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7 hours ago, blackbird said:

Sadly you are ignoring many, many verses which were quoted to you.  You cling to one verse and ignore all the rest.  Not the way to understand Scripture.

You know nothing about preachers and their theological training obviously.

I will leave it for now in God's hands.  Only God can change a person's heart.

Luther, Calvin, and others were RC priests I understand.  God opened their eyes and delivered them from a false religious system.  So there is hope.  Watch this Martin Luther movie -  a return to grace

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You don't listen to Jesus you listen to preachers. 

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6 hours ago, blackbird said:

You are missing the nuance of the Biblical doctrine of justification by faith alone.

You need to slow down and THINK a little.  Do you really understand what you are talking about?  I doubt very much you even understand the doctrine of justification by faith which you profess to oppose.

At least understand it so you can discuss it intelligently.

 

 

I know how to read and I read that a person is justified by what they do and not by faith alone.

This is the problem with you people. AGAIN you think only in an either/or way but the bible is clear it's both/and but you people always seems to think you know more than Jesus and 1500 years of teaching. 

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6 hours ago, blackbird said:

There quite likely were individuals or small groups of believers since the apostolic age who believe in salvation by grace through faith, but they could not come out in the open because Rome controlled the state.  It was the state religion for most of the western world for over a thousand years until the Reformation.

LMBO there "quite likely" were individuals......? You need a citation for this son. But is that the silliness they teach you? Yes heretics have always been nipping at the heels of the church Jesus established and with authority the church addressed those heresies so people wouldn't be led astray. Sadly the looney little monk made everyone think they could be their own pope. 

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1 hour ago, Yakuda said:

LMBO there "quite likely" were individuals......? You need a citation for this son.

Actually the citation just came to mind.  There is a relatively famous book.  Maybe you heard of it.   

Fox's Book of Martyrs

Or A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs

I haven't read it myself but have heard of it many times.  It is available to read for free at archive.com and other websites.

Rome ran a dictatorship for over a thousand years.  You either bowed the knee to Rome or you were a heretic that had to be dealt with.  400 years of the Inquisition was about persecuting and punishing heretics.  All done in the name of God.  Some religion.

 

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1 hour ago, Yakuda said:

You need a citation for this son

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FOX'S
BOOK OF MARTYRS

OR
A HISTORY OF THE
LIVES, SUFFERINGS, AND TRIUMPHANT DEATHS
OF THE

PRIMITIVE PROTESTANT MARTYRS

FROM THE
INTRODUCTION OF CHRISTIANITY
TO THE
LATEST PERIODS OF PAGAN, POPISH, AND INFIDEL
PERSECUTIONS"

Fox's Book of Martyrs / Or A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant / Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs – John Foxe (manybooks.net)

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1 hour ago, Yakuda said:

You need a citation for this son.

The recorded history is there for anyone who wishes to know the truth.

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Though nearly all sects have persecuted their opponents, during a brief season, when men's passions were highly excited, and true religion had mournfully declined, yet no denomination except the papal hierarchy, has adopted as an article of religious belief, and a principle of practical observance, the right to destroy heretics for opinion's sake. The decrees of councils, and the bulls of popes, issued in conformity with those decrees, place this matter beyond a doubt. Persecution, therefore, and popery, are inseparably connected; because claiming infallibility, what she has once done is right for her to do again; yea, must be done under similar circumstances, or the claims of infallibility given up. There is no escaping this conclusion. It is right, therefore, to charge upon popery, all the persecutions and horrid cruelties which have stained the annals of the papal church during her long and bloody career of darkness and crime. Every sigh which has been heaved in the dungeons of the Inquisition—every groan which has been extorted by the racks and instruments of torture, which the malice of her bigoted votaries, stimulated by infernal wisdom, ever invented, has witnessed in the ear of God, against the "Mother of Harlots;" and those kings of the earth, who giving their power to the "Beast" have aided her in the cruel work of desolation and death. The valleys of Piedmont, the mountains of Switzerland, the vine crowned hills of Italy and France—and all parts of Germany and the low countries, have by turns, been lighted by the fires of burning victims, or crimsoned with the blood of those who have suffered death at the hands of the cruel emissaries of popery. England too, has drunken deep of the "wine of the fierceness of her wrath," as the blood of Cobham, and the ashes of the Smithfield martyrs can testify. Ireland and Scotland, likewise, have each been made the theatre of her atrocities. But no where has the system been exhibited in its native unalleviated deformity, as in Spain, Portugal and their South American dependencies. For centuries, such a system of police was established by the Holy Inquisitors, that these countries resembled a vast whispering gallery, where the slightest murmur of discontent could be heard and punished. Such has been the effect of superstition and the terror of the Holy Office, upon the mind, as completely to break the pride of the Castillian noble, and make him the unresisting victim of every mendicant friar and "hemp-sandaled monk."Fox's Book of Martyrs / Or A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant / Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs – John Foxe (manybooks.net)

 

 

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4 hours ago, blackbird said:

Actually the citation just came to mind.  There is a relatively famous book.  Maybe you heard of it.   

Fox's Book of Martyrs

Or A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs

I haven't read it myself but have heard of it many times.  It is available to read for free at archive.com and other websites.

Rome ran a dictatorship for over a thousand years.  You either bowed the knee to Rome or you were a heretic that had to be dealt with.  400 years of the Inquisition was about persecuting and punishing heretics.  All done in the name of God.  Some religion.

