Nikki Haley: a courageous stance

[myata]

11 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

I did.

No you didn't. Not in this reality and I can't really care what of the alternative ones. Just for the factual record:

- Praised Un, "very honorable". Un then led the red buffoon around the finger, added all kinds of weapons conducted tests as nothing happened.

- All but withdrew from the confrontation with brutal dictator Asad in Syria.

- Engineered catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan.

- Did nothing to stand up to brutal thug Putin's blatant aggression and support fighting Ukraine.

- Declared that NATO as "dead" and promised to take the U.S. out of it.

Can you win any wars if you run away from every single confrontation with a brutal dictator thug? What is the show of might for, if you have no brain or will to use it? Only in you bizarre dreams.

That's the reality, brainless converts of the holy lying buffoon, not some colorful bubbles you want to blow yourself in your hopeless minds (if it can be called that, and that's no offense by the way, only a genuine discussion topic: can something that has no capacity of objective perception and critical thought be still called "a mind"?)

 

Edited January 20, 2024 by myata

[Nationalist]

19 hours ago, myata said:

It's a fun alternate reality you must be enjoying back there. Dumb people falling for pathologically lying buffoons? What was the count last time, into millions? What can be more boring ooh.

Do you want to check what actually happened the last time rather than blowing fancy bubbles in those dreams? No way?

I'm getting concerned for you myata. You are completely irrational. How are you gonna deal with trumps next reign as POTUS? 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

I'm getting concerned for you myata. You are completely irrational. How are you gonna deal with trumps next reign as POTUS? 

It could be bad.. It might cause enough brain damage that he'd lose his ability to speak clearly, he could have trouble focusing, his cognitive reasoning could be seriously impaired.

Oh..wait.......

[myata]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

trumps next reign as POTUS? 

People who are sane and courageous should not let insanity prevail. You can blow yourself all kinds of fancy balloons in your mind but this is only your imagination. You wouldn't know the difference though, why bother replying.

[Guest]

11 hours ago, myata said:

Engineered catastrophic withdrawal from Afghanistan.

All that to excuse the disastrous pullout from Biden. The pullout wasn't the issue. How the US pulled out, was.

11 hours ago, myata said:

Declared that NATO as "dead" and promised to take the U.S. out of it.

He could have all the tantrums that he wants. The only question you should ask, is how?

12 hours ago, myata said:

All but withdrew from the confrontation with brutal dictator Asad in Syria.

Were they truly in Syria because Asad is brutal?

Do you honestly think wars are fought to help people? Not to protect your own national interests?

You're questioning the intellect of anyone that challenges you, which doesn't make your side of the story any truer.

[robosmith]

On 1/18/2024 at 7:36 PM, Nationalist said:

It hilarious how much you want war, yet won't go to war yourself.

"Necessary to fight" and "want war" are two VERY DIFFERENT things. Duh

Even if I "want to fight a war," they would not take me. Duh

Just like YOU are TOO OLD.

I do my fighting on the basketball court. Do you?

 

Edited January 20, 2024 by robosmith

[robosmith]

On 1/19/2024 at 5:51 AM, Perspektiv said:

Or you build up your power and project absolute power, to keep people in line. 

People didn't challenge Trump, as they knew the consequences would be devastating. 

Its a deterrent effect.

Same reason you won't find too many takers trying to bomb Beijing. They know they would be wiped from the face of the earth, and their kids kidnapped so they could watch.

I knew my mom was crazy, so I stayed in line.

You don't need to fight wars but electing leaders that project softness make people feel they can test the waters.

If consequences are mild, they escalate.

Even Jong Un wanted to meet with Trump, to avoid miscalculation. 

When you have a political party literally built to extort the US by creating drama when they need money getting a firm taste if their own medicine, it's jarring.

They know with Trump they launch a single missle, there would be a return volley of 40 coming back their way.

He has a laundry list of personality issues and faults, but one thing he did very well, is deter war.

He certainly didn't deter NK nuke nor missile programs.

Trump's surrender to Putin didn't avoid war, either.

[Legato]

On 1/17/2024 at 1:46 AM, myata said:

The mindless crowd led by the pipe of a pathologically lying buffoon will likely not notice another interesting coincidence: the infamous dictator Vlad Putin never participated in the election debates. He sets himself way above that level. He doesn't need to formulate and defend ideas and policies, only profess coined truths of the day. The other, "common candidates" just play a warm-up troupe, cheerleading show for the default and unquestionable guru.

