Jury Orders Giuliani to Pay $148 Million to Election Workers He Defamed

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

An example of a whole assortment of individuals committing crimes to steal an election was the Russian collusion show trial, where several members of the FBI were fired, demoted and/or criminally charged, and the Dems hijacked the DOJ for three years just to keep their Big Lie going. 

There was NO TRIAL for "Russian collusion." Duh

Barr followed the OLC memo policy which prohibits indicting the POTUS and Trump pardoned everyone else involved.

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, West said:

Yet you folks could make up all sorts of bs for years 

What the fck is the matter with you?  A jury awarded the verdict. Get over it.  

Rudy repeatedly ignored standard court orders for evidence and financial disclosures, several times, until the judge got so fed up that he made a summary judgment of guilt. That’s how lawsuits work: If someone sues you and you don’t show up to court, you lose.  

The verdict was decided by Rudy’s conduct in court. The amount of the award was decided by the jury.  
 

Those are the facts and it’s sad that you’re so ignorant that you cannot see the truth when it’s right in front of you.   Probably because you have the IQ of a flea. 

[Rebound]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

An example of a whole assortment of individuals committing crimes to steal an election was the Russian collusion show trial, where several members of the FBI were fired, demoted and/or criminally charged, and the Dems hijacked the DOJ for three years just to keep their Big Lie going. 

Five Trump campaign associates were convicted by the Mueller investigation.  Stone, Gates, Flynn, Cohen, and Manafort.
 

34 total indictments.  
https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

Edited December 17, 2023 by Rebound

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Rebound said:

What the fck is the matter with you?  A jury awarded the verdict. Get over it.  

Rudy repeatedly ignored standard court orders for evidence and financial disclosures, several times, until the judge got so fed up that he made a summary judgment of guilt. That’s how lawsuits work: If someone sues you and you don’t show up to court, you lose.  

The verdict was decided by Rudy’s conduct in court. The amount of the award was decided by the jury.  
 

Those are the facts and it’s sad that you’re so ignorant that you cannot see the truth when it’s right in front of you.   Probably because you have the IQ of a flea. 

That's rather INSULTING to FLEAS.

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Rebound said:

Five Trump campaign associates were convicted by the Mueller investigation.  Stone, Gates, Flynn, Cohen, and Manafort.
 

34 total indictments.  
https://time.com/5556331/mueller-investigation-indictments-guilty-pleas/

Can you point to the CONVICTIONS that were the result of COLLUSION? Of course not. You just point to these red herrings. 

Did you miss the part about the FBI lying and committing actual crimes, Rebound?

Did you miss the part where the FBI said that they never actually acquired any proof of actual collusion? 

Do you think it's weird that the people you just referred to served jailtime for allegedly lying to the FBI, just verbally, but the FBI lied to the FISA court every time they applied for a FISA warrant and no one from the FBI went to jail? Kevin Clinesmith is they guy who had to fall on his sword for editing the email that was edited from "Page is a CIA asset" to "Page was not a CIA asset". He wasn't even disbarred. 

Do you understand the different level of 'busted' between:

1. Saying something that winds up being wrong
2. Getting caught editing an inter-agency email - from the CIA to the FBI no less - to reverse its meaning completely, and then presenting it a judge in order to implicate the president of the United States in a crime? 

One of those things could be a mistake, or a misunderstanding, or could be the most trivial of lies. No one even mentioned what 'the lie' was about...

One of those things is a premeditated, calculated lie of an enormous magnitude which caused an immense amount of damage to the reputations of the CIA and FBI. 

Let's send people to jail for the first one and do absolutely nothing in the second instance.

 

Honestly, you need to take a hike, Rebound. 

The 'facts' that you cited aren't proof of Russian collusion at all. There are NO COLLUSION-RELATED CONVICTIONS HERE, THERE, OR ANYWHERE. What you proved is that a bunch known of liars and criminals charged people for committing smaller crimes than they themselves committed on this case, and then they gave the other guys jailtime and themselves nothing.

You just illustrated what banana republic justice looks like. You're here celebrating banana republic justice...

[Rebound]

7 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Can you point to the CONVICTIONS that were the result of COLLUSION? Of course not. You just point to these red herrings. 

Did you miss the part about the FBI lying and committing actual crimes, Rebound?

Did you miss the part where the FBI said that they never actually acquired any proof of actual collusion? 