 

So nothing from scripture? Like most of what you believe.

3 hours ago, blackbird said:

"

FOX'S
BOOK OF MARTYRS

OR
A HISTORY OF THE
LIVES, SUFFERINGS, AND TRIUMPHANT DEATHS
OF THE

PRIMITIVE PROTESTANT MARTYRS

FROM THE
INTRODUCTION OF CHRISTIANITY
TO THE
LATEST PERIODS OF PAGAN, POPISH, AND INFIDEL
PERSECUTIONS"

Fox's Book of Martyrs / Or A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant / Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs – John Foxe (manybooks.net)

Not impressed 

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3 hours ago, blackbird said:

The recorded history is there for anyone who wishes to know the truth.

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Though nearly all sects have persecuted their opponents, during a brief season, when men's passions were highly excited, and true religion had mournfully declined, yet no denomination except the papal hierarchy, has adopted as an article of religious belief, and a principle of practical observance, the right to destroy heretics for opinion's sake. The decrees of councils, and the bulls of popes, issued in conformity with those decrees, place this matter beyond a doubt. Persecution, therefore, and popery, are inseparably connected; because claiming infallibility, what she has once done is right for her to do again; yea, must be done under similar circumstances, or the claims of infallibility given up. There is no escaping this conclusion. It is right, therefore, to charge upon popery, all the persecutions and horrid cruelties which have stained the annals of the papal church during her long and bloody career of darkness and crime. Every sigh which has been heaved in the dungeons of the Inquisition—every groan which has been extorted by the racks and instruments of torture, which the malice of her bigoted votaries, stimulated by infernal wisdom, ever invented, has witnessed in the ear of God, against the "Mother of Harlots;" and those kings of the earth, who giving their power to the "Beast" have aided her in the cruel work of desolation and death. The valleys of Piedmont, the mountains of Switzerland, the vine crowned hills of Italy and France—and all parts of Germany and the low countries, have by turns, been lighted by the fires of burning victims, or crimsoned with the blood of those who have suffered death at the hands of the cruel emissaries of popery. England too, has drunken deep of the "wine of the fierceness of her wrath," as the blood of Cobham, and the ashes of the Smithfield martyrs can testify. Ireland and Scotland, likewise, have each been made the theatre of her atrocities. But no where has the system been exhibited in its native unalleviated deformity, as in Spain, Portugal and their South American dependencies. For centuries, such a system of police was established by the Holy Inquisitors, that these countries resembled a vast whispering gallery, where the slightest murmur of discontent could be heard and punished. Such has been the effect of superstition and the terror of the Holy Office, upon the mind, as completely to break the pride of the Castillian noble, and make him the unresisting victim of every mendicant friar and "hemp-sandaled monk."Fox's Book of Martyrs / Or A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant / Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs – John Foxe (manybooks.net)

 

 

How.much of this work is the inspired infallible word of God? That's how much of it I'll believe. 

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2 hours ago, Yakuda said:

So nothing from scripture? Like most of what you believe.

I was talking about what the Papacy did to so-called heretics in the past 2,000 years prior to the Reformation because you wouldn't accept what I said.  The Bible was completed 1,900 years ago and does not record history since then.  So we have to use other sources.  But you don't accept the cruel dark history of the Roman church and refuse to acknowledge it.  No surprise.  

2 hours ago, Yakuda said:

How.much of this work is the inspired infallible word of God? That's how much of it I'll believe. 

History tells us everything we need to know.  "By their works, ye shall know them".

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1 hour ago, blackbird said:

I was talking about what the Papacy did to so-called heretics in the past 2,000 years prior to the Reformation because you wouldn't accept what I said.  The Bible was completed 1,900 years ago and does not record history since then.  So we have to use other sources.  But you don't accept the cruel dark history of the Roman church and refuse to acknowledge it.  No surprise.  

History tells us everything we need to know.  "By their works, ye shall know them".

The church established by Jesus was built on the rock of someone who betrayed him. Here's what's wrong with you, you have this confused idea that infallible is then same as perfect. You seem entirely incapable of holding two ideas in your mind at the same time. You call scripture the infallible word of God and it is but it was given to us through imperfect men. What you call the Bible is a compilation of writings given to us by imperfect men. 

Jesus tells me everything I need to know. You should of try it some time. Jesus said whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. Is he right or do you and Luther know better? 

Let me ask you a question, how many different churches have you been a member of?

Jesus says 

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On 2/15/2024 at 10:19 AM, Yakuda said:

How.much of this work is the inspired infallible word of God? That's how much of it I'll believe. 

So you totally reject history of the persecution and genocide of the Roman church down through history?

I guess the Roman church indoctrinated you very well and told you not to believe anything unless they told you.  That sounds like a real cult if ever there was one.

Better get the book Fox's Book of Martyrs and open your eyes to the truth.

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Fox's Book of Martyrs: Or, A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant: Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs

by John Fox

The famous historical compendium of Christians who sacrificed themselves for their faith over many centuries is presented here, complete. At times uplifting, at times harrowing, but in its entirety compelling and worthwhile reading, Fox's Book of Martyrs is a work of supreme Christian devotion. It catalogs the rise to prominence, and deaths, of many Christian saints and martyrs who placed their faith above all else. Many were, under penalty of torture and death, told to give up their beliefs: by refusing, they proved themselves to be of the highest devotion. When this book was published in 1563, the Christian church was in the throes of schism: the Reformation was proceeding at a fast pace, creating the first denominational forks in Christianity. The rise of Protestantism, and the attempts by the Catholic Church at preventing a split and consequent loss of authority, left a marked impression upon John Fox.   unquote

Fox's Book of Martyrs: Or, A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant: Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs by Fox, John: New, Paperback, $18.24 at Alibris

There are some less expensive used copies at Alibris.

