Mako Posted October 24, 2023 Report Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) The plutocrats hate the people even more than the plutocrats hate themselves. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/psychology-yesterday/202310/the-psychology-of-wealth https://www.politico.com/news/2023/01/24/new-doj-lawsuit-could-break-up-google-00079229 https://nypost.com/2019/08/15/haunting-photos-show-jeffrey-epsteins-pedophile-island-in-the-caribbean/#1 Mutilating children to make them happy: https://thefederalist.com/2018/02/20/rich-white-men-institutionalizing-transgender-ideology/ https://www.npr.org/2022/03/10/1085174528/sackler-opioid-victims https://www.politico.com/news/2021/01/01/yellen-made-millions-in-wall-street-speeches-453223 https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/the-great-american-bubble-machine-195229/ Subverting democracy: https://www.forbes.com/sites/michelatindera/2021/02/17/here-are-the-billionaires-who-donated-to-joe-bidens-2020-presidential-campaign/?sh=2a855ca921c4 Bigotry: https://www.ncregister.com/blog/a-litany-of-harvey-weinstein-s-catholic-bashing-films Support for genocidal dictators: https://pen.org/report/made-in-hollywood-censored-by-beijing/ https://www.liveaction.org/news/billionaires-behind-abortion-wealthy-population-control/ Edited October 24, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Mako Posted October 24, 2023 Author Report Posted October 24, 2023 (edited) More corruption: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2023/10/17/bankman-fried-trial/ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54349868 https://www.discoursemagazine.com/p/the-china-challenge-the-stain-of-forced-labor-on-nike-shoes https://theintercept.com/2019/07/11/china-surveillance-google-ibm-semptian/ Edited October 24, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
robosmith Posted October 25, 2023 Report Posted October 25, 2023 If you're trying to make a case for something, naked links DO NOT WORK. Esp not a gish gallop. If you want anyone to read your cites, you have to show them WHY they would want to. 2 Quote
Mako Posted October 25, 2023 Author Report Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, robosmith said: If you're trying to make a case for something, naked links DO NOT WORK. Esp not a gish gallop. If you want anyone to read your cites, you have to show them WHY they would want to. I am only pointing out that our elites are often depraved and power-hungry. Anyone with a healthy curiosity would be tempted to follow the links. If you feel my links represent half-truths or fake news please be specific. Which can you refute? Edited October 25, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Rebound Posted October 25, 2023 Report Posted October 25, 2023 1 hour ago, Mako said: I am only pointing out that our elites are often depraved and power-hungry. Anyone with a healthy curiosity would be tempted to follow the links. If you feel my links represent half-truths or fake news please be specific. Which can you refute? Of course some people get wealthy by being corrupt and or being hungry for power. Is that true of all of them? What should we do about it? Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Mako Posted October 25, 2023 Author Report Posted October 25, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rebound said: Of course some people get wealthy by being corrupt and or being hungry for power. Is that true of all of them? What should we do about it? Our reigning elites are especially powerful (thanks to advancing technology) and especially gross. There’s always tension between ruler and ruled, but our current rulers truly hate the people with a passion. We should support populists who want to take back the Democratic Party from the reigning party establishment. Edited October 25, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
robosmith Posted October 25, 2023 Report Posted October 25, 2023 8 hours ago, Mako said: I am only pointing out that our elites are often depraved and power-hungry. Anyone with a healthy curiosity would be tempted to follow the links. If you feel my links represent half-truths or fake news please be specific. Which can you refute? I don't know if they do or don't because you've given me NO REASON to read them. Quote
Mako Posted October 26, 2023 Author Report Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) Our elites’ current favored projects: *Stupid endless war in Ukraine that doesn’t serve U.S. interests *Another stupid endless war in Gaza that doesn’t serve U.S. interests *For a change of pace, mutilating children’s genitals (necessary to improve their mental health) *Subservience to genocidal dictators in Beijing *Clinging to power no matter what *WW III https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/10/25/elon_musk_the_risk_of_world_war_three_is_increasing_rapidly.html Edited October 26, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Mako Posted October 26, 2023 Author Report Posted October 26, 2023 Plutocrats want complete control: https://nypost.com/2023/04/07/inside-the-woke-scoring-system-guiding-american-companies/ Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Michael Hardner Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 6:59 AM, Rebound said: Of course some people get wealthy by being corrupt and or being hungry for power. Is that true of all of them? What should we do about it? More importantly if the system is set up to facilitate and legitimize bribery, can you really call it corruption? I see these general outcries all the time but part of the problem is that these people who are so upset were not around 10 20 30 40 years ago. What were they doing? I think what was happening was that life was good and people didn't see a need to pay attention. The system evolved while they were sleep walking and enjoying the good life. They were also paying attention to stupid non problems such as the war on Christmas and identity politics. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Nationalist Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 5:45 AM, Mako said: I am only pointing out that our elites are often depraved and power-hungry. Anyone with a healthy curiosity would be tempted to follow the links. If you feel my links represent half-truths or fake news please be specific. Which can you refute? Don't mind robo...if there's not huge print and pretty pictures...he's not interested. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Mako Posted October 26, 2023 Author Report Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: More importantly if the system is set up to facilitate and legitimize bribery, can you really call it corruption? I see these general outcries all the time but part of the problem is that these people who are so upset were not around 10 20 30 40 years ago. What were they doing? I think what was happening was that life was good and people didn't see a need to pay attention. The system evolved while they were sleep walking and enjoying the good life. They were also paying attention to stupid non problems such as the war on Christmas and identity politics. I think you are right. For example the corporate media is always trying to divide the American people. The rich want the people fighting so the rich and their great piles of cash will be left alone. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2013/07/21/how_media_lies_have_distorted_a_tragedy_119311.html https://zogbyanalytics.com/news/875-the-zogby-poll-voters-feel-the-mainstream-media-is-also-to-blame-for-the-spread-of-hate-and-misunderstanding-voters-say-the-mainstream-media-divides-people-along-racial-gender-and-political-lines-a-majority-of-democrats-agree Edited October 26, 2023 by Mako Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Mako Posted October 26, 2023 Author Report Posted October 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Don't mind robo...if there's not huge print and pretty pictures...he's not interested. Looks like his mind is nailed shut against new ideas. Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Michael Hardner Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, Mako said: 1. I think you are right. For example the corporate media is always trying to divide the American people. 2. The rich want the people fighting so the rich and their great piles of cash will be left alone. 1. Not always, no. The tone of media has changed markedly since the arrival of CNN in 1980. 2. They do, but not too much. They know that their wealth it would be at risk if the status quo degrades too much. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Deluge Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 On 10/25/2023 at 4:59 AM, Rebound said: Of course some people get wealthy by being corrupt and or being hungry for power. Is that true of all of them? What should we do about it? Go after Donald Trump. That's a neat democrat trick. Quote
Mako Posted October 26, 2023 Author Report Posted October 26, 2023 57 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. Not always, no. The tone of media has changed markedly since the arrival of CNN in 1980. 2. They do, but not too much. They know that their wealth it would be at risk if the status quo degrades too much. Only changed for the worse. https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-disinformation-examples-smollett-collusion-covington-rogan-media Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
Michael Hardner Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 2 hours ago, Mako said: Only changed for the worse. https://www.foxnews.com/media/cnn-disinformation-examples-smollett-collusion-covington-rogan-media McLuhan taught that trying to moralize detracts from media analysis. But he was also ambivalent about how much control people might have over technology. 1 Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
robosmith Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 6 hours ago, Nationalist said: Don't mind robo...if there's not huge print and pretty pictures...he's not interested. Don't mind gnat man.... he ONLY has LIES and MISINFORMATION to post because he's intellectually bankrupt. 5 hours ago, Mako said: Looks like his mind is nailed shut against new ideas. Looks like you've FAILED to sell ANY "new ideas" with your naked links. Quote
robosmith Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 4 hours ago, Deluge said: Go after Donald Trump. That's a neat democrat trick. Indictments by Grand Juries for CRIMES is NOT a trick nor done by "democrat." Duh Quote
