Trump's Poll Numbers Pose Challenge for Biden

[Deluge]

I see a return to the type of ass kicking Hillary took from the Donald.

 

Polls are showing that many voters remember former President Donald Trump's time in the White House as being positive, leaving President Joe Biden with the dual challenge of bringing his favorable numbers up while pushing back at Trump's polling results.

Even before the Iowa caucuses, the first contest in the 2024 race, is held, the race appears likely to pit Biden and Trump for a rematch of the 2020 election, but Democrats are concerned with polls showing Trump would handle vital issues better than Biden has been, The Wall Street Journal reported.

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/donald-trump-joe-biden-polls/2023/12/05/id/1144782/

[Nationalist]

One would think, after the dismal performance of the Biden administration and the semi-absent mentality of the POTUS and the VP, that the Democrats would be destroyed in the next election. But that's simply not so.

If Trump is going to be the Republican candidate, he's going to have to learn to fermer la bouche at times. Just smile and say nothing. Don't make up nick-names for people...don't make exaggerated commentaries...and DO NOT continue suggesting that he'll go after on the FBI and DOJ. Just do it after the election. Immediately after the election.

[Deluge]

13 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

One would think, after the dismal performance of the Biden administration and the semi-absent mentality of the POTUS and the VP, that the Democrats would be destroyed in the next election. But that's simply not so.

If Trump is going to be the Republican candidate, he's going to have to learn to fermer la bouche at times. Just smile and say nothing. Don't make up nick-names for people...don't make exaggerated commentaries...and DO NOT continue suggesting that he'll go after on the FBI and DOJ. Just do it after the election. Immediately after the election.

Agreed. He needs to keep that shit close to the vest but continue smiling while he snipes CNN and those interfering jackass election riggers. 

[CdnFox]

29 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

One would think, after the dismal performance of the Biden administration and the semi-absent mentality of the POTUS and the VP, that the Democrats would be destroyed in the next election. But that's simply not so.

If Trump is going to be the Republican candidate, he's going to have to learn to fermer la bouche at times. Just smile and say nothing. Don't make up nick-names for people...don't make exaggerated commentaries...and DO NOT continue suggesting that he'll go after on the FBI and DOJ. Just do it after the election. Immediately after the election.

LOL - well all this is true.  Trump is charasmatic in his way but he doesn't really know how to run a solid campaign. A campaign is not just getting the crowd in front of you to laugh or clap.  People aren't just deciding if the like you.

THe only reason he won in 2016 was clinton is even WORSE at campaigning - truly a horrible campaign.  So trump's campaign was more effective in comparison. But you noticed that whomever the media focused on went down in the polls - in other words each time one of them spoke and got the spotlight they sunk, and then the other would do it, then back to the first and it was this weird race to the bottom where you got the sensation that if either stopped talking they'd win by default  

Which is basically exactly what happened with biden in 2020 - he cried covid and hid in his basement for almost the whole campaign.  And trump talked himself out of a presidency.

This time trump has to learn to paint a picture, he's got to give people something solid to vote for more like he did with 'make America great again' and focus on his vision, not calling people 'sleepy joe' and such.

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It will be a sad day for democracy, and the Western World in general, if Trump were re-elected.

 

I'm praying that his cognitive abilities decline at a faster pace. 

Edited December 5, 2023 by DUI_Offender

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It will be a sad day for democracy, and the Western World in general, if Trump were re-elected.

 

 

The irony of that clearly escapes you    " Its a sad day for democracy if a leader is elected by the people".  Whooo kaaaayy........

Reminds me of that quote from one us politician back in the day who said "Democracy is far too important to leave to the people'  

Any time an election is freely and fairly fought and won it's a victory for democracy no matter who wins. The problem is the americans always decide the other side cheated, no matter which side wins the other side believes that.  Trump wins - russian collusion.  Biden wins - ballot box stuffing.  It goes back forever. They've done polls on this.

I have sympathy for the americans -  in a choice between biden and trump you have no really awesome options. Trump does far better on the economy and general governance but he's very divisive, prone to 3 am tweets that are not well thought out and have real impacts, entirely fuelled by spite, and all that causes problems.

Biden is just plain useless. A disaster on the long term economy, utterly incapable of having a cohesive plan for the country. a foreign relations mess, generally not the friend of good governance. But he tweets less.

IF we're being honest trump is probably the best shot.  he can't stay in for more than 4 years, the economy will probably do well under him, and maybe that will give the dems and the republicans a chance to pause and think about what they're putting forward as candidates.

