Can any right winger here explain the meaning of "excess deaths" and how it is calculated (without googling)?

[robosmith]

16 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Trusting the CDC for your health is  like trusting the Nazis for Jewish religious faith.

But if you're looking for "Excess Deaths," you own Adolf Eichmann

far exceeded the Hitler Holocaust when he helped draft Roe V. Wade.

The BILLIONS of babies torn apart would easily be defined as "excessive deaths,"

Seig Heil, you creep.

As USUAL you FAILED to answer the QUESTION and posted a meaningless RANT instead. LMAO

No "babies" are ever torn apart legally.

[reason10]

57 minutes ago, robosmith said:

As USUAL you FAILED to answer the QUESTION and posted a meaningless RANT instead. LMAO

No "babies" are ever torn apart legally.

Yes they were YOU FUGGING NAZI.

[robosmith]

22 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Yes they were YOU FUGGING NAZI.

IF you can't answer the question in the OP then GTFO of my thread.

"Excess deaths" has a specific meaning and NOTHING TO DO WITH DEATH of the UNBORN. 

They are not COUNTED in the death statistics. DUH

[reason10]

47 minutes ago, robosmith said:

IF you can't answer the question in the OP then GTFO of my thread.

"Excess deaths" has a specific meaning and NOTHING TO DO WITH DEATH of the UNBORN. 

They are not COUNTED in the death statistics. DUH

And Jews were not counted as real lives either, ADOLF.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, reason10 said:

And Jews were not counted as real lives either, ADOLF.

THEY ARE HERE. Duh

The UNBORN that die are not counted as statistical deaths ANYWHERE because it's almost impossible to determine; esp when they are just zygote or YOUNGER, tragic as that MAY be. 

[WestCanMan]

On 8/24/2023 at 8:58 PM, NYLefty said:

As a contagious disease control expert I'm sure you can tell us why children should not receive the Covid vaccine. While you're at it explain why they shouldn't receive the dozens of other childhood vaccines almost ever child in every western nation receives.

Ill be waiting for your highly educated opinion on the matter you freakin dingbat

In 2 years in Canada we only had 19 deaths among 8 million kids. That means that 1 in 420,000 kids died of covid here. Does that tell you that they need to take an experimental form of vax?

Do you know how many kids out of 420,000 have things like CF, cancer, diabetes, etc? And almost none of them were being seriously affected by covid.

I'm not saying that means "No kids should ever vax", but it's definitely not a situation where people should feel pressure to give their kids an experimental jab. 

Globally only 1 in 300,000 kids died of covid. Rebound's article found 17,400 and I don't even know if that's for 1 year or 3 years. By contrast 250,000 kids died of TB in 2015 alone. So, globally, even though kids are fighting things like TB, covid wasn't harming them enough to factor in their deaths. 

The medical 'experts' who were advocating for vaccinating kids couldn't even point to serious injury to any kids from covid.  Nothing. You can't either. All you can say is "CNN told me." Fauci told me. Rochelle Wolenski told me.

But here's the thing: the never told you "why" they should do it. They just said "do it". And there were lots of reasons why it shouldn't be done. The vax clearly isn't preventing infection because tens of thousands of multi-vaxed have died of covid in Canada. 4xers were dying faster than anyone else in summer of 2022, and in 2020 when there was no vax and we opened everything up, deaths plummeted to the tens per week. In summer of 2022 thousands of multi-jabbed died each week. 

 

There is no case for vaxing kids. None at all. Why don't you find me some stats showing that covid kills kids? No one else has them.  

[reason10]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

THEY ARE HERE. Duh

The UNBORN that die are not counted as statistical deaths ANYWHERE because it's almost impossible to determine; esp when they are just zygote or YOUNGER, tragic as that MAY be. 

This

is no different from this

 

You are a monster, Adolf.

[NYLefty]

9 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

In 2 years in Canada we only had 19 deaths among 8 million kids. That means that 1 in 420,000 kids died of covid here. Does that tell you that they need to take an experimental form of vax?

Do you know how many kids out of 420,000 have things like CF, cancer, diabetes, etc? And almost none of them were being seriously affected by covid.

I'm not saying that means "No kids should ever vax", but it's definitely not a situation where people should feel pressure to give their kids an experimental jab. 

Globally only 1 in 300,000 kids died of covid. Rebound's article found 17,400 and I don't even know if that's for 1 year or 3 years. By contrast 250,000 kids died of TB in 2015 alone. So, globally, even though kids are fighting things like TB, covid wasn't harming them enough to factor in their deaths. 