But I am not holding my breath for you to read it.   It is also available online for free to read on some websites.

 

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2 hours ago, blackbird said:

So you totally reject history of the persecution and genocide of the Roman church down through history?

I guess the Roman church indoctrinated you very well and told you not to believe anything unless they told you.  That sounds like a real cult if ever there was one.

Better get the book Fox's Book of Martyrs and open your eyes to the truth.

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Fox's Book of Martyrs: Or, A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant: Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs

by John Fox

The famous historical compendium of Christians who sacrificed themselves for their faith over many centuries is presented here, complete. At times uplifting, at times harrowing, but in its entirety compelling and worthwhile reading, Fox's Book of Martyrs is a work of supreme Christian devotion. It catalogs the rise to prominence, and deaths, of many Christian saints and martyrs who placed their faith above all else. Many were, under penalty of torture and death, told to give up their beliefs: by refusing, they proved themselves to be of the highest devotion. When this book was published in 1563, the Christian church was in the throes of schism: the Reformation was proceeding at a fast pace, creating the first denominational forks in Christianity. The rise of Protestantism, and the attempts by the Catholic Church at preventing a split and consequent loss of authority, left a marked impression upon John Fox.   unquote

Fox's Book of Martyrs: Or, A History of the Lives, Sufferings, and Triumphant: Deaths of the Primitive Protestant Martyrs by Fox, John: New, Paperback, $18.24 at Alibris

There are some less expensive used copies at Alibris.

But I am not holding my breath for you to read it.   It is also available online for free to read on some websites.

 

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Do you know who Michael Servetus is? Jesus said let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I know you dont listen to Jesus but thought I'd remind you anyway. 

It's amazing how you people traipse out the same old tired rote responses. It's almost as if you're programmed only to regurgitate what's put into you. 

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2 hours ago, Yakuda said:

Do you know who Michael Servetus is? Jesus said let him who is without sin cast the first stone. I know you dont listen to Jesus but thought I'd remind you anyway. 

It's amazing how you people traipse out the same old tired rote responses. It's almost as if you're programmed only to regurgitate what's put into you. 

So you deny the history of the Catholic church concerning its persecution down through the ages.  It's no different than denying the Holocaust happened and six million Jews were killed.  

Its not a matter of casting stones.  That is a ludicrous application of that verse.  According to your thinking everyone should turn a blind eye to all the atrocities that happened down through history.  These are simple facts that everyone needs to face.  You would have much more credibility if you accepted it, admitted it was completely wrong, and that therefore the Church, church leadership, councils, and Popes cannot be infallible.  

You need to read some of Avro Manhattan's books on the RC church as well. 

"11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 12  For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. 13  But all things that are reproved are made manifest by the light: for whatsoever doth make manifest is light. " Ephesians 5:11-13  KJV

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1 minute ago, blackbird said:

So you deny the history of the Catholic church concerning its persecution down through the ages.  It's no different than denying the Holocaust happened and six million Jews were killed.  

Its not a matter of casting stones.  That is a ludicrous application of that verse.  According to your thinking everyone should turn a blind eye to all the atrocities that happened down through history.  These are simple facts that everyone needs to face.  You would have much more credibility if you accepted it, admitted it was completely wrong, and that therefore the Church, church leadership, councils, and Popes cannot be infallible.  

You need to read some of Avro Manhattan's books on the RC church as well. 

You sure seem intent on denying that the heretics you follow were blood thirsty haters and the killers. Luther Calvin and Zwingli were demented lunatics who called each other the anti christ and had no compunction about calling for thr death of people who disagreed with them. 

You people can't get your own crap together but you think you can decide whats true and what isnt. 

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2 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

You sure seem intent on denying that the heretics you follow were blood thirsty haters and the killers. Luther Calvin and Zwingli were demented lunatics who called each other the anti christ and had no compunction about calling for thr death of people who disagreed with them. 

You people can't get your own crap together but you think you can decide whats true and what isnt. 

Fox's Book of Martyrs is accepted by much of the world (except the Catholic Church of course) as a factual record of the persecution down through the ages by Rome.  This is a long history going back 2,000 years.   

The RC church was by far the overwhelming state church in the western world.  Your trying to claim what Rome called the heretics were the blood thirsty haters and killers is ludicrous.  It just shows you have no knowledge of history or what actually happened.  Rome controlled nations, and ordained emperors, kings and queens to rule.  Almost everyone had to obey the RCC.  That is just a simple fact.  So whenever its authority was challenged by small groups or individuals, then the RCC came down heavy on them, hunted them down, and either punished them, or burned them at the stake and wiped them out.

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25 minutes ago, Yakuda said:

You sure seem intent on denying that the heretics you follow were blood thirsty haters and the killers. Luther Calvin and Zwingli were demented lunatics who called each other the anti christ and had no compunction about calling for thr death of people who disagreed with them. 

You people can't get your own crap together but you think you can decide whats true and what isnt. 