Do you think it's weird that the people you just referred to served jailtime for allegedly lying to the FBI, just verbally, but the FBI lied to the FISA court every time they applied for a FISA warrant and no one from the FBI went to jail? Kevin Clinesmith is they guy who had to fall on his sword for editing the email that was edited from "Page is a CIA asset" to "Page was not a CIA asset". He wasn't even disbarred. 

Do you understand the different level of 'busted' between:

1. Saying something that winds up being wrong
2. Getting caught editing an inter-agency email - from the CIA to the FBI no less - to reverse its meaning completely, and then presenting it a judge in order to implicate the president of the United States in a crime? 

One of those things could be a mistake, or a misunderstanding, or could be the most trivial of lies. No one even mentioned what 'the lie' was about...

One of those things is a premeditated, calculated lie of an enormous magnitude which caused an immense amount of damage to the reputations of the CIA and FBI. 

Let's send people to jail for the first one and do absolutely nothing in the second instance.

 

Honestly, you need to take a hike, Rebound. 

The 'facts' that you cited aren't proof of Russian collusion at all. There are NO COLLUSION-RELATED CONVICTIONS HERE, THERE, OR ANYWHERE. What you proved is that a bunch known of liars and criminals charged people for committing smaller crimes than they themselves committed on this case, and then they gave the other guys jailtime and themselves nothing.

You just illustrated what banana republic justice looks like. You're here celebrating banana republic justice...

Did you know that there is no law against collusion, and that’s the reason why your convicted fraud rapist Trump keeps repeating that no collusion convictions occurred? The legal term is conspiracy.

 

At his trial, there was abundant evidence presented that Roger Stone colluded with Wikileaks on the release of stolen DNC emails. Stone himself testified to that fact. So all you’re doing here is pretending that no crime occurred (even though there were convictions) by repeatedly changing the name of the crime to a crime which does not exist. 

What you’re doing is the equivalent to claiming that you were never convicted of killing anyone, because there is no law against killing, there are laws against manslaughter and murder. But you keep saying, “But I wasn’t convicted of killing anybody!!!” Stupld people fall for these ridiculous arguments. Intelligent people do not.

Edited December 17, 2023 by Rebound

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, Rebound said:

Did you know that there is no law against collusion, and that’s the reason why your convicted fraud rapist Trump keeps repeating that no collusion convictions occurred? The legal term is conspiracy.

Do you know that it's leftists who called it collusion, not Trump?

They're the ones who said that he "colluded with Russians", and they're the ones who committed crimes on their way to zero convictions and collecting zero evidence.

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At his trial, there was abundant evidence presented that Roger Stone colluded with Wikileaks on the release of stolen DNC emails. Stone himself testified to that fact. So all you’re doing here is pretending that no crime occurred (even though there were convictions) by repeatedly changing the name of the crime to a crime which does not exist. 

FYI Wikileaks isn't a part of the Russian gov't. Getting leaked emails from wikileaks isn't nearly the same thing as soliciting Russians to hack the email server of a political foe.

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What you’re doing is the equivalent to claiming that you were never convicted of killing anyone, because there is no law against killing, there are laws against manslaughter and murder. But you keep saying, “But I wasn’t convicted of killing anybody!!!” Stupld people fall for these ridiculous arguments. Intelligent people do not.

What I'm doing is telling you that collusion/conspiracy never occurred.

I'm telling you that no one ever came up with any evidence that it did. 

In case you missed it, there are two real stories here:

1. The Dems got caught cheating Bernie Sanders in the 2016 election, bigtime, so this whole story revolves around yet another instance of known Dem/FBI election cheating. The Dems, along with CNN, conspired to get Hillary past Bernie Sanders for the Dem primary, and part of that was getting the debate questions for her in advance. The emails that showed proof of the Dems/CNN election cheating were almost certainly leaked by someone in the DNC: a) Keep in mind that 50% of Dems preferred Bernie, and it only takes 1 leaker b) wikileaks said that their source was a leak and they've never been proven wrong once to this day c) no one has ever proven that the DNC server was hacked. Crowdstrike's CEO testified to that in court, and he's the only person who ever directly investigated that server.
2. The Dems and FBI committed several serious crimes and told thousands of lies about Trump Russia collusion, and they have never provided a single piece of evidence that Trump's team did anything illegal or improper with any Russians. They even set up an entrapment session with Natalia Veselnitskaya but they couldn't get the Trump team to say anything improper.  NV met with the Fusion GPS co-founder before and after that Trump Tower session, so clearly this was yet another example of Hillary/the Dems/the FBI working with (colluding/conspiring with) Russians to influence the outcome of the 2016 election. 