The medical 'experts' who were advocating for vaccinating kids couldn't even point to serious injury to any kids from covid.  Nothing. You can't either. All you can say is "CNN told me." Fauci told me. Rochelle Wolenski told me.

But here's the thing: the never told you "why" they should do it. They just said "do it". And there were lots of reasons why it shouldn't be done. The vax clearly isn't preventing infection because tens of thousands of multi-vaxed have died of covid in Canada. 4xers were dying faster than anyone else in summer of 2022, and in 2020 when there was no vax and we opened everything up, deaths plummeted to the tens per week. In summer of 2022 thousands of multi-jabbed died each week. 

 

There is no case for vaxing kids. None at all. Why don't you find me some stats showing that covid kills kids? No one else has them.  

Once again your made up stats are all wet

[robosmith]

11 minutes ago, reason10 said:

This

is no different from this

 

 

You are a monster, Adolf.

You are an lDIOT, jackass.

[WestCanMan]

On 8/26/2023 at 8:58 AM, NYLefty said:

Once again your made up stats are all wet

I posted the data you stupid racist POS. 

[Rebound]

On 8/25/2023 at 11:07 PM, WestCanMan said:

In 2 years in Canada we only had 19 deaths among 8 million kids. That means that 1 in 420,000 kids died of covid here. Does that tell you that they need to take an experimental form of vax?

Do you know how many kids out of 420,000 have things like CF, cancer, diabetes, etc? And almost none of them were being seriously affected by covid.

I'm not saying that means "No kids should ever vax", but it's definitely not a situation where people should feel pressure to give their kids an experimental jab. 

Globally only 1 in 300,000 kids died of covid. Rebound's article found 17,400 and I don't even know if that's for 1 year or 3 years. By contrast 250,000 kids died of TB in 2015 alone. So, globally, even though kids are fighting things like TB, covid wasn't harming them enough to factor in their deaths. 

The medical 'experts' who were advocating for vaccinating kids couldn't even point to serious injury to any kids from covid.  Nothing. You can't either. All you can say is "CNN told me." Fauci told me. Rochelle Wolenski told me.

But here's the thing: the never told you "why" they should do it. They just said "do it". And there were lots of reasons why it shouldn't be done. The vax clearly isn't preventing infection because tens of thousands of multi-vaxed have died of covid in Canada. 4xers were dying faster than anyone else in summer of 2022, and in 2020 when there was no vax and we opened everything up, deaths plummeted to the tens per week. In summer of 2022 thousands of multi-jabbed died each week. 

 

There is no case for vaxing kids. None at all. Why don't you find me some stats showing that covid kills kids? No one else has them.  

But I did show you the stats. What’s more, we don’t have a control group; we had extensive masking and isolation which also prevented infections and death. 

What’s more, even though we agree Covid hasn’t had high lethality in children, it can still cause permanent respiratory damage and it can infect others.  Imagine how many teachers would be killed by unprotected students!
 

President Bush first created the pandemic playbook. It was his idea.  Hopefully, we won’t see anything like this again; in 100 years time, if another one  appears, our technology will kill it instantly. 

[eyeball]

On 8/25/2023 at 11:07 PM, WestCanMan said:

But here's the thing: the never told you "why" they should do it. They just said "do it".

FFS, of course they said why - to reduce the chance of them catching COVID and reduce the number of potential carriers.

You obviously weren't listening but that's what they said.

[WestCanMan]

21 hours ago, Rebound said:

But I did show you the stats. What’s more, we don’t have a control group; we had extensive masking and isolation which also prevented infections and death. 

What’s more, even though we agree Covid hasn’t had high lethality in children, it can still cause permanent respiratory damage and it can infect others.  Imagine how many teachers would be killed by unprotected students!
 

President Bush first created the pandemic playbook. It was his idea.  Hopefully, we won’t see anything like this again; in 100 years time, if another one  appears, our technology will kill it instantly. 

You showed me that 1 in 300,000 kids died of covid, and you didn't even say if that was the cumulative total for 2 or 3 years or just the deaths from 1 year. In any event, you didn't show me anything remotely convincing about vaxing children. 

Now you want me to just go on your "out of your ass" comment about long-term complications. Do you have a stat for that? Is it one in 200,000 children that gets long-term complications? How does it compare to the flu?

Not many teachers at all would be killed by covid. How many teachers do you know that are over 80 with co-morbidities? 

