Go pick up a Bible said new House Speaker Mike Johnson

[blackbird]

This is refreshing to have someone who is a Bible believer chosen to be the Speaker in the U.S. House of Representatives.

We now have someone with some Biblical/Christian principles in a position of authority and who is not afraid to speak about these subjects.

 Speaker Mike Johnson Tells Hannity: ‘Go Pick Up a Bible' and 'Read It - That’s My Worldview' (msn.com)

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Newly elected Speaker Mike Johnson isn’t a tough man to figure out. Nor is he scary, except to those who don’t have the best interest of the United States at heart. Johnson lives by the teachings of the Bible, pure and simple.

He also wants the best for this nation. This makes him an enemy of the Democratic Party and the establishment media, who ultimately want the opposite and have been working hard to meet that goal.

Johnson’s sudden promotion is a sign of failure to the left. It signifies their inability to oust God from society and shows them to be the liars that they are. The threat he poses is matched by the vicious words the Democratic National Committee used to welcome Johnson onto the scene, calling him an anti-abortion, MAGA extremist at the start.    unquote

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[West]

Praise God.

[robosmith]

15 hours ago, blackbird said:

 Speaker Mike Johnson Tells Hannity: ‘Go Pick Up a Bible' and 'Read It - That’s My Worldview' (msn.com)

Sure. Cause there's nothing like a man having complete faith in a book of ancient myths to demonstrate he is a cretin who believes we've learned nothing in the 2000 years since it was written.

One thing MANY have learned is that myths have power that is unjustified by FACTS and that the FACTS of our existence has CHANGED PROFOUNDLY in 2000 years.

Back then survival was dependent on the size of one's tribe, among other profound differences.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Cause there's nothing like a man having complete faith in a book of ancient myths to demonstrate he is a cretin who believes we've learned nothing in the 2000 years since it was written.

It's not a myth.  The Bible gives lots of evidence it came from God.  Those who don't believe it are condemning themselves for eternity unless they repent.  The knowledge in it is for all time.  The commandments for example are still valid:  thou shalt not kill, not shalt not covet thy neighbours possessions, thou shalt not commit adultery,  love thy neighbour as thyself, etc. etc.

The Biblical teaching that man is a fallen, corrupt being and needs to be redeemed it quite obvious.  Man has been brutal to each other with crime, theft, murders, wars, etc.  Nobody in their right mind could deny these things.  

There is an almighty Creator who created everything.  That should be obvious by just looking around at the complex creation.  Even biological scientists have discovered the complexity of a single cell is demonstrated by the vast chains of data in it to control its function.

The very existence of the universe proves the existence of God because the universe is an effect.  Every effect has a cause.  Simple logic of cause and effect.  The universe had to have a Creator-designer.  Nothing does not create something.  There had to have been a beginning in time when the universe came into being and it could not have just happened out of the blue.  One only needs to consider such things as the atoms, molecules, energy and laws of physics.  All of that could not just happen.  It was created with incredibly intricate laws that govern how it all works.  This could only have been done by an immensely powerful Designer we call God.

So it is reasonable to believe that God did inspire men to write the Holy Scriptures, that is, the Bible.  The Bible reveals God's plan and will for man.  Only fools reject that and are so puffed up with pride and full of themselves that they think they know better than God.  Sad, but true.

It takes a little humility and acknowledgement that we are mere mortals that will be alive for a very brief moment in time and we are as specks of dust in the universe.  The Bible makes it clear we will be held accountable to God for our beliefs in this life.  We are not just blobs of chemicals that came into existence accidentally.  There is a purpose for everything even if we don't understand it all.

 

Edited October 28, 2023 by blackbird

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

It's not a myth.  The Bible gives lots of evidence it came from God.  Those who don't believe it are condemning themselves for eternity unless they repent.  The knowledge in it is for all time.  The commandments for example are still valid:  thou shalt not kill, not shalt not covet thy neighbours possessions, thou shalt not commit adultery,  love thy neighbour as thyself, etc. etc.

The Biblical teaching that man is a fallen, corrupt being and needs to be redeemed it quite obvious.  Man has been brutal to each other with crime, theft, murders, wars, etc.  Nobody in their right mind could deny these things.  

There is an almighty Creator who created everything.  That should be obvious by just looking around at the complex creation.  Even biological scientists have discovered the complexity of a single cell is demonstrated by the vast chains of data in it to control its function.