Stupid people see the FBI's convictions against Manafort and others and take that as evidence that collusion occurred, but not a single one of the convictions you just referenced ever came from Trump's team doing anything with Russians. 

It's like if they charged Trump's guys with throwing rocks at airplanes, and then indicted them for throwing rocks at airplanes plus tax evasion, etc, find them guilty of "tax evasion" and "obstructing injustice", and then convince dummies like you to walk around saying that "they were guilty of throwing rocks at airplanes". If you look closely at your link, you'll see that they weren't found guilty of throwing rocks at airplanes, just the same as collusion. 

Do you understand that by posting a link that says "Manafort was guilty of tax evasion", you were not posting a link that proved Russian collusion occurred? You literally just tried to pass that link of as proof of collusion and it's absolutely not proof of any collusion whatsoever. Stop being such a f'ing weasel. 

[BeaverFever]

18 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

An example of a whole assortment of individuals committing crimes to steal an election was the Russian collusion show trial, where several members of the FBI were fired, demoted and/or criminally charged, and the Dems hijacked the DOJ for three years just to keep their Big Lie going. 

What total Bullshit, not only in your fabricated conspiracy that the Trumps Durham witch hunt failed to prove but also in your lame attempt to tie that to “stealing an election”.  
 

The real amd only BIG LIE continues to Trump’s false claim that the 2020 election was still and his multiple failed schemes to actually steal it. 
 

 

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

What total Bullshit, not only in your fabricated conspiracy that the Trumps Durham witch hunt failed to prove but also in your lame attempt to tie that to “stealing an election”.  

Hewwo cowushin boy! ?

There was no failure to prove anything about the witch hunt. It's as fake as advertised: 

1. The FBI absolutely committed several crimes, Kevin Clinesmith pleaded guilty to 1 charge of falsifying evidence and providing it to the FISA court. 
2. The Dems were trying to get Trump impeached and removed from office for 3 full years, dummy
3. The Dems and FBI kept promising "bombshell evidence this weekend" for 3 years and all of their bombshells turned into "we ended up with no evidence at all of Russian collusion". 

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The real amd only BIG LIE continues to Trump’s false claim that the 2020 election was still and his multiple failed schemes to actually steal it. 

Collusion was the big lie. 

The big STUPID lie was "Jan 6th was an armed insurrection with the intent of overthrowing democracy, and it almost succeeded". 

Your Jan 6th story was just as stupid as your Ukrainian war story.

Jan 6th: "We knew that there was going to be an insurrection because of all the insurrectionist chatter, but we didn't do anything to prevent it, so a few hundred unarmed dudes nearly overthrew the United States. Yeah. Also, despite the fact that the riot was pre-planned, it mainly happened because Trump said "Let's stroll peacefully...". Oh man, you could tell that he got his followers ginned up into a homicidal frenzy right there..."

Ukrainian war: "There are 15,000 dead Russian soldiers, about 1,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers, and 700 dead Ukrainian civilians. The Russians are clearly committing genocide."

Pro tip: If you're gonna lie, at least make your lies somewhat believable. Don't make them so stupid that only Beave and Rebound can be sucked in by them, hey?

[godzilla]

there was no definitive proof of Russian collusion. just a bunch of weird pandering to the genius Putin from the other genius Trump.

Trump tried to have Ukraine create bogus investigations on Biden in order to release weapon supplies. thats a crime.

the January 6th protest/attack on the capital wasn't going anywhere. just a bunch of yahoos.

Trump took home lots of classified materials. refused to give them back and lied about having them to the FBI. thats a crime.

Trump and his team had fake electors sign certificates and then Trump tried to have Pence delay certification of the election based on those fake electors. thats a crime.

Edited December 18, 2023 by godzilla

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Hewwo cowushin boy! ?

There was no failure to prove anything about the witch hunt. It's as fake as advertised: 

1. The FBI absolutely committed several crimes, Kevin Clinesmith pleaded guilty to 1 charge of falsifying evidence and providing it to the FISA court. 
2. The Dems were trying to get Trump impeached and removed from office for 3 full years, dummy
3. The Dems and FBI kept promising "bombshell evidence this weekend" for 3 years and all of their bombshells turned into "we ended up with no evidence at all of Russian collusion". 

Collusion was the big lie. 

The big STUPID lie was "Jan 6th was an armed insurrection with the intent of overthrowing democracy, and it almost succeeded". 

Your Jan 6th story was just as stupid as your Ukrainian war story.