I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by both Catholics and Protestants down through history.  There are books available online that critique Fox's Book of Martyrs.  I am sure they raise many valid points.  Fox's Book likely did not include many violent acts committed by Protestants.  Both RCs and Protestants who committed those kinds of things were wrong and doing evil.  We should be able to agree on that.

The point is that Rome was by far the only state church with tremendous power that existed for well over a thousand years except for a small number of groups that disagreed with Roman Catholicism.  According to history they were heavily persecuted and wiped out in many cases.  I don't defend any violence committed by any group.  When people are acting in self-defence, then perhaps we can agree with that aspect.  But to claim the RCC did not do these kinds of things or that they were justified is nonsensical.

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35 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Fox's Book of Martyrs is accepted by much of the world (except the Catholic Church of course) as a factual record of the persecution down through the ages by Rome.  This is a long history going back 2,000 years.   

The RC church was by far the overwhelming state church in the western world.  Your trying to claim what Rome called the heretics were the blood thirsty haters and killers is ludicrous.  It just shows you have no knowledge of history or what actually happened.  Rome controlled nations, and ordained emperors, kings and queens to rule.  Almost everyone had to obey the RCC.  That is just a simple fact.  So whenever its authority was challenged by small groups or individuals, then the RCC came down heavy on them, hunted them down, and either punished them, or burned them at the stake and wiped them out.

Yes the church has had it's problems because the people in it are not perfect. The things is you folks think your perfect and every time you get shown how wrong you are you have a hissy fit. 

You follow one of the three heretics I previously mentioned and not Jesus but you get all uppity. I've never really been impressed with protestant sanctimony 

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You follow one of the three heretics I previously mentioned and not Jesus but you get all uppity. I've never really been impressed with protestant sanctimony 

Nonsense.  I have given you many verses from the Bible.  Jesus is the word and the Bible came from him.  

You think your interpretation is correct even if I gave you many verses that differ with it.

The only reason I can see why you cling to your own interpretation is because you believe the RCC has the infallible interpretation.  Why don't you just admit that?

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27 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I have no doubt that atrocities were committed by both Catholics and Protestants down through history.  There are books available online that critique Fox's Book of Martyrs.  I am sure they raise many valid points.  Fox's Book likely did not include many violent acts committed by Protestants.  Both RCs and Protestants who committed those kinds of things were wrong and doing evil.  We should be able to agree on that.

The point is that Rome was by far the only state church with tremendous power that existed for well over a thousand years except for a small number of groups that disagreed with Roman Catholicism.  According to history they were heavily persecuted and wiped out in many cases.  I don't defend any violence committed by any group.  When people are acting in self-defence, then perhaps we can agree with that aspect.  But to claim the RCC did not do these kinds of things or that they were justified is nonsensical.

The fact remains protestants perverted scripture to their own designs and the architects of the great schism couldn't even agree between themselves what was real and true. 

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6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Nonsense.  I have given you many verses from the Bible.  Jesus is the word and the Bible came from him.  

You think your interpretation is correct even if I gave you many verses that differ with it.

The only reason I can see why you cling to your own interpretation is because you believe the RCC has the infallible interpretation.  Why don't you just admit that?

All you offer is rejection of Jesus. 

No where does scripture teach sola scriptura. It's a protestant invention. No where does scripture say what books should be in scripture. You don't even follow your own inventions. You're as confused as Luther Calvin and Zwingli

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3 hours ago, Yakuda said:

All you offer is rejection of Jesus. 

No where does scripture teach sola scriptura. It's a protestant invention. No where does scripture say what books should be in scripture. You don't even follow your own inventions. You're as confused as Luther Calvin and Zwingli

Here are over a hundred verses showing salvation is by faith alone.

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The Bible is clear that salvation is by faith alone in Jesus Christ!

Genesis 15:6: “And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.”

Habakkuk 2:4: “Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.”

Mark 1:15: “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”

Mark 16:16: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”

Luke 8:12: “Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.”

Luke 7:50: “And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.”

Luke 8:12: “Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.”

John 1:12: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”

John 3:(14,)15: “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.“

John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

John 3:18: “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

John 3:36: “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

John 5:24: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

John 6:35: “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.”

John 6:40: “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. “

John 6:47: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”

John 7:38: “He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.”

John 8:24: “I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”

John 11:25: “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”

John 11:26: “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”

John 12:46: “I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.”

John 16:27: “For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.”

John 20:31: “But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

Acts 2:21: “And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Acts 5:14: “And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.)”

Acts 8:12: “But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”

Acts 8:13: “Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.”

Acts 8:37 (8:35-38): “Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”

Acts 10:43: “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”

Acts 11:17,18: “Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.”

Acts 11:21: “And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.”

Acts 13:39: “And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.”

Acts 13:48: “And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.”

Acts 15:7-9: “And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; and put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.”

Acts 16:31: “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

Acts 18:8: “And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.”

Acts 22:16: “And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.”

Acts 26:18: “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”

Romans 1:16: “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

Romans 1:17: “For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

Romans 3:22a: “Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:”

Romans 3:25: “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

Romans 3:26: “To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”

Romans 3:28: “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”

Romans 3:30: “Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.”

Romans 4:3: “For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.”

Romans 4:5: “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

Romans 4:9: “Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.”

Romans 4:11: “And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:”

Romans 4:13: “For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.”

Romans 4:16,17: “Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.”

Romans 4:18-22: “Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah’s womb: he staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; and being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.”