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4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Any time an election is freely and fairly fought and won it's a victory for democracy no matter who wins. The problem is the americans always decide the other side cheated, no matter which side wins the other side believes that.  Trump wins - russian collusion.  Biden wins - ballot box stuffing.  It goes back forever. They've done polls on this.

 

There was absolutely no evidence of Ballot Box stuffing. In fact, Dominion Voting Machines, a Canadian company, was awarded the largest monetary legal settlement in American history, against FOX News, for their false claims against them.

Meanwhile, Trump refused to concede office, and tried to subvert democracy by staging an insurrection. This has never happened in modern US history. So we can once again look forward to an armed revolt if Trump loses the election.  Sadly, I think it may be successful the second time around.

[Deluge]

29 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

It will be a sad day for democracy, and the Western World in general, if Trump were re-elected.

I'm praying that his cognitive abilities decline at a faster pace. 

It will be a happy day for our Constitutional Republic and freedom loving Americans in general, and that's all that really matters. 

[Deluge]

34 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

There was absolutely no evidence of Ballot Box stuffing. In fact, Dominion Voting Machines, a Canadian company, was awarded the largest monetary legal settlement in American history, against FOX News, for their false claims against them.

Meanwhile, Trump refused to concede office, and tried to subvert democracy by staging an insurrection. This has never happened in modern US history. So we can once again look forward to an armed revolt if Trump loses the election.  Sadly, I think it may be successful the second time around.

Well, here's a list of scumbag liars who were caught cheating, so you may want to check it before you shoot off like a hooded delinquent. 

https://www.heritage.org/voterfraud-print/search

Trump thinks you f*ckers cheated and so do a lot of Americans. There's nothing wrong with questioning results and demanding recounts and further investigations - especially when an old, useless piece of shit like Joe Biden slithers into the Oval Office. 

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by Deluge

[OftenWrong]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

If Trump is going to be the Republican candidate, he's going to have to learn to fermer la bouche at times.

Maybe. One president said he would speak softly, and carry a big stick.

Or not... Perhaps it is time for someone to speak out against all the bullshit. In other words to SPEAK LOUDLY, AND CARRY AN EVEN BIGGER STICK!

[robosmith]

Biden leads Trump

• Updated: Dec. 05, 2023, 7:49 a.m.|
• Published: Dec. 05, 2023, 7:44 a.m.

Esp among LIKELY VOTERS.

[Deluge]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

Biden leads Trump

• Updated: Dec. 05, 2023, 7:49 a.m.|
• Published: Dec. 05, 2023, 7:44 a.m.

Esp among LIKELY VOTERS.

Harvard Poll. lol

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, DUI_Offender said:

There was absolutely no evidence of Ballot Box stuffing. In fact, Dominion Voting Machines, a Canadian company, was awarded the largest monetary legal settlement in American history, against FOX News, for their false claims against them.

 

Yeah yeah yeah bullshit bullshit bullshit.

In fact we know there was illegal voting - that DID happen. It happens every election. what you MEAN to say is there was not significant evidence of 'substantial' fraud which would have changed the outcome of the election. BUT - there is plenty of evidence that such could have happened without leaving significant evidence and unfortunately there were a few incidents which left room for doubt.

Which is why i harp on the need for the process to be seen to be abuse proof. Whether it's being abused or not

And if you're going to pretend differently i'll call you a liar to your face.  It IS possible that there was significant fraud.

Do i believe there was? nooooo - I think biden won the election.  But - there's more than enough room for doubt the way it was done to fuel the deniers.

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Meanwhile, Trump refused to concede office, and tried to subvert democracy by staging an insurrection.

Yeah, not really tho. I  know you guys love to call it an 'insurrection' but not really - a couple hundred unarmed protesters storming a building is not an 'insurrection', if anything they thought they were fighting back against an 'insurrection'. I'll give you that trump should have conceded but at the same time hillary spent every year after her loss right up till today demanding that trump was an illegitimate president. So...

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So we can once again look forward to an armed revolt if Trump loses the election.  Sadly, I think it may be successful the second time around.

Then you're a fool. 

First - the "first time" wasn't armed. In a nation with more firearms per capita than any other, they didn't bring any guns.

Second - there's no actual evidence that trump 'oganized' anything. At best he knowingly let it play out.

third - there was ZERO -  ZERO chance of that succeeding in overthrowing the gov't the slightest and that's precisely the chances of it succeeding if it happens again.