Jan 6th: "We knew that there was going to be an insurrection because of all the insurrectionist chatter, but we didn't do anything to prevent it, so a few hundred unarmed dudes nearly overthrew the United States. Yeah. Also, despite the fact that the riot was pre-planned, it mainly happened because Trump said "Let's stroll peacefully...". Oh man, you could tell that he got his followers ginned up into a homicidal frenzy right there..."

Ukrainian war: "There are 15,000 dead Russian soldiers, about 1,000 dead Ukrainian soldiers, and 700 dead Ukrainian civilians. The Russians are clearly committing genocide."

Pro tip: If you're gonna lie, at least make your lies somewhat believable. Don't make them so stupid that only Beave and Rebound can be sucked in by them, hey?

Buddy your lies, distortions and selective memory are hilarious.  The truth is unbelievable to you because you are uneducated and unintelligent and brainwashed I mean these false narratives and conspiracies you keep pushing are not just lies they’re a junk drawer of gibberish and half-baked talking points that don’t even make sense or follow any logic. It’s just memorized talking points that you don’t even question  You kooks are like children who go around repeating things they overhear from their parents word for word without even understanding what it means  

8 guilty pleas and one conviction at trial for the dirty Trump goons who were convicted in the Muller investigation, including laundering Russian money.  meanwhile you got 1 guy on 1 charge because he wrote 4 words on an email. There was never any question that Trump campaign was colluding with Russians the only question was whether any of it was actually illegal. But of course Trump obstructed the investigation and was protected by his attorney general. Meanwhile the Durham investigation was a total flop that uncovered nothing  

Jan 6 riot was based on a belief that if congress could be prevented from certifying the election on that day it would nullify the election results because the constitution requires the election be certified exactly on that day and not any other day. It was definitely a hair-brained scheme to overthrow the government. 

And Trump never said the words “let’s stroll peacefully” you shameless liar 

The Russian invaders raped, murdered, abducted civilians, intentionally destroyed cultural artifacts, forcefully relocated Ukrainian civilians to Russia especially children. I never called it genocide but they’ve certainly committed major war crimes.  Unfortunately for the Russians their corrupt and incompetent military also sucks and they got their asses kicked once Ukraine launched a counteroffensive that liberated most of their country. However, Russia having a shitty military doesn’t cancel out their crimes against humanity.

Edited December 18, 2023 by BeaverFever

[robosmith]

19 hours ago, godzilla said:

there was no definitive proof of Russian collusion. just a bunch of weird pandering to the genius Putin from the other genius Trump.

In FACT, the Senate Intel Committee investigation found strong evidence of collusion between Manafort and Russian agent Kilimnik (who turned the info given to him by Manafort over to Russian intel).

RUSSIAN ACTIVE MEASURES CAMPAIGNS AND INTERFERENCE

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Prior to joining the Trump Campaign in March 2016 and continuing throughout his time 6n the Campaign, Manafort directly and indirectly communicated with Kilimnik, Deripaska, and the pro-Russian oligarchs in Ukraine. On numerous occasions, Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik. The Committee was unable to reliably determine why Manafort shared sensitive internal polling data or Campaign strategy with Kilimnik or with whom Kilimnik further shared that information. The Committee had limited insight into Kilimnik's communications with Manafort and into Kilimnik's communications with other individuals connected to Russian influence operations, all of whom used communications security practices. The Committee obtained some information suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the GRU's hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election. until

Beginning while he was Campaign chairman and continuing shared with Kilimnik a peace plan for eastern Ukraine that After the election, Manafort continued to coordinate with Russian persons, particularly Kilimnik and other individuals close to Deripaska, in an effort to undertake activities on their behalf. Manafort worked with Kilimnik starting in 2016 on narratives that sou ht to undermine evidence that Russia interfered in .the 2016 U.S. election. vi The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign at;td proximity to Trump created opportunities for Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. Taken as a whole, Manafort's high level access and willingness to share information with individuals closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik and associates of Oleg Deripaska, represented a grave counterintelligence threat.

Subsequently it was found that Kilimnik did share the PRIVATE polling info given him by Manafort with Russian intel.

[Rebound]

20 hours ago, godzilla said:

there was no definitive proof of Russian collusion. just a bunch of weird pandering to the genius Putin from the other genius Trump.

Trump tried to have Ukraine create bogus investigations on Biden in order to release weapon supplies. thats a crime.

the January 6th protest/attack on the capital wasn't going anywhere. just a bunch of yahoos.

Trump took home lots of classified materials. refused to give them back and lied about having them to the FBI. thats a crime.