Romans 5:1: “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:”

Romans 5:2: “By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.”

Romans 4:20-25: “He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; and being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; but for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.”

Romans 9:30: “What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.”

Romans 9:32,33: “Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; as it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.”

Romans 10:4: “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”

Romans 10:6a: “But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise…”

Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

Romans 10:10: “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

Romans 10:11: “For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.”

Romans 10:13: “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Romans 10:14-17: “How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Romans 11:20: “Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:”

1 Corinthians 1:21: “For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.”

1 Corinthians 15:2: “By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.”

1 Corinthians 15:17: “And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.”

2 Corinthians 4:4: “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

2 Corinthians 6:14: “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”

2 Corinthians 6:15: “And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?”

Galatians 2:16: “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

Galatians 2:20: “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”

Galatians 3:6,7: “Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.”

Galatians 3:8: “And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.”

Galatians 3:11: “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”

Galatians 3:14: “That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.”

Galatians 3:22: “But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”

Galatians 3:24: “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.”

Galatians 3:26: “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”

Galatians 5:5: “For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.”

Ephesians 1:13: “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”

Ephesians 1:19: “And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,”

Ephesians 2:8,9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Philippians 3:9: “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:”

Colossians 1:4,5: “Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints, for the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, wherefore ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;”

Colossians 2:12: “Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.”

1 Thessalonians 2:13: “For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.”

2 Thessalonians 1:10: “When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.”

2 Thessalonians 2:12: “That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

1 Timothy 1:16: “Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”

1 Timothy 4:10: “For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.”

2 Timothy 3:15: “And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”

Hebrews 3:18: “And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?”

Hebrews 4:2: “For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.”

Hebrews 4:3a: “For we which have believed do enter into rest…”

Hebrews 11:7: “By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”

Hebrews 11:31: “By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.”

Hebrews 10:38: “Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.”

Hebrews 10:39: “But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.”

Hebrews 11:6: “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

James 2:5: “Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?”

James 2:23: “And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.”

1 Peter 1:5: “Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”

1 Peter 1:9: “Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.”

1 Peter 1:18-21: “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.”1 Peter 2:6: “Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.”

1 Peter 2:7: “Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,”

1 John 5:1a: “Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God…”

1 John 5:4: “For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.”

1 John 5:5: “Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?”

1 John 5:10: “He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.”

1 John 5:13: “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”   unquote

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On 2/15/2024 at 1:47 PM, Yakuda said:

Jesus tells me everything I need to know. You should of try it some time. Jesus said whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. Is he right or do you and Luther know better? 

You claim you have the correct interpretation of Jesus' words but you take his words on the bread and wine literally when it clearly is not meant to be taken literally.  This article explains why it cannot be meant literal.  Jesus often spoke figuratively.

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This doctrine of the mass, of course, is based on the assumption that the words of Christ, “This is my body,” and “This is my blood” (Matthew 6:26-28), must be taken literally. The accounts of the institution of the Lord’s Supper, both in the Gospels and in Paul’s letter to the Corinthians, make it perfectly clear that He spoke in figurative terms. Jesus aid, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood” (Luke 22:20). And Paul quotes Jesus as saying: “This is the new covenant in my blood. ... or as oft as ye eat this bread, and drink the cup, ye proclaim the Lord’s death till he come” (1 Corinthians 11:25-26). In these words He used a double figure of speech. The cup is put for the wine, and the wine is called the new covenant. The cup was not literally the new covenant, although it is declared to be so as definitely as the bread is declared to be His body. They did not literally drink the cup, nor did they literally drink the new covenant. How ridiculous to say that they did! Nor was the bread literally His body, or the wine His blood. After giving the wine to the disciples Jesus said, “I shall not drink from henceforth of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come” (Luke 22:18). So the wine, even as He gave it to them, and after He had given it to hem, remained “the fruit of the vine”! Paul too says that the bread remains bread: “Wherefore whosoever shall eat the bread and drink the pup of the Lord in an unworthy manner. ... But let each man prove himself, and so let him eat of the bread, and drink of the cup” (1 Corinthians 1:27-28). No change had taken place in the elements. This was after the prayer of consecration, when the Church of Rome supposes the change took place, and Jesus and Paul both declare that the elements still are bread and wine.

Another and more important proof that the bread and wine are not changed into the literal and actual flesh and blood of Christ is this: the literal interpretation makes the sacrament a form of cannibalism. For that is precisely what cannibalism is—the eating of human flesh. Rome attempts to deny this, but not with much logic. Clearly there is a contradiction in the Romanist explanation somewhere.

Indeed, how can Christ’s words, “This is my body,” and, “This is my blood,” be taken in a literal sense? At the time those words were spoken, the bread and wine were on the table before Him, and in His body He was sitting at the table a living man. The crucifixion had not taken place. They ate the Lord’s Supper before the crucifixion took place. Furthermore, we do not, and cannot memorialize someone who is present, as the Romanists say Christ is present in the mass. But in the future, in His absence, these things would symbolize His broken body and shed blood. They would then call to mind His sacrifice, and would then be taken in remembrance” of Him (1 Corinthians 11:25).

Jesus’ words, “This do in remembrance of me,” show that the Lord’s Supper was not some kind of magical operation, but primarily a memorial, instituted to call Christians throughout the ages to remember the wondrous cross of the crucified Lord and all its marvelous benefits and lessons for us. A memorial does not present the reality, in this case His true body and blood, but something quite different, which serves only as a reminder of the real thing.