The very existence of the universe proves the existence of God because the universe is an effect.  Every effect has a cause.  Simple logic of cause and effect.  The universe had to have a Creator-designer.  Nothing does not create something.  There had to have been a beginning in time when the universe came into being and it could not have just happened out of the blue.  One only needs to consider such things as the atoms, molecules, energy and laws of physics.  All of that could not just happen.  It was created with incredibly intricate laws that govern how it all works.  This could only have been done by an immensely powerful Designer we call God.

So it is reasonable to believe that God did inspire men to write the Holy Scriptures, that is, the Bible.  The Bible reveals God's plan and will for man.  Only fools reject that and are so puffed up with pride and full of themselves that they think they know better than God.  Sad, but true.

It takes a little humility and acknowledgement that we are mere mortals that will be alive for a very brief moment in time and we are as specks of dust in the universe.  The Bible makes it clear we will be held accountable to God for our beliefs in this life.  We are not just blobs of chemicals that came into existence accidentally.  There is a purpose for everything even if we don't understand it all.

 

Yes, every effect has a cause, but you assigning one without SPECIFIC EVIDENCE DOES NOT FOLLOW from that.

That for which you have NO UNDERSTANDING is UNKNOWN. AKA, a MYTH.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Yes, every effect has a cause, but you assigning one without SPECIFIC EVIDENCE DOES NOT FOLLOW from that.

That for which you have NO UNDERSTANDING is UNKNOWN. AKA, a MYTH.

Not really.  It is simple logic.   Logic points to a intelligent Creator because nothing can NOT create something and the universe is immensely complex.   Give any logic for any other explanation if you have it.  There is none.  This is simply logical deduction.  

Edited October 29, 2023 by blackbird

[Guest]

Does the new Speaker of the House think that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark?

Does anyone on here?

Don't be shy now...

[blackbird]

22 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

Does the new Speaker of the House think that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark?

Does anyone on here?

Don't be shy no..

I don't know.  If you want to know about dinosaurs there are many articles on creation.com

Were dinosaurs on Noah's Ark (creation.com)

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, blackbird said:

Not really.  It is simple logic.   Logic points to a intelligent Creator because nothing can create something and the universe is immensely complex.   Give any logic for any other explanation if you have it.  There is none.  This is simply logical deduction.  

IF ^this was "simple logic," then the "intelligent creator" could not exist without a "cause."

More "simple logic:" the universe ALWAYS existed and changed in complex random ways.

In an infinite universe, the probability that EVERYTHING will happen approaches 100%.

[Guest]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I don't know.  If you want to know about dinosaurs there are many articles on creation.com

Were dinosaurs on Noah's Ark (creation.com)

So you think it's possible?

I should make clear here that Noah's Ark didn't exist, and the question that is actually being asked, using the myth of Noah's Ark as a vehicle, is:

Were dinosaurs and people ever alive at the same time?

What do you think?

[blackbird]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

IF ^this was "simple logic," then the "intelligent creator" could not exist without a "cause."

No, that does not fit with the historic, biblical definition of God.

God is omnipotent (all powerful), eternal, that is, God has always existed and always will.

God is not a part of the material universe.  God is a spirit that is present everywhere.  The universe which He created is not a part of God.  It is a material or physical entity.  It is governed by all the laws of physics and science which he created.  Such a complex universe cannot be explained apart from God.

For you to simply say it always existed is really nonsensical because everything had to have a beginning.  We are talking about two things, the supernatural God which is apart from the material universe and the material universe which is governed by intricate laws instituted by God.

This is where your argument falls down.  Your claim that the universe always existed does not explain why.  Why would there be such a thing if there is no purpose for life?  The answer is in the Bible.  God!

The atheist idea falls flat because it explains nothing.  It fails to tell why we are here.  An atheist must assume mankind are just chemicals with no meaning and no purpose.  Therefore there would be morals, no right or wrong.  Everyone just lives and dies and that's the end of it.  This would mean life is just hopeless accident.

It defies logic to claim there was no Creator and claim the universe always existed.  Every material thing changes over time.  The universe changes.  The complexity of the atomic world means energy, and sub atomic particles could not have created themselves.  

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, robosmith said:

Sure. Cause there's nothing like a man having complete faith in a book of ancient myths to demonstrate he is a cretin who believes we've learned nothing in the 2000 years since it was written.

One thing MANY have learned is that myths have power that is unjustified by FACTS and that the FACTS of our existence has CHANGED PROFOUNDLY in 2000 years.

Back then survival was dependent on the size of one's tribe, among other profound differences.

You're vile.

It's one thing to not be religious yourself, but to make an attack like that on a person just because of their religion is gross.

Maybe you should go to a mosque and tell them all how stupid they are. 

[blackbird]

4 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

So you think it's possible?