You guys keep saying "We should vax young people to prevent old people from getting sick/dying", then you say the only reason that covid deaths went up by 30% in 2022 was because infections increased exponentially", but in case you missed it, that was after we vaxed 85% of our population.

Are you admitting that jabbing people didn't slow down the rate of infections?

[robosmith]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You showed me that 1 in 300,000 kids died of covid, and you didn't even say if that was the cumulative total for 2 or 3 years or just the deaths from 1 year. In any event, you didn't show me anything remotely convincing about vaxing children. 

Now you want me to just go on your "out of your ass" comment about long-term complications. Do you have a stat for that? Is it one in 200,000 children that gets long-term complications? How does it compare to the flu?

Not many teachers at all would be killed by covid. How many teachers do you know that are over 80 with co-morbidities? 

You guys keep saying "We should vax young people to prevent old people from getting sick/dying", then you say the only reason that covid deaths went up by 30% in 2022 was because infections increased exponentially", but in case you missed it, that was after we vaxed 85% of our population.

Are you admitting that jabbing people didn't slow down the rate of infections?

Vaccines don't STOP people from being infected. They ONLY give your body a head start in fighting it off.

IF it is HIGHLY EFFECTIVE, you might not know you ever had it. But the important thing is, making the infection very mild and NOT life threatening.

If you were a doctor instead of a statistician, you would know that.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Vaccines don't STOP people from being infected. They ONLY give your body a head start in fighting it off.

So why did we force young, healthy people to vax when we knew that they didn't need one? They still spread covid either way...

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IF it is HIGHLY EFFECTIVE, you might not know you ever had it. But the important thing is, making the infection very mild and NOT life threatening.

That's what covid was for healthy people under 60 back in 2020 when there was no jab. Don't you remember the jokes about: "One of the symptoms is not having any symptoms"?

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If you were a doctor instead of a statistician, you would know that.

Drs aren't gods, and they don't know more than anyone else about what will and won't work until they see it in action, then statistics get the final say.

Almost 90% of covid deaths were among the jabbed, AND that's with deaths being up 24-30% from previous years. 

"Hi Dr, now that we forced young, healthy people to vax, and 85% of Canadians are vaccinated, are deaths and hospitalizations down?"

"Infections are up exponentially (according to robo), deaths are up by 30% year over year, and almost 90% of covid deaths were among the vaxed when the gov't stopped giving out that data. It's safe to say that hospitalizations are down though, despite all the excess death and infections. That's one sweet vax, son."

[robosmith]

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So why did we force young, healthy people to vax when we knew that they didn't need one? They still spread covid either way...

Spread is done by symptoms like coughing and sneezing. Mild infections often do not exhibit those symptoms and surgical masks help to mitigate the spread. Good masks like N95 generally prevent the spread if they are worn properly.

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

That's what covid was for healthy people under 60 back in 2020 when there was no jab. Don't you remember the jokes about: "One of the symptoms is not having any symptoms"?

No, never heard that "joke."

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Drs aren't gods, and they don't know more than anyone else about what will and won't work until they see it in action, then statistics get the final say.

Drs not only know the statistics, they KNOW THE MECHANISMS. When did you READ a medical journal?

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Almost 90% of covid deaths were among the jabbed, AND that's with deaths being up 24-30% from previous years. 

When almost everyone is vaxxed, that means almost all deaths are among the vaxxed. The question is whether the deaths per population were reduced. Massive (60,000+) Pharma studies say they WERE.

30 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"Hi Dr, now that we forced young, healthy people to vax, and 85% of Canadians are vaccinated, are deaths and hospitalizations down?"

"Infections are up exponentially (according to robo), deaths are up by 30% year over year, and almost 90% of covid deaths were among the vaxed when the gov't stopped giving out that data. It's safe to say that hospitalizations are down though, despite all the excess death and infections. That's one sweet vax, son."

Infections spread exponentially because the number of existing infections has grown and is far higher and spread out.

It's clear that countries which had a HIGH vaccinated rate had a lower death rate.

We see exactly that here in RED states where the vaccine was discouraged (by fear mongering) compared to BLUE states where it was PROMOTED.

You had 3 cases of COVID and I HAD NONE despite my extensive INTERNATIONAL travel.

[WestCanMan]

25 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Spread is done by symptoms like coughing and sneezing. Mild infections often do not exhibit those symptoms and surgical masks help to mitigate the spread. Good masks like N95 generally prevent the spread if they are worn properly.

