Hostility to immigration hardening

[Zeitgeist]

It’s like having Scotland in Ontario.

[Dougie93]

54 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

It’s like having Scotland in Ontario.

except,  due to the LCBO overweening Nanny State Temperance Lady

Lagavulin 16 Single Malt is now $184.95 CAD a bottle

in the face of such egregious taxation without representation

a frugal Upper Canadian Scotsman substitutes Crown Royal Northern Harvest Rye at $39.95 CAD

World Whisky of the Year 2016 : the only Canadian Whisky ever to win

Bourbon like qualities, at Rye prices

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

True, and it drives down wages and takes jobs from the people already here, especially with EDI policies giving special employment points on the basis of race or ethnicity.  Basically we’re damaging our living standards and quality of life to appease foreigners.

well the driving down wages thing isn't what most people think. They don't immediately drive down wages - employers will still pay premium dollars for canadian workers in MOST cases. 

But. They wind up reducing efficiency and employers wind up not wanting to put investment into boosting productivity.  And without that, eveyrone is worth less per hour over time.  A worker in the states and one in canada right now do not do the same amount of work even tho both work just as hard - the one in the states tends to be more efficient (that's a litlte complex but you get the idea).

US companies spend the money on hardware, gear, software, training etc to allow that person to do more in less time and to allow the business to use less people to get more done and wages go up accordingly. 

THat is not happening here.

[Zeitgeist]

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

well the driving down wages thing isn't what most people think. They don't immediately drive down wages - employers will still pay premium dollars for canadian workers in MOST cases. 

But. They wind up reducing efficiency and employers wind up not wanting to put investment into boosting productivity.  And without that, eveyrone is worth less per hour over time.  A worker in the states and one in canada right now do not do the same amount of work even tho both work just as hard - the one in the states tends to be more efficient (that's a litlte complex but you get the idea).

US companies spend the money on hardware, gear, software, training etc to allow that person to do more in less time and to allow the business to use less people to get more done and wages go up accordingly. 

THat is not happening here.

Definitely.  People make the mistake of thinking that being more productive means squeezing more labour out of workers, but what it really means is that the most productive workers have the best equipment and work smarter than everyone else, not necessarily harder.  It’s also not just about producing more of the same products, but providing better products and services.  It’s about the value-add.  

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Definitely.  People make the mistake of thinking that being more productive means squeezing more labour out of workers, but what it really means is that the most productive workers have the best equipment and work smarter than everyone else, not necessarily harder.  It’s also not just about producing more of the same products, but providing better products and services.  It’s about the value-add.  

For sure, and if business doesn't have a reason to make that investment they don't, and in canada between doubt and uncertainty created by the feds combined with a reliance on cheap newcomer labour you get a severe degradation of efficiency in many sectors and our quality of life goes right down with it.