I should make clear here that Noah's Ark didn't exist, and the question that is actually being asked, using the myth of Noah's Ark as a vehicle, is:

Were dinosaurs and people ever alive at the same time?

What do you think?

I don't know.  I don't need to speculate on something I don't know.  If you want to know, (which I don't think you do) you can read the articles.  But I think you are just trying to bait me.

[Guest]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

I don't know.  I don't need to speculate on something I don't know.  If you want to know, (which I don't think you do) you can read the articles.  But I think you are just trying to bait me.

I already know. 

I'm not trying to bait you, but I am genuinely curious as to how anyone with an actual brain can think dinosaurs lived at the same time as people.

I'm also curious as to what people think of the possibility that the person who is third in line for the position of POTUS might believe dinosaurs and people were alive at the same time.

[robosmith]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You're vile.

You're an lDIOT.

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's one thing to not be religious yourself, but to make an attack like that on a person just because of their religion is gross.

He's not making a religious argument, he's proclaiming FACTS based on "simple logic."

And now he's adding  Biblical references cause his "simple logic" is INSUFFICIENT to establish his claim.

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Maybe you should go to a mosque and tell them all how stupid they are. 

Like you come here to tell me how stupid I am when it is you who is wrong all the time.

I'll certainly not be taking any advice from YOU.

[Guest]

43 minutes ago, blackbird said:

I don't know.  I don't need to speculate on something I don't know.  If you want to know, (which I don't think you do) you can read the articles.  But I think you are just trying to bait me.

This from your link:

3. How did those huge dinosaurs fit on the Ark?

Although there are about 668 names of dinosaurs, there are perhaps only 55 different ‘kinds’ of dinosaurs. Furthermore, not all dinosaurs were huge like the Brachiosaurus, and even those dinosaurs on the Ark were probably ‘teenagers’ or young adults. Indeed, dinosaurs were recently discovered to go through a growth spurt, so God could have brought dinosaurs of the right age to start this spurt as soon as they disembarked...

Teenage Brachiosauruses.  That's how it was done. 

Tell me you don't actually agree with these people?

[blackbird]

35 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

I already know. 

I'm not trying to bait you, but I am genuinely curious as to how anyone with an actual brain can think dinosaurs lived at the same time as people.

I'm also curious as to what people think of the possibility that the person who is third in line for the position of POTUS might believe dinosaurs and people were alive at the same time.

Of course they lived at the same time as people.  There is evidence to support that.

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This pamphlet presents just a tiny selection of the amazing evidence that dinosaurs did not die out millions of years before humans, but, in fact, they lived at the same time. Examples are found all over the world. All sorts of dinosaurs are depicted in all sorts of mediums: carvings, etchings, drawings, tapestries, stone masonry, pottery, etc. The similarity with reconstructions of fossil dinosaurs is astounding. As you travel and read you will discover more examples. The Bible makes sense of dinosaurs, and makes sense of our life—why we are here and where we are going.    unquote

dinosaurs-did-they-die-out.pdf (creation.com)

This appears to be a very interesting article which I have yet to read myself.

[blackbird]

8 minutes ago, bcsapper said:

.Teenage Brachiosauruses.  That's how it was done. 

Tell me you don't actually agree with these people?

To be honest, that is just one subject out of countless subjects in the Bible and I have not studied the subject of dinosaurs.  But I do read the odd article related to creation.

So, I am not claiming what an article says is absolute truth.  I might agree with parts of an article or I might agree with the whole thing, but an article is not the Bible.  The Bible is infallible, but we must always remember, our interpretation of what the Bible says might not always be correct.  That's why there are many different interpretations on some things.  The Bible is not a scientific book but some things such as the flood are meant to be taken literally.  I have no problem believing dinosaurs walked on earth when men were here.  That's not a big deal.

Edited October 29, 2023 by blackbird

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Of course they lived at the same time as people.  There is evidence to support that.

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This pamphlet presents just a tiny selection of the amazing evidence that dinosaurs did not die out millions of years before humans, but, in fact, they lived at the same time. Examples are found all over the world. All sorts of dinosaurs are depicted in all sorts of mediums: carvings, etchings, drawings, tapestries, stone masonry, pottery, etc. The similarity with reconstructions of fossil dinosaurs is astounding. As you travel and read you will discover more examples. The Bible makes sense of dinosaurs, and makes sense of our life—why we are here and where we are going.    unquote

dinosaurs-did-they-die-out.pdf (creation.com)

This appears to be a very interesting article which I have yet to read myself.

The only "dinosaurs" that ever lived concurrently with humans, are their descendents called birds.

The big lizards died off 64M years ago when that asteroid hit the Yucatan Peninsula. AKA long before modern humans evolved.