So then there was no reason for vaccine mandates, right?

If people aren't infectious unless they're coughing or sneezing then everyone had equal reason for being allowed/not allowed in public places.

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No, never heard that "joke."

Are you honestly trying to say that you never heard about "asymptomatic carriers" until after the vax came out? Sorry, that's not gonna fly. No one is gonna pretend that with you. It's just an admission of your own stupidity.

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Drs not only know the statistics, they KNOW THE MECHANISMS. When did you READ a medical journal?

At the end of the day, the viral load in the nasopharynx doesn't matter if the person is dead from covid. The statistician's tally trumps the promises of the people with everything to gain from big pharma. Sorry, kid.

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When almost everyone is vaxxed, that means almost all deaths are among the vaxxed. The question is whether the deaths per population were reduced. Massive (60,000+) Pharma studies say they WERE.

No, when everyone is vaxed then theoretically the vax can't find enough hosts to propagate it.

Instead of a subway with 50 people in it resulting in 35 infections, there would only be 7 or 8 possible carriers if they're 85% vaxed, and the presence of all the vaxed among the crowd naturally forces the unvaxed to be socially distanced. Ergo, covid would be lucky to close enough to 2 suitable hosts to infect. 

But in 2022, by your own admission, covid infections rose exponentially.

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Infections spread exponentially because the number of existing infections has grown and is far higher and spread out.

The number of infections should not have gone up exonentially once 85% of the population was vaxed. That's the exact opposite of what happens when you vax your population. 

We spent a lot of money to increase the number of deaths. 

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It's clear that countries which had a HIGH vaccinated rate had a lower death rate.

Wrong. Countries like Egypt and Iraq had almost no vaxed and very low death rates. 

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We see exactly that here in RED states where the vaccine was discouraged (by fear mongering) compared to BLUE states where it was PROMOTED.

Wrongola, little covidi0t. California had the highest death toll by far. FYI that's the state where Gavin Newsom had his big gathering at the French Laundry restaurant during the lockdowns. 

NY State had almost as many deaths as Florida and Texas and just half the population. 19M compared to 40.

Go fish, idi0t. 

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You had 3 cases of COVID and I HAD NONE despite my extensive INTERNATIONAL travel.

I've never been diagnosed with covid - I didn't get sick enough to go to a Dr.

I just assume that I had covid because the flu was down by 95% compared to every other year in the last century. (Weird, hey?)

[robosmith]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

So then there was no reason for vaccine mandates, right?

There were NO vaccine mandates here. Everyone had the choice of regular testing instead. Except for healthcare workers by THEIR EMPLOYERS.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

If people aren't infectious unless they're coughing or sneezing then everyone had equal reason for being allowed/not allowed in public places.

I never had a problem going to public places here as long as I was wearing a mask. 

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Are you honestly trying to say that you never heard about "asymptomatic carriers" until after the vax came out?

Sorry, that's not gonna fly. No one is gonna pretend that with you. It's just an admission of your own stupidity.

I never heard your "joke." And you believing ^this is just YOUR STUPIDITY.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

At the end of the day, the viral load in the nasopharynx doesn't matter if the person is dead from covid. The statistician's tally trumps the promises of the people with everything to gain from big pharma. Sorry, kid.

Trouble is your "analysis" means nothing because you don't understand the mechanisms.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

No, when everyone is vaxed then theoretically the vax can't find enough hosts to propagate it.

^Still doesn't understand that vaxxed does not mean uninfected. It ONLY means a much better chance to fight it off and possibly less contagious, but not close up.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Instead of a subway with 50 people in it resulting in 35 infections, there would only be 7 or 8 possible carriers if they're 85% vaxed, and the presence of all the vaxed among the crowd naturally forces the unvaxed to be socially distanced. Ergo, covid would be lucky to close enough to 2 suitable hosts to infect. 

Are you really trying to claim that 85% of Canadians got double vaxxed in the first year it was available?

We still only have ~65% full vax status.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

But in 2022, by your own admission, covid infections rose exponentially.

The spread was exponential because many more were infected.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Wrongola, little covidi0t. California had the highest death toll by far.

Death toll is NOT death RATE. Duh.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

NY State had almost as many deaths as Florida and Texas and just half the population. 19M compared to 40.

NYC has a very high pop density and more major AIRPORTS.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Go fish, idi0t. 

Sorry, you LOSE.

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I've never been diagnosed with covid - I didn't get sick enough to go to a Dr.