We often show a friend a photograph and say, “This is my wife”; “This is my son”; “This is my daughter.” Such language is readily understood in ordinary conversation. Nobody takes such words literally. The Bible is written in the language of the common people. Hence it is perfectly obvious to any observant reader that the Lord’s Supper was intended primarily as a simple memorial feast, in no sense a literal reincarnation of Christ.  unquote

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We believe that the real meaning of Christ’s words can be seen when they are compared with similar figurative language which He used in John 4:13-14. There, speaking to the woman at Jacob’s well, He said: “Every one that drinketh this water shall thirst again; but whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him shall never thirst; but the water that I shall give him shall become in him a well of water springing up unto eternal life.”

On other occasions He used similar language. He said, “I am the door” (John 10:7), but of course He did not mean that He was a literal wooden door with lock and hinges. He said, “I am the vine” (John 15:5), but no one understood Him to mean that He was a grapevine. When He said, “I am the good shepherd” (John 10:14), He did not mean that He was actually a shepherd. When He said, “Ye must be born again,” (John 3:7), He referred not to a physical birth but to a spiritual birth. When He said, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up” (John 2:19), he meant His body, not the structure of wood and stone. When He said, “He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternal life” (John 6:54), He was speaking of a spiritual relationship between Himself and His people in terms of the Old Testament type, that is, eating the Passover lamb and drinking the Passover wine; but His Jewish hearers, being literalists, as are the Roman Catholics, misunderstood His words. He said, “Ye are the salt of the earth” (Matthew 5:13), and “Ye are the light of the world” (Matthew 5:14). He spoke of “the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees” (Matthew 16:6). James said, “The tongue is a fire” (3:6); and again, “Ye are a vapor that appeareth for a little time, and then vanisheth away” (4:14). Moses spoke of “the bread of affliction” (Deuteronomy 16:3), and Isaiah spoke of “the bread of adversity and the water of affliction” (30:20). None of these statements is true if taken literally. The disciples had no trouble understanding Jesus’ figures of speech. Similarly, the expressions, “This is my body,” and “This is my blood,” are clear enough for all except those who will not see, or those who merely follow medieval theologians. It is unreasonable in the extreme to take these two expressions literally while taking the others figuratively.

The actual eating of human flesh and blood is repulsive, abhorrent to all right minded people, and it was especially so to the Jews. Such practice is contrary to Scripture and to common sense. “And whatsoever man there be... that eateth any manner of blood, I will set my face against that soul that eateth blood, and will cut him off from among his people,” was the word of God through Moses (Leviticus 17:10); “Ye shall not eat the blood” (Deuteronomy 12:16); etc. In Jewish law a stem penalty was enacted against eating blood. In Peter’s vision (Acts 10) when he was told to arise, kill and eat, he promptly protested that he had never eaten anything unclean. A little later the Jerusalem Council, legislating for the Christian dispensation, ratified a provision against the eating of blood: “...that ye abstain from things sacrificed to idols, and from blood” (Acts 15:29). It is impossible to believe that when the apostles thus set forth the law of God they were themselves partakers, not merely of animal blood, but of human blood—as they would have been if in the Lord’s Supper they regularly ate the literal flesh and blood of Christ.

The Roman Church acknowledges that in the mass there is no visible change in the bread and wine, that they continue to have the same properties: the same taste, color, smell, weight, and dimensions. It should be sufficient to refute this doctrine to point out that it involves an impossibility. It is impossible that the attributes or sensible properties of bread and wine should remain if the substance has been changed. It is self-evident that if the attributes of flesh and blood are not there, the actual flesh and blood are not there. When Jesus changed the water into wine at Cana of Galilee, there was no question but that it was wine. It had the properties of wine. But since the bread and wine in the eucharist do not have the attributes of flesh and blood, it is absurd to say that any such change has taken place. That which contradicts our reason must be pronounced irrational. Yet the adherents of Rome, under threat of eternal condemnation, are forced to believe what their church tells them, even though it contradicts their senses. The effect cannot be other than detrimental when men are forced to accept as true that which they know to be false. Says Henry M. Woods:

“If men think at all, they know that what the papal church requires them to believe in the eucharist, under penalty of an eternal curse, is a monstrous untruth. They know they are eating bread, not human flesh: and they know that no human priest can offer a real atoning sacrifice for sin” (Our Priceless Heritage , p. 107).

When the Roman priest consecrates the wafer it is then called the “host,” and they worship it as God. But if the doctrine of transubstantiation is false, then the “host” is no more the body of Christ than is any other piece of bread. And if the soul and divinity of Christ are not present, then the worship of it is sheer idolatry, of the same kind as that of pagan tribes who worship fetishes.    unquote

So you should understand you are being forced to believe what the Roman catechism and church says about the bread and wine, not what the Bible says.  It is obviously figurative, not literal.

Also read Paul's Epistle to the Hebrews.  It is clear Jesus' sacrifice was a one time event, never to be repeated.  The whole claim that priests are re-enacting the sacrifice of Jesus is therefore completely false.  Nowhere does the Scripture give priests the power to re-enact the sacrifice of Jesus.

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12 hours ago, blackbird said:

Here are over a hundred verses showing salvation is by faith alone.

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The Bible is clear that salvation is by faith alone in Jesus Christ!