The only mammals that survived that asteroid were very small and lived underground.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

IF ^this was "simple logic," then the "intelligent creator" could not exist without a "cause."

More "simple logic:" the universe ALWAYS existed and changed in complex random ways.

In an infinite universe, the probability that EVERYTHING will happen approaches 100%.

The fact that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead and was seen by many eye witnesses lends enormous credibility to the truth of the Bible and the account of creation.  Read the New Testament and check on the eye witnesses who saw Jesus Christ after his resurrection.

[robosmith]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

The fact that Jesus Christ was raised from the dead and was seen by many eye witnesses lends enormous credibility to the truth of the Bible and the account of creation.  Read the New Testament and check on the eye witnesses who saw Jesus Christ after his resurrection.

Either he was never dead (taken down before dying) or those people were hallucinating due to delirium or drugs.

[blackbird]

 

1 hour ago, bcsapper said:

Does the new Speaker of the House think that dinosaurs were on Noah's Ark?

Believing what the Bible says is actually far closer to our historic Judeo-Christian culture than the recent woke/progressivism phenomena with same-sex marriage, abortion on demand, medical assistance in dying, sexual orientation, and gender identity ideology.  All those things are an abomination in the true Judeo-Christian culture.  We need to put the brakes on this woke stuff.  If the new Speaker, Mike Johnson, believes the Bible and rejects the woke agenda, that is something to celebrate.  He said God ordained him to be Speaker of the House.  I think he is correct.

Edited October 29, 2023 by blackbird

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Of course they lived at the same time as people.  There is evidence to support that.

quote

This pamphlet presents just a tiny selection of the amazing evidence that dinosaurs did not die out millions of years before humans, but, in fact, they lived at the same time. Examples are found all over the world. All sorts of dinosaurs are depicted in all sorts of mediums: carvings, etchings, drawings, tapestries, stone masonry, pottery, etc. The similarity with reconstructions of fossil dinosaurs is astounding. As you travel and read you will discover more examples. The Bible makes sense of dinosaurs, and makes sense of our life—why we are here and where we are going.    unquote

dinosaurs-did-they-die-out.pdf (creation.com)

This appears to be a very interesting article which I have yet to read myself.

This is hilarious!

Stone carvings decorating the temples of Angkor, Cambodia, portray facets of everyday life, including images of animals and people. They are 800 years old...

In 1496 Bishop Bell was buried in the floor of Carlisle Cathedral in the north of England. Engravings in a brass inlay decorated his tomb with depictions of many well-known animals such as a bat,dogs, fish and a bird (see images below). Also engraved on the brass are two unusual animals, with long necks that are interlocked, and long tails. Many have noticed that they resemble sauropod dinosaurs.

Not only were dinosaurs coexisting with humans, but they were doing so as recently as the fifteenth century!

 

 

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, blackbird said:

To be honest, that is just one subject out of countless subjects in the Bible and I have not studied the subject of dinosaurs.  But I do read the odd article related to creation.

So, I am not claiming what an article says is absolute truth.  I might agree with parts of an article or I might agree with the whole thing, but an article is not the Bible.  The Bible is infallible, but we must always remember, our interpretation of what the Bible says might not always be correct.  That's why there are many different interpretations on some things.  The Bible is not a scientific book but some things such as the flood are meant to be taken literally.  I have no problem believing dinosaurs walked on earth when men were here.  That's not a big deal.

Does the bible mention them?  I was raised a Roman Catholic, and was severely chastised as a child for insisting on their (prehistoric) existence.  It seems that the way around the Adam and Eve thing for my teachers was to say that dinosaurs didn't exist.

Now it seems they did exist (I guess all those bones were a dead giveaway), and in order to get around the Adam and Eve thing, we have to believe the Bishop of Carlisle had a few in his yard!

[Guest]

17 minutes ago, blackbird said:

 

Believing what the Bible says is actually far closer to our historic Judeo-Christian culture than the recent woke/progressivism phenomena with same-sex marriage, abortion on demand, medical assistance in dying, sexual orientation, and gender identity ideology.  All those things are an abomination in the true Judeo-Christian culture.  We need to put the brakes on this woke stuff.  If the new Speaker, Mike Johnson, believes the Bible and rejects the woke agenda, that is something to celebrate.  He said God ordained him to be Speaker of the House.  I think he is correct.

That would be called progress.  We no longer burn witches, and all that.

I think he is wrong.  There is no God, and even if there was, it wouldn't put a mindless prat like Mike Johnson in charge of a sheep dip.

And if you think it did, why did it take three tries?