OK. If formerly proud democratic party decided to reduce itself to this pathetically ridiculous level so be it. The choice is theirs, conscious and free. Important to know and remember though: one does not have to accept it.

Accepting the insane is a choice, not a given. There is no obligation to join in. You have a choice.

Kudos to Nikki for remembering, and reminding this simple, but important truth. You don't have to play a liar and bully's game and into their hands. You can call it.

This is principle, reason and courage. The only example, as it seems, in the whole slew.

Update: the debate was cancelled by the network.

Well done, Nikki. This is the only way to deal with a pathological liar who is allergic to a single word of truth and relies on his mindless mob to do the work for him.

You cannot give a bully their wish, they'll just come back for more. The Republican party may very well be taking the path of collective insanity, consciously and deliberately turning off their integrity and principles, critical minds and objective perception of the reality. But, it's your choice still; you don't have to. With time, they may come to understand the colossal failure of their judgement. There will be no excuses. Consciousness is not a free gift, but a privilege and responsibility. Dereliction, failure of it: only a choice.

There were 13 ghosts, seems like you had a somewhat debilitating encounter with all of them.

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, robosmith said:

 

Even if I "want to fight a war," they would not take me. Duh

 

That's true @Nationalist.  There is, after all, a minimum intelligence requirement.

"Applicants are required by military regulation to have a percentile score on a standardized test called the ASVAB that is 31 or more, which is roughly comparable to an IQ score on the Stanford-Binet scale of a little bit less than 92, for high school graduates seeking to enter the Army or Navy"

I mean, there's just no way he's getting in.

[Guest]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

He certainly didn't deter NK nuke nor missile programs.

Trump's surrender to Putin didn't avoid war, either.

How many wars with him in office? 

Numbers don't lie. Being business as usual for Kim Jung Un is irrelevant. 

[robosmith]

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

How many wars with him in office? 

Afghanistan, Syria, Donbass/Crimea, and cold war with NK.

10 minutes ago, Perspektiv said:

Numbers don't lie. Being business as usual for Kim Jung Un is irrelevant. 

NK is highly relevant when they got an ICBM on Trump's watch.

Quote

2017

 

Since 2017, North Korea has carried out a slew of ICBM tests in a bid to acquire the ability to launch nuclear strikes on the U.S. mainland.

 

[CdnFox]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

NK is highly relevant when they got an ICBM on Trump's watch.

They did tests - they don't have one  

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, myata said:

People who are sane and courageous should not let insanity prevail. You can blow yourself all kinds of fancy balloons in your mind but this is only your imagination. You wouldn't know the difference though, why bother replying.

Ya...that makes sense...

[Nationalist]

6 hours ago, robosmith said:

"Necessary to fight" and "want war" are two VERY DIFFERENT things. Duh

Even if I "want to fight a war," they would not take me. Duh

Just like YOU are TOO OLD.

I do my fighting on the basketball court. Do you?

 

No. I don't enjoy basketball. The NBA is nothing but a China tool now.

Good attempt at warping things but, it's obvious what you want.

[Guest]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Afghanistan, Syria, Donbass/Crimea, and cold war with NK.

Are those new wars while he was in office or existing ones? 

[myata]

12 hours ago, Perspektiv said:

You're questioning the intellect of anyone that challenges you

I'm not questioning; it's an objective fact: how smart is someone who sees a piece of dog sh*t on the ground and eats it for a cake because someone told them it is?

What great achievements, where? He ran from every single confrontation and cowered to bloody tyrants like Putin and Un, "genius", "very honorable". Un led him around his finger, on one-three. He's a coward and a patented liar and he's spinning dumb lies about his toughness and prowess in fixing conflicts without any substance in the reality. And the simple minded converts like who? buying it all, hook and the sinker. Like who else would do that? What other rational explanations? See?

[myata]

But back to the point, why couldn't the buffoon go to the debates?

The easy answer: because he's a coward. He has nothing to say of a substance only the mantras for his mindless mob.

And she probably knew that. And put him right on the spot for that.  Now he has to walk back, that he will never do being a buffoon full of ... himself; or he'll damage his own party that he couldn't care about less as long as his mob chants for him.

Good move; and the only one that works with a lying bully.

