 

Precisely.. no such thing as "white culture". 

[User]

50 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

Precisely.. no such thing as "white culture". 

No such thing as "black culture", "asian culture", etc... either. 

[User]

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

Specific "white" ethnic or national subgroups do. White people don't.

I asked how... You seem unable to articulate anything resembling a coherent thought here. 

2 hours ago, Black Dog said:

There is a shared Black experience tho.

There, there is a shared white experience, too!

[Black Dog]

15 hours ago, taxme said:

Look Princess, how many times does a dummy like you have to be told that there is nothing wrong with someone DARING to say that they have pride in their own white race. So, just where have i ever said that the white people are superior? Verbatim, please. 

Are you shitting me, are you seriously brain damaged?

On 3/14/2024 at 6:06 PM, taxme said:

IMHO, i do believe that the white race can be seen in many ways as a superior race just by all of the inventions and creations that we have given to the rest of the world.

 

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So, according to you, native Indian culture, black culture or Asian culture are cultures, but white people isn't and have no culture. You lefties never make much sense ever. You need to think before you speak, Princess. 

Yes and I've explained why.

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Nope, not triggered at all. Just trying to put up with your stupid dummy leftist woke replies all the time, Princess. 🤡

You are more triggered than anyone I've ever seen.

Edited May 29, 2024 by Black Dog

[Black Dog]

13 hours ago, User said:

I asked how... You seem unable to articulate anything resembling a coherent thought here. 

It's pretty clear: there's no unifying white culture, bit different groups with different cultures that fall under the arbitrary racial classification of "white" but are all distinct. It's an extremely simple concept but alas, nothing is too simple for you ti understand.

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There, there is a shared white experience, too!

There isn't though.

[User]

12 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

It's pretty clear: there's no unifying white culture, bit different groups with different cultures that fall under the arbitrary racial classification of "white" but are all distinct. It's an extremely simple concept but alas, nothing is too simple for you ti understand.

Just as clear as there is no black culture, Asian culture, etc... 

13 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

There isn't though.

Just like the other races... 

[Black Dog]

2 hours ago, User said:

Just as clear as there is no black culture, Asian culture, etc... 

Just like the other races... 

Except that's obviously not the case. There is Black culture. There's no white culture distinct from ethno-national cultures. Again, your inability to grasp this is truly fascinating.

Edited May 29, 2024 by Black Dog

[User]

4 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Except that's obviously not the case. There is Black culture. There's no white culture distinct from ethno-national cultures. Again, your inability to grasp this is truly fascinating.

Just like there is a White culture too!

 

[Black Dog]

1 minute ago, User said:

Just like there is a White culture too!

Even your own link doesn't agree with you as it ascribes "white culture" to  four mass migrations from four regions of the British Isles by four distinct ethno-cultural groups. lmao, pathetic.

[impartialobserver]

15 hours ago, User said:

No such thing as "black culture", "asian culture", etc... either. 

Just like with "white culture"... you need to add one more descriptor such as American, Nigerian, Mexican, Latin American. etc. 

[User]

5 minutes ago, Black Dog said:

Even your own link doesn't agree with you as it ascribes "white culture" to  four mass migrations from four regions of the British Isles by four distinct ethno-cultural groups. lmao, pathetic.

Agree with me? I simply said there is a White Culture too! In the same simpleton way you did. 

"The overall American culture reflects White American culture. The culture has been developing since long before the United States formed a separate country. Much of White American culture shows influences from British culture. Colonial ties to Great Britain spread the English language, legal system and other cultural attributes.^[80]"