I just assume that I had covid because the flu was down by 95% compared to every other year in the last century. (Weird, hey?)

I was never sick at all until I got my 5th dose THIS YEAR, before going around the world.

I was probably due for the flu after 6 years of not getting it.

[robosmith]

33 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Bullshit snipped

How do death rates from COVID-19 differ between people who are vaccinated and those who are not?

 

 

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

There were NO vaccine mandates here. Everyone had the choice of regular testing instead. Except for healthcare workers by THEIR EMPLOYERS.

We had them in Canada. Leftards loved them.

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I never had a problem going to public places here as long as I was wearing a mask. 

In Canada we needed a gesundheitspass to go into any restaurants, gyms, etc. We could only go into grocery stores, but in Que they toyed with the idea of banning the dirty, dirty unvaxed from there too.

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I never heard your "joke." And you believing ^this is just YOUR STUPIDITY.

So you are honestly trying to tell me that where you lived you never heard of asymptomatic covid carriers until after the vax was out? Can you confirm or deny that clearly?

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Trouble is your "analysis" means nothing because you don't understand the mechanisms.

I understand the mechanisms just fine. Stop using an appeal to authority as the basis of your argument.

When we were all unvaxed, healthy adults had a 99.99% survival rate. The year after we got 85% of the population vaxed our deaths went up by 30%, and almost all of them were vaxed. Just under 90%. 

That never qualified as a "vaccine" until the definition was changed to accommodate "experimental drugs with a success rate so low that it appears to be going the other way". 

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^Still doesn't understand that vaxxed does not mean uninfected. It ONLY means a much better chance to fight it off and possibly less contagious, but not close up.

Are you pretending that we weren't all told that the vax would prevent infection? We didn't "have to worry about giving covid to grandma"? 

Are you pretending that Fauci and Biden and Trudeau weren't saying that "It's now a pandemic of the unvaccinated"?

Do you realize that in order to say what's rolling off your tongue right now, you're acknowledging that you were lied to several times? 

How do you feel about the fact that you were lied to? I'm gonna go ahead and guess that you won't acknowledge that I even wrote that.

Do you understand that people accepted that vax into their bodies after being told that "It is safe and it prevents infection" and they were lied to on both counts?

Do you understand that the jab killed people? Do you understand that the vax caused serious, possibly permanent injuries to young, healthy people who didn't need a vax at all? Do you understand that tens of thousands of multi-"vaxed" Canadians have died of covid? 

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Are you really trying to claim that 85% of Canadians got double vaxxed in the first year it was available?

We still only have ~65% full vax status.

 

The field that says "people" can be changed to say "adults".

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Death toll is NOT death RATE. Duh.

Good gawd you're stupid. The timeline is the exact same for both states - Jan 2020 to today. If you know the death toll and the population of each state then you inherently understand the varying rates. 

Texas 30M people, 92K deaths.

NY State 19.4M people, 77K deaths.

Exact same timeline, to the minute. 

At a glance anyone can see that Texas has 50% more people than NY State (20 x 1.5 = 30) and far less than 50% more deaths. In fact it's only 19.5% more deaths (77 x 1.195 = 92). 

When I say "Texas has 50% more people than NY State and only 19.5% more covid deaths", anyone with a basic understanding of math knows exactly how Texas's covid death rate compares to NY State's. 

The only reason that you don't know that is that you don't have an inherent understanding of math. 

Bottom line, I quickly compared the up-to-the-second covid death rates with sufficient accuracy to prove that your statement was a lie: it's a fait accompli. 

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NYC has a very high pop density and more major AIRPORTS.

Whooooooaaaa, suddenly pop density matters to leftards?

For 2 years leftards here were comparing Canada's covid death rate to America's death rate as if it was a legitimate straight-across comparison. I heard "Twudo iz betr then Twumpy cuz ar deth rate iz loer!", not just from leftards here but they even said it on TV. 

Somehow people in Spuzzum and Flin Flon theoretically get the same exposure to covid as the 4.3M people who ride the NYC subway every day. 

Now that a bit of common sense is convenient suddenly it matters.

Well, guess what spit fer brains: the comp between Texas and NY State is far more apt than a comp between Canada and the US. 

The metro areas of Houston, Dallas, Austin and San Antonio hold 7M, 6M, 2.5M and 2M people respectively. That's 17.5M people in 4 cities. 

La Guardia and JFK airports are almost identical to DFW and GB Intercontinental airports. 16M and 30M passengers per year respectively. 

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Sorry, you LOSE.

