Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Marcion of Sinope Cite for us someone who came before Luther who believes the things you believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, Yakuda said: Cite for us someone who came before Luther who believes the things you believe. Marcion is the father of the New Testament born at Sinope, in 110 AD 1373 years before Martin Luther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Marcion is the father of the New Testament born at Sinope, in 110 AD 1373 years before Martin Luther That's not a citation it's a claim. Cite from the person's work evidence that addressed the question. Edited March 4 by Yakuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Yakuda said: That's not a citation it's a claim. Cite from the person's work evidence that addressed the question. Protestantism is Marcianite in that like Saul becomes Paul when he sees the Light over Damascus only God Himself can convert you direct relationship with the Almighty ; origin story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Protestantism is Marcianite in that like Saul becomes Paul when he sees the Light over Damascus only God Himself can convert you direct relationship with the Almighty ; origin story So no citation just your ramblings. I suspect someone told you about this but you never actually read it and now you just repeat it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 1 hour ago, Yakuda said: No one worships Mary or the saints. That a lie you believe. The rosary and prayer called The Hail Mary is a very common prayer that many Catholics say throughout the world as you know. You are being deceptive or completely naive. "Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen." This is clearly idolatry. First off Mary is not the Mother of God. She was the mother of Jesus earthly body. That is it. Where in the Bible is Mary the "Mother of God"? So saying the rosary with these words is praying to Mary as if she is a god. Obviously idolatry. Another doctrine of Mary that was invented is the Immaculate Conception. The Immaculate Conception is the belief that the Virgin Mary was free of original sin from the moment of her conception. It is one of the four Marian dogmas of the Catholic Church. Praying to Mary as if she is omni-present is elevating her to the status of a god. Claiming she is the "Mother of God" is also idolatry. Nobody can legitimately pray to anyone other than God or it is idolatry. Again these are man-made inventions that are contrary to the Bible. Edited March 4 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 5 minutes ago, blackbird said: The rosary and prayer called The Hail Mary is a very common prayer that many Catholics say throughout the world as you know. You are being deceptive or completely naive. "Hail, Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee. Blessed art thou amongst women and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of our death. Amen." This is clearly idolatry. First off Mary is not the Mother of God. She was the mother of Jesus earthly body. That is it. Where in the Bible is Mary the "Mother of God"? So saying the rosary with these words is praying to Mary as if she is a god. Obviously idolatry. Another doctrine of Mary that was invented is the Immaculate Conception. The Immaculate Conception is the belief that the Virgin Mary was free of original sin from the moment of her conception. It is one of the four Marian dogmas of the Catholic Church. Again these are man-made inventions that are contrary to the Bible. The first half of that prayer is entirely biblical and the second half isnt worship. Let's stay in topic though. Prove either of your perverse "solas" are true. If you want to discuss the Hail Mary start a thread. Edited March 4 by Yakuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Yakuda said: So no citation just your ramblings. I suspect someone told you about this but you never actually read it and now you just repeat it. Marcion laid the foundation which Martin Luther took up over thirteen hundred years later in that there can be no office between man and a supernatural God certainly not Tiberius Caesar whom crucified the Savior even Papists are starting to sense it now with a godless atheist Pope in Rome, even Papists have lost faith in Mary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: Marcion laid the foundation which Martin Luther took up over thirteen hundred years later in that there can be no office between man and a supernatural God certainly not Tiberius Caesar whom crucified the Savior even Papists are starting to sense it now with a godless atheist Pope in Rome, even Papists have lost faith in Mary So still no citations just your words. So this heresy sat rejected and idle for 1500 years until the looney monk picked it up. LMBO oh course it did. The church fathers correctly declared it heresy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Just now, Yakuda said: So still no citations just your words. So this heresy sat rejected and idle for 1500 years until the looney monk picked it up. LMBO oh course it did. The church fathers correctly declared it heresy. the Papists are confronted by the heresy of a godless atheist Pope any honest Papist admits that he is lost in a wilderness therein what Papists defend & uphold the degenerate Papacy now ? I don't know any they are all being converted to Protestantism in the face of the Vatican siding with Communists whether they admit it or not although most admit it now, since they cannot abide the heresy of Woke Pope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: the Papists are confronted by the heresy of a godless atheist Pope any honest Papist admits that he is lost in a wilderness therein what Papists defend & uphold the degenerate Papacy now ? I don't know any they are all being converted to Protestantism in the face of the Vatican siding with Communists whether they admit it or not although most admit it now, since they cannot abide the heresy of Woke Pope Sadly the weak do convert to your perverted version of "christianity". The "strong" protestants who can think convert to Catholicism. You get the runts we get the pick of the litter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Yakuda said: Prove either of your perverse "solas" are true. Are you asking for scientific proof or some kind of verse that states sola Scriptura? If that is the game you are playing, you might as well forget it. That is not how truth is revealed. The doctrine of sola Scriptura is simply the overwhelming theme of the Bible, i.e. that Scripture is God's revelation to man and anything that contradicts it is wrong. But there are also specific verses which point to that fact. For example, a few verses in the last chapter of the Bible. " 18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book. " Revelation 22:18, 19 " 16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: " 2 Timothy 3:16 These verses are just an example of how the Bible shows that it is the source of all truth regarding faith and practice. It shows that anything that is contrary to Scripture must be rejected. Therefore all the man-made dogmas and practice