Edited January 21, 2024 by myata

[Guest]

7 hours ago, myata said:

who sees a piece of dog sh*t on the ground and eats it for a cake because someone told them it is?

You're dismissing the ability of people to think for themselves. 

Instead of questioning their intellect, you should instead ask yourself what is Biden and the Democrat party doing so poorly, that people would prefer the piece of s*** on the ground.

Biden advertised himself as cake, but after 4 years of eating it, Americans are noticing the cake smells and tastes funny in comparison to what they were used to. Testing the ingredients, would have many livid. 

What Biden is doing is presenting as cake. Its shit, layered on with batter, chocolate and the like.

Didn't he make mountains of promises including transparency levels that would almost be unprecedented. When you lie about the most basic and easily achievable part of your promise, it becomes hard to trust you.

Trump is straight to the point. He's a piece of s***. He does as he says he will do.

Why would someone trust someone who is crooked and smells, but still follows through? I wonder.

Americans won't care about the PR. What's in it for me, is the only question most will ask.

6 hours ago, myata said:

why couldn't the buffoon go to the debates?

He didn't need to. Cowardice for sure as he would get roasted about Jan 6, and his many failings.

However he knew not going would be free press as all candidates leaned heavy on his name. He still skyrocketed in the polls.

6 hours ago, myata said:

And she probably knew that.

She also knew she couldn't hit him hard or below the belt. He would eat her for breakfast. 

She worked for him, not the other way around.

She has flipped flopped on many subjects, so he has tons of material he could pick her apart on.

She's smart enough to stay in her lane as she couldn't win at his game.

If she plays her cards right, people will see it as intelligence. 

Others will perceive it as weakness. How is that personality going to boldly confront other countries.

[myata]

So, she was the only real one, with the balls, in the whole bunch? And the rest of so called candidates, only the stooges of the buffoon. Following Vlad "the genius" steps. Great. Let's guess: the mob will start harassing her now to quit.

The Republican Party of North Korea. That was quick. And easy too.

Edited January 22, 2024 by myata

[myata]

The Republican party is parting its ways with democracy. First it tried to co-exist with an authoritarian sect, then to compromise with it and seek its support. Now it's giving it the reins and submitting to it. Objectivity and truth lost on the way. Only our version of it matters now. One of these days we're about to witness the conclusion of this trek. And if it ends up in a failure of historical scale, there may not be no redemption back to normality from this chasm.

The democracy was about way more than using this tools and tricks to get to that chair. Every dictator can do and does just that. It's about the integrity; principles; responsibility for one's words and actions; responsibility to the people. All of that seems to be going these days: fast. You forgot or never got to think about it. It is no excuse or explanation.

One has a choice to make here: does the group, gang, cult, sect etc get to define you, what you think and what you do? Or you define yourself, your thought and your act. In the times like these there may not be the middle ground. You have to choose, and you will be making that choice whatever you do.

Edited January 23, 2024 by myata

[myata]

This is exactly that you do at the time when a group is choosing to lose sanity. You tell them things as they are. You stand up and keep telling it, till there's not a chance that they don't know or couldn't understand. You get them to the point where they know exactly what they are choosing; that they couldn't claim ever, in any outcome that they didn't know what they were getting into.

And then you make your choice. Sanity and integrity is a choice; there's no obligation to go insane just because someone else wants to do that.

Edited January 24, 2024 by myata

[myata]

The Republicans still have the time: but the window is closes, to retain their integrity and values. With them, a claim to a respectable future.

There were all the reasons to support resistance to the rise of Hitler in the last century. One could not run away from this choice. In the times like these, there are no set rules and procedures, only the objective: to face and overcome the societal, or existential challenge.

If the Republicans betray now every single claim and principle America has made and has been holding to till now, there will be no excuses and no explanations. Every name will be written to, and recited in the long history. This is what is at stake here: you can make no mistakes here. You will not explain it, or anything by raising hands and pushing buttons. The heart of America will be empty and you will have nothing to say but praises and odes to the Great Leader. Others walked this path before; and you are on its threshold. You saw it and you were warned. No way you couldn't have know where and what you were walking into.

The buffoon is on the public record admiring totalitarian thugs and dictators. He ran away from every single confrontation with them. He promised to take the U.S. out of NATO, to leave the world defenseless against the rising Axis of tyrants. There's no way you didn't know. You are making this choice now. Only you will carry the responsibility for it: in ages and generations.