Genesis 15:6: “And he believed in the LORD; and he counted it to him for righteousness.”

Habakkuk 2:4: “Behold, his soul which is lifted up is not upright in him: but the just shall live by his faith.”

Mark 1:15: “And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.”

Mark 16:16: “He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.”

Luke 8:12: “Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.”

Luke 7:50: “And he said to the woman, Thy faith hath saved thee; go in peace.”

Luke 8:12: “Those by the way side are they that hear; then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.”

John 1:12: “But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:”

John 3:(14,)15: “And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.“

John 3:16: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”

John 3:18: “He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”

John 3:36: “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.”

John 5:24: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.”

John 6:35: “And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.”

John 6:40: “And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day. “

John 6:47: “Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.”

John 7:38: “He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water.”

John 8:24: “I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.”

John 11:25: “Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:”

John 11:26: “And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?”

John 12:46: “I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.”

John 16:27: “For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.”

John 20:31: “But these are written, that ye might believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing ye might have life through his name.”

Acts 2:21: “And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Acts 5:14: “And believers were the more added to the Lord, multitudes both of men and women.)”

Acts 8:12: “But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”

Acts 8:13: “Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.”

Acts 8:37 (8:35-38): “Then Philip opened his mouth, and began at the same scripture, and preached unto him Jesus. And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized? And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. And he commanded the chariot to stand still: and they went down both into the water, both Philip and the eunuch; and he baptized him.”

Acts 10:43: “To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.”

Acts 11:17,18: “Forasmuch then as God gave them the like gift as he did unto us, who believed on the Lord Jesus Christ; what was I, that I could withstand God? When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.”

Acts 11:21: “And the hand of the Lord was with them: and a great number believed, and turned unto the Lord.”

Acts 13:39: “And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.”

Acts 13:48: “And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.”

Acts 15:7-9: “And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe. And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; and put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.”

Acts 16:31: “And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.”

Acts 18:8: “And Crispus, the chief ruler of the synagogue, believed on the Lord with all his house; and many of the Corinthians hearing believed, and were baptized.”

Acts 22:16: “And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.”

Acts 26:18: “To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me.”

Romans 1:16: “For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.”

Romans 1:17: “For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.”

Romans 3:22a: “Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe:”

Romans 3:25: “Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;”

Romans 3:26: “To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.”

Romans 3:28: “Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.”

Romans 3:30: “Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.”

Romans 4:3: “For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.”

Romans 4:5: “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”

Romans 4:9: “Cometh this blessedness then upon the circumcision only, or upon the uncircumcision also? for we say that faith was reckoned to Abraham for righteousness.”

Romans 4:11: “And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:”

Romans 4:13: “For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.”

Romans 4:16,17: “Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all, (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.”

Romans 4:18-22: “Who against hope believed in hope, that he might become the father of many nations, according to that which was spoken, So shall thy seed be. And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah’s womb: he staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; and being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness.”

Romans 5:1: “Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:”

Romans 5:2: “By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.”

Romans 4:20-25: “He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God; and being fully persuaded that, what he had promised, he was able also to perform. And therefore it was imputed to him for righteousness. Now it was not written for his sake alone, that it was imputed to him; but for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead; who was delivered for our offences, and was raised again for our justification.”

Romans 9:30: “What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.”

Romans 9:32,33: “Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone; as it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumblingstone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.”

Romans 10:4: “For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.”

Romans 10:6a: “But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise…”

Romans 10:9: “That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.”

Romans 10:10: “For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.”

Romans 10:11: “For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.”

Romans 10:13: “For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.”

Romans 10:14-17: “How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher? And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things! But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report? So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.”

Romans 11:20: “Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:”

1 Corinthians 1:21: “For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.”

1 Corinthians 15:2: “By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.”

1 Corinthians 15:17: “And if Christ be not raised, your faith is vain; ye are yet in your sins.”

2 Corinthians 4:4: “In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.”

2 Corinthians 6:14: “Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness?”

2 Corinthians 6:15: “And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel?”

Galatians 2:16: “Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.”

Galatians 2:20: “I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.”

Galatians 3:6,7: “Even as Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness. Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.”

Galatians 3:8: “And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.”

Galatians 3:11: “But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.”

Galatians 3:14: “That the blessing of Abraham might come on the Gentiles through Jesus Christ; that we might receive the promise of the Spirit through faith.”

Galatians 3:22: “But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.”

Galatians 3:24: “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.”

Galatians 3:26: “For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.”

Galatians 5:5: “For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith.”

Ephesians 1:13: “In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,”

Ephesians 1:19: “And what is the exceeding greatness of his power to us-ward who believe, according to the working of his mighty power,”

Ephesians 2:8,9: “For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: not of works, lest any man should boast.”

Philippians 3:9: “And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:”

Colossians 1:4,5: “Since we heard of your faith in Christ Jesus, and of the love which ye have to all the saints, for the hope which is laid up for you in heaven, wherefore ye heard before in the word of the truth of the gospel;”

Colossians 2:12: “Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.”

1 Thessalonians 2:13: “For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.”

2 Thessalonians 1:10: “When he shall come to be glorified in his saints, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.”

2 Thessalonians 2:12: “That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.”

1 Timothy 1:16: “Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting.”

1 Timothy 4:10: “For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.”

2 Timothy 3:15: “And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.”

Hebrews 3:18: “And to whom sware he that they should not enter into his rest, but to them that believed not?”