that Rome invented and which are contrary to the Bible must be rejected. " 6 And these things, brethren, I have in a figure transferred to myself and to Apollos for your sakes; that ye might learn in us not to think of men above that which is written, that no one of you be puffed up for one against another. " 1 Corinthians 4:6 In other words, we are not to elevate what men say above Scripture. Scripture takes precedence over the ideas of men. Tradition was invented by men. If it is contrary to Scripture, we are to reject it. We are never to "think of men above that which is written" (Scripture) "15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. " 2 Timothy 2:15 Again Paul exhorts us to study the Scripture and follow it. Tradition can never be contrary to Scripture or superior to it. Edited March 4 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Yakuda said: Sadly the weak do convert to your perverted version of "christianity". The "strong" protestants who can think convert to Catholicism. You get the runts we get the pick of the litter. who would convert to a Vatican which sides with degenerate godless atheist Satanic cults ? the Pope in Rome kneels with the Antichrist Papists know, they can see the downfall of Rome in progress Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: who would convert to a Vatican which sides with degenerate godless atheist Satanic cults ? the Pope in Rome kneels with the Antichrist Papists know, they can see the downfall of Rome in progress So you dont know that there are loads of pastors from the 20-30,000 Christian denominations that your perversion caused who are converting to Catholicism???? You really should get your head out of your a..! Edited March 4 by Yakuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 2 minutes ago, Yakuda said: So you dont know that there are loads of pastors from the 20-30,000 Christian denominations that your perversion caused who are converting to Catholicism???? You really should get your head out of your a..! Evangelical Protestantism is the fastest growing faith in the world even Latin America, last bastion of of the Vatican, is coming to us now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 1 minute ago, Dougie93 said: Evangelical Protestantism is the fastest growing faith in the world even Latin America, last bastion of of the Vatican, is coming to us now You're like all the well trained monkeys are you? You think volume equals accuracy and truth. The fastest growing demographic world wide is the "nones", the people whom laim no faith at all. According to you they have the real truth if numbers is all you are considering. It's doesnt matter how many join you that doesnt make you right. Too much thinking for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 Just now, Yakuda said: The fastest growing demographic world wide is the "nones", lost souls in a pagan wilderness of thorns is not a faith, quite the opposite none the less, Latin Americans are converting to be Evangelicals at an exponential pace they flood into Anglo-America, seeking the prosperity of the Protestant Enlightenment no man nor office between them and their Saviour since the Vatican has made itself into an instrument of godless atheist tyranny by choosing a Marxist Leninist to be the Pope in Rome Whore of Babylon, exactly as Martin Luther foresaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Dougie93 said: lost souls in a pagan wilderness of thorns is not a faith, quite the opposite none the less, Latin Americans are converting to be Evangelicals at an exponential pace they flood into Anglo-America, seeking the prosperity of the Protestant Enlightenment no man nor office between them and their Saviour since the Vatican has made itself into an instrument of godless atheist tyranny by choosing a Marxist Leninist to be the Pope in Rome Whore of Babylon, exactly as Martin Luther foresaw The loony monk saw nothing but a plate of food. He was mentally unstable and the result is 20-30,000 supposedly Christian denominations. You knuckleheads can't even agree amongst yourselves. LMBO Edited March 4 by Yakuda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaétan Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 3 hours ago, Yakuda said: So some of scripture is true and some isnt? Who decides what's "righteous"? I bet everything you agree with is "rightsous", am I right? Let's not waste time, of course I'm right. How come? You cannot distinguish what is rightous or not? Here is the question you may ask to yourself: Matthew 7:12 New International Version 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 12 minutes ago, Yakuda said: . You knuckleheads can't even agree amongst yourselves. but there is no such thing as a Church of Protestantism so there is no cause for us to agree, quite the opposite as each Protestant enjoys a direct relationship between themselves & the Almighty ultimate freedom of the sacred individual is the source of our power Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 Just now, Dougie93 said: but there is no such thing as a Church of Protestantism so there is no cause for us to agree, quite the opposite as each Protestant enjoys a direct relationship between themselves & the Almighty ultimate freedom of the sacred individual is the source of our power Unadulterated buffoonery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 6 minutes ago, Gaétan said: How come? You cannot distinguish what is rightous or not? Here is the question you may ask to yourself: Matthew 7:12 New International Version 12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets. You're making a huge assumption. You're like one of those people that says inane things like, "There are no absolutes". I would try to point out the irony to you but why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 6 minutes ago, Yakuda said: Unadulterated buffoonery. but individual freedom by direct relationship with God is the source of all our security & prosperity Anglo American Empire of Liberty any country run by the Vatican has long ago been reduced to a third world banana republic hence why all the Latin Americans are fleeing to the American religion Glorious Union; founded by Presbyterian John Brown, to free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yakuda Posted March 4 Author Report Share Posted March 4 1 hour ago, Dougie93 said: but individual freedom by direct relationship with God is the source of all our security & prosperity Anglo American Empire of Liberty any country run by the Vatican has long ago been reduced to a third world banana republic hence why all the Latin Americans are fleeing to the American religion Glorious Union; founded by Presbyterian John Brown, to free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying Double down on th buffoonery huh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted March 4 Report Share Posted March 4 4 minutes ago, Yakuda said: Double down on th buffoonery huh? I have the zeal of a convert the Nazarene come like a stranger in the night no man nor office between us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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