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I was never sick at all until I got my 5th dose THIS YEAR, before going around the world.

So you were unvaxed for a full year and probably a half without getting covid.

Then you didn't get covid after 1 dose, 2 doses, 3 doses or 4 doses, and after the 5th dose you got sick with covid. How long have you had 5 doses for? Was it less than a year and a half? 

Does it sound like you're becoming more immune to covid or less?

I'm not even gonna say it. Everyone knows. 

Edited August 29, 2023 by WestCanMan

[WestCanMan]

Robo: In Canada, where I live, almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed. The death rate among the 4x-vaxed was through the roof.

From comparing the rolling death stats month to month you can see that:

155 unvaxed died between Aug 21 and Sept 25

122 Dbl-vaxed died (that's a demo that's not supposed to get many deaths at all - it's the "forced to vax" group. I.e., the healthy young people who only vaxed because they were forced to vax if they wanted to keep their jobs)

482 triple-vaxed died in that month.

323 quadruple-vaxed died in that month.

That's 1,082 total covid deaths, and only 155 of them (14.3%) were unvaxed.

323/1082 = 29.8% of the covid deaths were among the 4xers and you can see from the chart below that only about 10% of the population was 4x-vaxed at that time. 

323 + 482 = 805/1082 = 74%

74% of the covid deaths that month were among the 3x- and 4x-vaxed.

And keep in mind when you're looking at this, that in addition to the fact that almost 90% of the covid deaths were among the multi-vaxed, deaths were up by 30% from 2021. 

There were way more deaths and almost all of the deaths that year were multi-vaxed. That's some kinda vax right there....

Your American data tells the exact opposite story from what our data in Canada shows, and the American data is apparently just a rate that they threw out of their ass. The death tolls aren't there. It looks like complete BS, and it's coming from the people who said this: (see 0:34-0:47 for the statement right from the CDC director's own mouth which was actually known to be completely false at the time she said it)

 

[robosmith]

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Bullshit snipped

Death RATES were 2-38 times higher for the unvaccinated until Spring 2023:

 

Now how about answering the OP question?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Death RATES were 2-38 times higher for the unvaccinated until Spring 2023:

 

Now how about answering the OP question?

I have the actual death stats for our entire country. Canada.

Almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaccinated here and then our gov't stopped publishing those stats. You're dealing with stats that come from people who said this, when it was known to be completely false: 

Are you going to deny that she was lying now? Do you think that the dat ever really said what she claimed here? If so, you're wrong, but do you think that what she said still holds true? I just gotta know what's going on inside that wee, idjit head of yours.

Case closed.

The answer to the question from the OP was self-explanatory. If you think it's a tricky calculation, that's telling.  

[robosmith]

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I have the actual death stats for our entire country. Canada.

Almost 90% of covid deaths were among the multi-vaccinated here and then our gov't stopped publishing those stats. You're dealing with stats that come from people who said this, when it was known to be completely false: 

Are you going to deny that she was lying now? Do you think that the dat ever really said what she claimed here? If so, you're wrong, but do you think that what she said still holds true? I just gotta know what's going on inside that wee, idjit head of yours.

Case closed.

The case is that the vaccines work, though I neglected the bump in vaccinated deaths.

Should have said 2-10 times HIGHER death RATE for unvaccinated.

7 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The answer to the question from the OP was self-explanatory. If you think it's a tricky calculation, that's telling.  

All I know is that you refuse to answer the question. That is far more suspect than "telling."

If you know what it means, then just say it. Until then, you're EVADING for a REASON.

[WestCanMan]

18 hours ago, robosmith said:

The case is that the vaccines work, though I neglected the bump in vaccinated deaths.

Should have said 2-10 times HIGHER death RATE for unvaccinated.

All I know is that you refuse to answer the question. That is far more suspect than "telling."

If you know what it means, then just say it. Until then, you're EVADING for a REASON.

The case is that there is no classical covid 'vaccine' whatsoever.

By the classical definition, vaccines "give immunity to pathogens" and tens of thousands of Canadians died of covid after receiving multiple jabs. 

There's a dumbed-down version of "vaccine" now, whereby a lab can hold secret information about a drug for 70 years which claims that it is a success, and if they can BS enough people into taking it, it is called a vaccine. Tens of thousands of people can die after 'vaxxing' and that doesn't change anything. 

 

The calculation for all-cause deaths is self-explanatory, stupid. The fact that you find it challenging is just proof of your stupidity.