Hebrews 4:2: “For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.”

Hebrews 4:3a: “For we which have believed do enter into rest…”

Hebrews 11:7: “By faith Noah, being warned of God of things not seen as yet, moved with fear, prepared an ark to the saving of his house; by the which he condemned the world, and became heir of the righteousness which is by faith.”

Hebrews 11:31: “By faith the harlot Rahab perished not with them that believed not, when she had received the spies with peace.”

Hebrews 10:38: “Now the just shall live by faith: but if any man draw back, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.”

Hebrews 10:39: “But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition; but of them that believe to the saving of the soul.”

Hebrews 11:6: “But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.”

James 2:5: “Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?”

James 2:23: “And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.”

1 Peter 1:5: “Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.”

1 Peter 1:9: “Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.”

1 Peter 1:18-21: “Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; but with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you, who by him do believe in God, that raised him up from the dead, and gave him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.”1 Peter 2:6: “Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.”

1 Peter 2:7: “Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,”

1 John 5:1a: “Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God…”

1 John 5:4: “For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.”

1 John 5:5: “Who is he that overcometh the world, but he that believeth that Jesus is the Son of God?”

1 John 5:10: “He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.”

1 John 5:13: “These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life, and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.”   unquote

100+ Bible Verses On Salvation By Faith Alone | New Covenant Baptist Church - Spokane, WA

Two things, first Jesus said, Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved. 

Second, James is clear we are not saved by faith alone. 

BTW not a single one of those verses says faith alone. AGAIN you confuse volume with accuracy. 

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12 hours ago, blackbird said:

You claim you have the correct interpretation of Jesus' words but you take his words on the bread and wine literally when it clearly is not meant to be taken literally.  This article explains why it cannot be meant literal.  Jesus often spoke figuratively.

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This doctrine of the mass, of course, is based on the assumption that the words of Christ, “This is my body,” and “This is my blood” (Matthew 6:26-28), must be taken literally. The accounts of the institution of the Lord’s Supper, both in the Gospels and in Paul’s letter to the Corinthians, make it perfectly clear that He spoke in figurative terms. Jesus aid, “This cup is the new covenant in my blood” (Luke 22:20). And Paul quotes Jesus as saying: “This is the new covenant in my blood. ... or as oft as ye eat this bread, and drink the cup, ye proclaim the Lord’s death till he come” (1 Corinthians 11:25-26). In these words He used a double figure of speech. The cup is put for the wine, and the wine is called the new covenant. The cup was not literally the new covenant, although it is declared to be so as definitely as the bread is declared to be His body. They did not literally drink the cup, nor did they literally drink the new covenant. How ridiculous to say that they did! Nor was the bread literally His body, or the wine His blood. After giving the wine to the disciples Jesus said, “I shall not drink from henceforth of the fruit of the vine, until the kingdom of God shall come” (Luke 22:18). So the wine, even as He gave it to them, and after He had given it to hem, remained “the fruit of the vine”! Paul too says that the bread remains bread: “Wherefore whosoever shall eat the bread and drink the pup of the Lord in an unworthy manner. ... But let each man prove himself, and so let him eat of the bread, and drink of the cup” (1 Corinthians 1:27-28). No change had taken place in the elements. This was after the prayer of consecration, when the Church of Rome supposes the change took place, and Jesus and Paul both declare that the elements still are bread and wine.

Another and more important proof that the bread and wine are not changed into the literal and actual flesh and blood of Christ is this: the literal interpretation makes the sacrament a form of cannibalism. For that is precisely what cannibalism is—the eating of human flesh. Rome attempts to deny this, but not with much logic. Clearly there is a contradiction in the Romanist explanation somewhere.

Indeed, how can Christ’s words, “This is my body,” and, “This is my blood,” be taken in a literal sense? At the time those words were spoken, the bread and wine were on the table before Him, and in His body He was sitting at the table a living man. The crucifixion had not taken place. They ate the Lord’s Supper before the crucifixion took place. Furthermore, we do not, and cannot memorialize someone who is present, as the Romanists say Christ is present in the mass. But in the future, in His absence, these things would symbolize His broken body and shed blood. They would then call to mind His sacrifice, and would then be taken in remembrance” of Him (1 Corinthians 11:25).

Jesus’ words, “This do in remembrance of me,” show that the Lord’s Supper was not some kind of magical operation, but primarily a memorial, instituted to call Christians throughout the ages to remember the wondrous cross of the crucified Lord and all its marvelous benefits and lessons for us. A memorial does not present the reality, in this case His true body and blood, but something quite different, which serves only as a reminder of the real thing.

We often show a friend a photograph and say, “This is my wife”; “This is my son”; “This is my daughter.” Such language is readily understood in ordinary conversation. Nobody takes such words literally. The Bible is written in the language of the common people. Hence it is perfectly obvious to any observant reader that the Lord’s Supper was intended primarily as a simple memorial feast, in no sense a literal reincarnation of Christ.  unquote

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I've been through this with you already. I pointed where Jesus was speaking figuratively but he changed and spoke literally.  You have decided he couldn't possibly be speaking literally. If you won't listen to Jesus so you won't listen to me but that won't stop me from telling you the truth. 

I even showed you that in the earliest days of the church they believed what Jesus said that we must eat his flesh and drink his blood. 

Keep copying and pasting like a trained monkey though, it seems to make you feel better a jut ignoring Jesus. 

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