Deluge Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 7 minutes ago, robosmith said: Indictments by Grand Juries for CRIMES is NOT a trick nor done by "democrat." Duh Witch Hunts ARE a democrat trick, and they will continue until Donald Trump is knocked out of consideration. Quote
Rebound Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 19 hours ago, Mako said: Our elites’ current favored projects: *Stupid endless war in Ukraine that doesn’t serve U.S. interests *Another stupid endless war in Gaza that doesn’t serve U.S. interests *For a change of pace, mutilating children’s genitals (necessary to improve their mental health) *Subservience to genocidal dictators in Beijing *Clinging to power no matter what *WW III https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2023/10/25/elon_musk_the_risk_of_world_war_three_is_increasing_rapidly.html I’ve met a lot of very nice Palestinian people. Unfortunately, they are lead by a terrorist group called Hamas. Terrorism is a threat to the entire world, including the U.S. You are very badly educated on this point. The Palestinian people have absolutely nothing in common with your values. Brothers commonly murder their sisters if the sister is raped, because it shames the entire family. Let me repeat that: If a Palestinian girl is raped, her brothers murder her. Have you ever hear of “LGBT for Palestine”? The Palestinians would kill anyone who’s LGBT. They make MAGA look liberal. They aren’t just trying to kick all the Jews out of Israel, they have tried to overthrow the governments of Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. Remember the “Arab Spring”? It wasn’t that long ago. These people are not your buddies. Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Michael Hardner Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, Rebound said: 1. Unfortunately, they are lead by a terrorist group called Hamas. 2. If a Palestinian girl is raped, her brothers murder her. Have you ever hear of “LGBT for Palestine”? The Palestinians would kill anyone who’s LGBT. 3. Remember the “Arab Spring”? It wasn’t that long ago. These people are not your buddies. 1. No, just Gaza. 2. Cite please. 3. Palestinians tried to overthrow the governments of the region? No. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Rebound Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: 1. No, just Gaza. 2. Cite please. 3. Palestinians tried to overthrow the governments of the region? No. https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/19/deadly-toll-palestinian-women https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinai_insurgency And here’s a first grade level question for you: If the Palestinians are so loving and peaceful and non-threatening, why are their borders with Egypt and Jordan MORE tightly controlled than their borders with Israel? There’s an obvious reason, right? Edited October 26, 2023 by Rebound Quote @reason10: “Hitler had very little to do with the Holocaust.”
Michael Hardner Posted October 26, 2023 Report Posted October 26, 2023 26 minutes ago, Rebound said: https://www.hrw.org/news/2019/09/19/deadly-toll-palestinian-women https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinai_insurgency And here’s a first grade level question for you: If the Palestinians are so loving and peaceful and non-threatening, why are their borders with Egypt and Jordan MORE tightly controlled than their borders with Israel? There’s an obvious reason, right? You didn't support your claims with those links. I didn't say anything about the Palestinians being so loving... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Mako Posted October 27, 2023 Author Report Posted October 27, 2023 6 hours ago, Rebound said: I’ve met a lot of very nice Palestinian people. Unfortunately, they are lead by a terrorist group called Hamas. Terrorism is a threat to the entire world, including the U.S. You are very badly educated on this point. The Palestinian people have absolutely nothing in common with your values. Brothers commonly murder their sisters if the sister is raped, because it shames the entire family. Let me repeat that: If a Palestinian girl is raped, her brothers murder her. Have you ever hear of “LGBT for Palestine”? The Palestinians would kill anyone who’s LGBT. They make MAGA look liberal. They aren’t just trying to kick all the Jews out of Israel, they have tried to overthrow the governments of Jordan, Lebanon and Egypt. Remember the “Arab Spring”? It wasn’t that long ago. These people are not your buddies. You’ll be surprised to learn that Palestinians are human. They sometimes even care about their children. You are trying to demonize a group you hate in order to justify mass murder. All groups, including your own, sometimes commit murder: https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/woman-killed-in-suspected-domestic-violence-incident-in-southern-israel-654196 Quote Pro-genocide CdnFox wrote: “The path to peace is hamas and gaza accept the jewish state's right to exist 100 percent and lay down their arms. OR they all die.”
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