Trump and his team had fake electors sign certificates and then Trump tried to have Pence delay certification of the election based on those fake electors. thats a crime.

So when Rudy Giuliani said there would be a huge dump of hacked data on Wikileaks, that didn’t prove collusion? And when Trump asked Russia to release Hillary’s hacked emails, he wasn’t asking Russia to release Hillary’s hacked emails?

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Buddy your lies, distortions and selective memory are hilarious.  The truth is unbelievable to you because you are uneducated and unintelligent and brainwashed I mean these false narratives and conspiracies you keep pushing are not just lies they’re a junk drawer of gibberish and half-baked talking points that don’t even make sense or follow any logic. It’s just memorized talking points that you don’t even question  You kooks are like children who go around repeating things they overhear from their parents word for word without even understanding what it means  

Blah blah ad hominem blah.

Just FYI your ad hominem attacks are meaningless because your credibility here is zero, collusion boy.

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8 guilty pleas and one conviction at trial for the dirty Trump goons who were convicted in the Muller investigation, including laundering Russian money.

None of those guilty pleas had anything to do with colluding with Russians. 

You staked your whole reputation on cowusion and you were wrong. 

The time for doubling down has long since passed, it's just time to let it go little boy.

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 meanwhile you got 1 guy on 1 charge because he wrote 4 words on an email.

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That's just a perfect example of how stupid you are.

"Those 4 words" amounted to:

1. A material lie of the utmost consequence
2. by the FBI
3. to the FISA court
4. used to obtain a warrant to spy on the Dems' (FBI's) political opponent, the duly elected President of the United States

As if the first 4 points weren't enough, this was just one of a litany of lies and crimes by the FBI. It was also a lie (CRIME) by the FBI to apply for the first warrant without disclosing to the FISA court judge that the CIA had emailed the FBI to let them know that Carter Page was a CIA asset. 

The FBI's conduct was so egregious that the FBI would literally cease to be a recognized police force if they were held accountable for all of their crimes. 

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There was never any question that Trump campaign was colluding with Russians the only question was whether any of it was actually illegal. But of course Trump obstructed the investigation and was protected by his attorney general. Meanwhile the Durham investigation was a total flop that uncovered nothing  

"Collusion" was literally a farce from day 1.

Trump joked about asking Russia for the missing 33k emails and the Dems/MSM acted like it was a serious request for help from Russia. Then Hillary's Russian pals created a fake dossier for her, her lawyer brought the Alfa Bank lies and BS to the FBI while pretending to be doing it as a good samaritan when he was actually acting as a partisan election cheater, then the FBI/Dems/MSM told a string of lies that would make Goebbels blush. 

Only the dumbest of the dumb still believe. (That's you, Beavey boy)

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Jan 6 riot was based on a belief that if congress could be prevented from certifying the election on that day it would nullify the election results because the constitution requires the election be certified exactly on that day and not any other day. It was definitely a hair-brained scheme to overthrow the government. 

Buddy, the whole "US gov't was almost overthrown on Jan 6th" story is complete BS. It's one of the most farcical things I've ever listened to in my life. 

It's conflicting; "we heard so much insurrectionist that it was definitely a coordinated attack" vs "we were caught off-guard and didn't have enough protection" vs "It all happened because Trump said 'stroll peacefully' to some 'seditious mobs'" lol...

It was a 3-hr long riot, and during its course Trump called for peace 3 times. It was the exact type of thing that the Dems cheered on for half of 2014, all of 2015, all of 2016, and half of 2020. There was even an attack on the WH, and the Dems were 100% fine with that. Should the GOP have called that an insurrection and threw 100 people in jail for 20 years each? 

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And Trump never said the words “let’s stroll peacefully” you shameless liar 

You're the shameless liar, scumbag, for trying to pretend that Trump tried to fire everybody up into an insurrectionist frenzy.

The next 3 quotes are his...

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"I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."

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we're going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

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So let's walk down Pennsylvania Avenue.

I want to thank you all. God bless you and God Bless America.

Thank you all for being here. This is incredible. Thank you very much. Thank you.

That's the exact ending, right there.

Sounds like a real call to war, hey genius? 

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The Russian invaders raped, murdered, abducted civilians, intentionally destroyed cultural artifacts, forcefully relocated Ukrainian civilians to Russia especially children. I never called it genocide but they’ve certainly committed major war crimes.  Unfortunately for the Russians their corrupt and incompetent military also sucks and they got their asses kicked once Ukraine launched a counteroffensive that liberated most of their country. However, Russia having a shitty military doesn’t cancel out their crimes against humanity.