You people are every single bit as self deluding as the trump supporters in the states and then a bit.  And i noticed you didn't address the 4 years of "russian collusion" that turned out to be utterly false.  4 Years of "trump isn't legit" and now you belly ache when the other side pulls exactly the same crap with the same level of evidence.

 

[impartialobserver]

Another round of Biden vs. Trump..... about as appealing as a moldy pastrami sandwich served with a side of diarrhea. This is a sad moment for Americans. it is their fault as to why we have two subpar candidates. They want this.. so this is what they get. 

[CdnFox]

7 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Biden leads Trump

• Updated: Dec. 05, 2023, 7:49 a.m.|
• Published: Dec. 05, 2023, 7:44 a.m.

Esp among LIKELY VOTERS.

Did you need me to explain why that's desperate?   You can figure it out right?

As we can see at the aggregators sites:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/

Biden is either tied with or behind trump.

Further biden's disapproval rating is climbing.

You can lie do yourself all you like but it's pretty clear that at this moment in time turmp is a nose ahead of biden.

 

[robosmith]

38 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Harvard Poll. lol

https://www.270towin.com/2024-presidential-election-polls/

Here's the map from YOUR LINK showing Biden in the lead 241 to 235 LMAO:

[Deluge]

8 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Here's the map from YOUR LINK showing Biden in the lead 241 to 235 LMAO:

Toss-up states are the focal point, woketard. There will be no more cheating for you f*ckers.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Here's the map from YOUR LINK showing Biden in the lead 241 to 235 LMAO:

But it doesn't.  It show  that neither side is winning decisively, biden doesn't have enough to win and neither does trump - they're about neck and neck with 62 still in the air.

The best you can say out of that is that nobody is winning yet and either could win.

You're really not good at counting are you

[Deluge]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But it doesn't.  It show  that neither side is winning decisively, biden doesn't have enough to win and neither does trump - they're about neck and neck with 62 still in the air.

The best you can say out of that is that nobody is winning yet and either could win.

You're really not good at counting are you

Robochild has zero foresight. He can only live in the now. 

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - well all this is true.  Trump is charasmatic in his way but he doesn't really know how to run a solid campaign. A campaign is not just getting the crowd in front of you to laugh or clap.  People aren't just deciding if the like you.

THe only reason he won in 2016 was clinton is even WORSE at campaigning - truly a horrible campaign.  So trump's campaign was more effective in comparison. But you noticed that whomever the media focused on went down in the polls - in other words each time one of them spoke and got the spotlight they sunk, and then the other would do it, then back to the first and it was this weird race to the bottom where you got the sensation that if either stopped talking they'd win by default  

Which is basically exactly what happened with biden in 2020 - he cried covid and hid in his basement for almost the whole campaign.  And trump talked himself out of a presidency.

This time trump has to learn to paint a picture, he's got to give people something solid to vote for more like he did with 'make America great again' and focus on his vision, not calling people 'sleepy joe' and such.

Lets hope he reads this thread.

1 hour ago, OftenWrong said:

Maybe. One president said he would speak softly, and carry a big stick.

Or not... Perhaps it is time for someone to speak out against all the bullshit. In other words to SPEAK LOUDLY, AND CARRY AN EVEN BIGGER STICK!

Get elected first.

[robosmith]

49 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Toss-up states are the focal point, woketard. There will be no more cheating for you f*ckers.

Polls mean NOTHING now, pure DELUGINAL.

If they did, we'd have President Rudy Giuliani instead of Obama. Duh

[Deluge]

29 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Polls mean NOTHING now, pure DELUGINAL.

If they did, we'd have President Rudy Giuliani instead of Obama. Duh

Polls keep us up to speed, robobobo.

You just need to use something reliable, not a left-wing rag like a Harvard poll. 

 

Edited December 5, 2023 by Deluge

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1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But it doesn't.  It show  that neither side is winning decisively, biden doesn't have enough to win and neither does trump - they're about neck and neck with 62 still in the air.

The best you can say out of that is that nobody is winning yet and either could win.

When a Presidential race is close, the incumbent has the advantage, since the people who are undecided tend to vote for what they are familiar with.  So the advantage definitely goes to Biden.

[robosmith]

17 minutes ago, Deluge said:

Polls keep us up to speed, robobobo.

You just need to use something reliable, not a left-wing rag like a Harvard poll. 

 

Your posted evidence does not say that Harvard polls are unreliable.

It says that Biden is leading based on the consensus of MULTIPLE POLLS. Duh.

Thanks for that.

[Deluge]

20 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Your posted evidence does not say that Harvard polls are unreliable.

Point out where I said it did. 

Don't be a dumbass, just do it.