Battle over Water Rights

[reason10]

On 10/30/2023 at 12:05 AM, Caswell Thomas said:

Besides another commentators comment on how..unrealistic..using diesel fired desalinization plants would be, there's another much bigger problem if you cut water to California: A third of the country's vegetables and two thirds of the nations fruit and nuts are grown here. ( A few nuts are also born here but we try to ship them off to Florida or Texas as soon as we can) ?

Florida supplies most of the country's winter vegetables. And our voters are college professors, compared to the dumbasses in CaliFAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGULA.

 

[impartialobserver]

On 12/16/2023 at 9:35 PM, reason10 said:

California has no business whatsoever getting even ONE DROP of Colorado River water. With the few billionaires left (the ones too stupid with Wokeness to leave that communist shithole) can  pay another 10 percent of their earnings in taxes and desal plants could be built all along the Pacific Coast. A modest investment in this idea could flood the state with drinking water.

You should take this up with the court system. The Colorado River allocations were negotiated in good faith before you were born. 

On 12/23/2023 at 10:34 AM, reason10 said:

Desal IS an expensive way to get drinking water. The problem with CaliFAGula is the fact that the state's population is growing faster than the household of a welfare queen, and those residents assume water will appear every time they turn on a tap. Apparently that third world shithole hasn't bothered to compute the ratio of water needs of an expanding population (especially the wetbacks who stream across its non existent borders), and so a lot of liberals there wring their hands and are stupid enough to act surprised when presented with the problem of a finite supply of drinking water. Liberals were never very sharp with math.

The California of Governor Reagan was the best economy in the country and there was plenty for everybody. Problem is, a series of liberal governors not only put that fagg state in the red, budget wise, it didn't bother to take the time to run the numbers on the needs of an exploding population.

Personally, I think it's funny as hell. And those who live there who voted for those idi0ts DESERVE all the high taxes and misery that they live in now.

There is a good reason that desalinization plants have not popped up all over the west coast. Your bias gets in the way of you comprehending this. 

[impartialobserver]

 Total value of agricultural products grown in CA and sold: $49.097,413,000

Florida ranks 23rd in value of agricultural output at $8,674,990,000.

If you break it down by crop.. FL only outdoes CA in very few crops.. Oranges and certain niche tropical fruits. 

[reason10]

You should take this up with the court system. The Colorado River allocations were negotiated in good faith before you were born. 

So was Dred Scott V. Sanford. And it took a Civil War to overturn that Supreme Court ruling.

There is a good reason that desalinization plants have not popped up all over the west coast. Your bias gets in the way of you comprehending this. 

Oh, I know the good reason. CaliFAGGGula is a giant mooching welfare state, wanting to take another state's cheap water rather than create a source of its own.

 

[herbie]

From reading this thread, I'd say Florida supplies most of the USA with it's vegetables. And their wheelchairs....

[Aristides]

On 12/17/2023 at 7:53 PM, Legato said:

Yes California has many nuts and fruitcakes.

Drive down I5 and I99 from Stockton to LA and the land between. Thousands of acres of dead farmland because drought has forced government to pick and choose which areas and crops get water. Arizona is facing the same thing as more and more people move into the state and urban areas are demanding the water farmers need. Never mind drought conditions that are compounding the problem.

Rising sea levels are increasing salinity levels in soil and threatening Florida farmland.

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/opinion/2022/03/01/florida-farmers-vulnerable-salt-need-prepare-rising-seas/6974940001/

If you think food is expensive now, just wait.

Edited January 2, 2024 by Aristides

[Aristides]

On 12/23/2023 at 10:34 AM, reason10 said:

Desal IS an expensive way to get drinking water. The problem with CaliFAGula is the fact that the state's population is growing faster than the household of a welfare queen, and those residents assume water will appear every time they turn on a tap. Apparently that third world shithole hasn't bothered to compute the ratio of water needs of an expanding population (especially the wetbacks who stream across its non existent borders), and so a lot of liberals there wring their hands and are stupid enough to act surprised when presented with the problem of a finite supply of drinking water. Liberals were never very sharp with math.

So is California losing population or gaining it? Is it a shithole because people are moving in or leaving?  You guys can't seem to make up your minds, it's one or the other depending on what narrative you are trying to peddle.

[impartialobserver]

44 minutes ago, Aristides said:

So is California losing population or gaining it? Is it a shithole because people are moving in or leaving?  You guys can't seem to make up your minds, it's one or the other depending on what narrative you are trying to peddle.

 

On 12/30/2023 at 6:35 AM, reason10 said:

You should take this up with the court system. The Colorado River allocations were negotiated in good faith before you were born. 

So was Dred Scott V. Sanford. And it took a Civil War to overturn that Supreme Court ruling.

There is a good reason that desalinization plants have not popped up all over the west coast. Your bias gets in the way of you comprehending this. 

Oh, I know the good reason. CaliFAGGGula is a giant mooching welfare state, wanting to take another state's cheap water rather than create a source of its own.

 

Facts and data do not back up your claim. The colorado river water allocation was decided legally.. Guess what? the other states agreed to this. So there was no theft or unwillingness. Wyoming, Utah, Arizona, and Nevada (all of which had considerably less population in 1920 than today)... all signed off on it. 

 

[Caswell Thomas]

On 12/19/2023 at 9:00 AM, Legato said:

I tried to get that word salad translated but unfortunately could not find any language that offered some sort of a close resemblance.

I think you mean Saud. This Kindle keeps substituting it when I post here for the word "said" for some reason?!

[Aristides]

Not just the US. 

 

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/alberta-drought-rebecca-schulz-stefan-kienzle-irrigation-1.7074092

 

Expect food to get much more expensive.

[impartialobserver]

The next installment in this saga is coming soon. Arizona is going to fight this one tooth and nail. It appears that the agreed upon allocations are a bit too generous. They do grow a lot of food in Yuma, AZ but they need to put in place a ban on ornamental front lawns like they did in Las Vegas. 

[Aristides]

6 hours ago, impartialobserver said:

The next installment in this saga is coming soon. Arizona is going to fight this one tooth and nail. It appears that the agreed upon allocations are a bit too generous. They do grow a lot of food in Yuma, AZ but they need to put in place a ban on ornamental front lawns like they did in Las Vegas. 

Arizona city dwellers and farmers are fighting over water. Never mind California. 

On the other hand, in a few decades, Florida will be under water.