It's a war of the Ukrainians' choosing. Nothing more, nothing less.

Zelenski even asked his civilians to fight, and anyone who attacks Russians without a uniform is a war criminal. Any soldier who accepts a ride to battle in an ambulance is a war criminal. Anyone who shoots at Russians from a "safe space" is a war criminal. What's more: Russians can fire back on those positions and it's not a war crime. 

And in case you didn'y already know this, I'm not taking your CNN commentary seriously. 

[BeaverFever]

17 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Blah blah ad hominem blah.

Just FYI your ad hominem attacks are meaningless because your credibility here is zero, collusion boy.

None of those guilty pleas had anything to do with colluding with Russians. 

You staked your whole reputation on cowusion and you were wrong. 

The time for doubling down has long since passed, it's just time to let it go little boy.

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That's just a perfect example of how stupid you are.

"Those 4 words" amounted to:

1. A material lie of the utmost consequence
2. by the FBI
3. to the FISA court
4. used to obtain a warrant to spy on the Dems' (FBI's) political opponent, the duly elected President of the United States

As if the first 4 points weren't enough, this was just one of a litany of lies and crimes by the FBI. It was also a lie (CRIME) by the FBI to apply for the first warrant without disclosing to the FISA court judge that the CIA had emailed the FBI to let them know that Carter Page was a CIA asset. 

The FBI's conduct was so egregious that the FBI would literally cease to be a recognized police force if they were held accountable for all of their crimes. 

"Collusion" was literally a farce from day 1.

Trump joked about asking Russia for the missing 33k emails and the Dems/MSM acted like it was a serious request for help from Russia. Then Hillary's Russian pals created a fake dossier for her, her lawyer brought the Alfa Bank lies and BS to the FBI while pretending to be doing it as a good samaritan when he was actually acting as a partisan election cheater, then the FBI/Dems/MSM told a string of lies that would make Goebbels blush. 

Only the dumbest of the dumb still believe. (That's you, Beavey boy)

Buddy, the whole "US gov't was almost overthrown on Jan 6th" story is complete BS. It's one of the most farcical things I've ever listened to in my life. 

It's conflicting; "we heard so much insurrectionist that it was definitely a coordinated attack" vs "we were caught off-guard and didn't have enough protection" vs "It all happened because Trump said 'stroll peacefully' to some 'seditious mobs'" lol...

It was a 3-hr long riot, and during its course Trump called for peace 3 times. It was the exact type of thing that the Dems cheered on for half of 2014, all of 2015, all of 2016, and half of 2020. There was even an attack on the WH, and the Dems were 100% fine with that. Should the GOP have called that an insurrection and threw 100 people in jail for 20 years each? 

You're the shameless liar, scumbag, for trying to pretend that Trump tried to fire everybody up into an insurrectionist frenzy.

The next 3 quotes are his...

That's the exact ending, right there.

Sounds like a real call to war, hey genius? 

It's a war of the Ukrainians' choosing. Nothing more, nothing less.

Zelenski even asked his civilians to fight, and anyone who attacks Russians without a uniform is a war criminal. Any soldier who accepts a ride to battle in an ambulance is a war criminal. Anyone who shoots at Russians from a "safe space" is a war criminal. What's more: Russians can fire back on those positions and it's not a war crime. 

And in case you didn'y already know this, I'm not taking your CNN commentary seriously. 

OMG what a collection of unhinged batshit nonsense, falsehoods distortion, false equivalence, misrepresentation and exaggeration. And HILLARY has Russian pals now?  LMAO you’re fukin crazy dude.
 

Luckily for you and unlike you I have a life and a job so I will address tour crazy shit later when I have time to waste. In the meantime know that you sound like a lunatic in a straightjacket ranting at the ceiling. 

[WestCanMan]

58 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

a collection of unhinged batshit nonsense, falsehoods distortion, false equivalence, misrepresentation and exaggeration.

As usual.

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And HILLARY has Russian pals now?  LMAO you’re fukin crazy dude.

Hillary is the one who's ultimately responsible for the Russian disinformation that was brought to the FBI, who then presented to the FISA court and Congress as being partially verified, or whatever you want to call this: https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/rep/releases/newly-declassified-document-indicates-fbi-misled-congress-on-reliability-of-steele-dossier/

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Luckily for you and unlike you I have a life and a job

Keep bleaching those anuses buddy. You're a valuable member of this community!