Moonlight Graham Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 When Al Gore lost to Bush he said the election was stolen. When Obama won Trump said Obama was born outside the US which made him ineligible and wanted to see his birth certificate. When Trump won Hillary said the election was stolen. When Trump lost he said the election was stolen. So in conclusion, every election of the last 20 years has been stolen. As a bonus, apparently the Chinese have been rigging the last 2 elections in certain constituencies in Canada to help get Trudeau elected, plus some Chinese BS in provincial and municipal elections. Eagerly awaiting the election of PeePee with the help of the Russian mafia-government and their oligarch masters. We live in wonderful times. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
robosmith Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 I believe Hillary said that Trump cheated with illegal campaign aid from Russia, not that the election was "stolen." Both Hillary and Gore conceded. Trump never did. 1 Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 16, 2023 Report Posted August 16, 2023 51 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: When Al Gore lost to Bush he said the election was stolen. When Obama won Trump said Obama was born outside the US which made him ineligible and wanted to see his birth certificate. When Trump won Hillary said the election was stolen. When Trump lost he said the election was stolen. So in conclusion, every election of the last 20 years has been stolen. As a bonus, apparently the Chinese have been rigging the last 2 elections in certain constituencies in Canada to help get Trudeau elected, plus some Chinese BS in provincial and municipal elections. Eagerly awaiting the election of PeePee with the help of the Russian mafia-government and their oligarch masters. We live in wonderful times. That's a pretty good list, but tbh Trump was late to the birther movement. A couple of things to consider: 1) Nothing on that list compares to the 2017-2019 attempt to oust Trump as president. Compared to that one there was just a bit of whining. 2) A new wrinkle was added in 2021 when questioning elections became a federal offence. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: When Al Gore lost to Bush he said the election was stolen. When Obama won Trump said Obama was born outside the US which made him ineligible and wanted to see his birth certificate. When Trump won Hillary said the election was stolen. When Trump lost he said the election was stolen. So in conclusion, every election of the last 20 years has been stolen. As a bonus, apparently the Chinese have been rigging the last 2 elections in certain constituencies in Canada to help get Trudeau elected, plus some Chinese BS in provincial and municipal elections. Eagerly awaiting the election of PeePee with the help of the Russian mafia-government and their oligarch masters. We live in wonderful times. Yet only 1 guy and his lawyers have been charged for making such a claim Quote
Guest Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 45 minutes ago, West said: Yet only 1 guy and his lawyers have been charged for making such a claim That's awful! Who was that? FDR? JFK? Henry VIII? Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted August 17, 2023 Author Report Posted August 17, 2023 2 hours ago, robosmith said: I believe Hillary said that Trump cheated with illegal campaign aid from Russia, not that the election was "stolen." Both Hillary and Gore conceded. Trump never did. Ok, so even though the elections were stolen, for the good of democracy Gore and Clinton conceded anyways. Otherwise, Al Gore could have stormed the Capitol in the name of hanging chads. So the peaceful transfer of power relies on conceding when the other person steals more votes than you do. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Moonlight Graham Posted August 17, 2023 Author Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, West said: Yet only 1 guy and his lawyers have been charged for making such a claim But Michael Moore said that Al Gore was the real winner of the 2000 election. He put it in his movie. Why were there so many conspiracy theorists in the House of Reps? Edited August 17, 2023 by Moonlight Graham 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Guest Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Ok, so even though the elections were stolen, for the good of democracy Gore and Clinton conceded anyways. Otherwise, Al Gore could have stormed the Capitol in the name of hanging chads. So the peaceful transfer of power relies on conceding when the other person steals more votes than you do. It might rely on using the courts, and then not being a deranged wingnut crybaby conspiracy theorist when the courts tell you to fück off. But I'm not American, so I don't know for sure. Quote
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 29 minutes ago, bcsapper said: It might rely on using the courts, and then not being a deranged wingnut crybaby conspiracy theorist when the courts tell you to fück off. But I'm not American, so I don't know for sure. They claimed that Gore not getting to be president was racist lol Quote
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 15 minutes ago, West said: They claimed that Gore not getting to be president was racist lol You are aware that Gore is white? Quote
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, Aristides said: You are aware that Gore is white? I don't think they were lol Stacey Abrams said the Georgia race was stolen/rigged. That's two political candidates in two years who said there was something fishy in Georgia. How can the results be trusted??? Quote
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 1 minute ago, West said: I don't think they were lol Stacey Abrams said the Georgia race was stolen/rigged. That's two political candidates in two years who said there was something fishy in Georgia. How can the results be trusted??? Gore appealed to the courts and lost. He then conceded, unlike your crybaby and his cult followers. Quote
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, Aristides said: Gore appealed to the courts and lost. He then conceded, unlike your crybaby and his cult followers. Gore pressured congress to do something about the election result. No different than Donnie. Quote
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, robosmith said: I believe Hillary said that Trump cheated with illegal campaign aid from Russia, not that the election was "stolen." Both Hillary and Gore conceded. Trump never did. Nah.. Hillary claimed she was the rightful winner and some democrats even tried to contest the ballot. None have been charged Quote
robosmith Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: That's a pretty good list, but tbh Trump was late to the birther movement. A couple of things to consider: 1) Nothing on that list compares to the 2017-2019 attempt to oust Trump as president. Compared to that one there was just a bit of whining. Because you believe impeachment was on the line if Mueller found collusion? The FACT is collusion between the CAMPAIGN (mainly Manafort) and Russia WAS FOUND. 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: 2) A new wrinkle was added in 2021 when questioning elections became a federal offence. And your "new wrinkle" is a LIE. As the indictment STATES, merely "questioning" (AKA LYING) about the election is NOT ILLEGAL and Trump was NOT indicted for that. Duh. Quote
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, West said: Gore pressured congress to do something about the election result. No different than Donnie. No he didn't and Donnie incited his cult to attack the Capital and tried to coerce election officials and his own VP into overturning the election. That is why he is being charged. 17 minutes ago, West said: Nah.. Hillary claimed she was the rightful winner and some democrats even tried to contest the ballot. None have been charged Hillary conceded the day after the election. Donnie is still whining. Quote
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: No he didn't and Donnie incited his cult to attack the Capital and tried to coerce election officials and his own VP into overturning the election. That is why he is being charged. Hillary conceded the day after the election. Donnie is still whining. Your unsubstantiated claims that Donnie incites a riot are ridiculous and a conspiracy theory. There most definitely were members of congress who tried to overturn the election in 2000. See clip above. Hillary may have "conceded" but then went on tour claiming she was the rightful winner even going as far as calling the winner of the 2016 election, Donald J Trump "illegitimate" and democrats fanned up a phony investigation into "collusion". No prison time for that hoax https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html Edited August 17, 2023 by West Quote
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, West said: Your unsubstantiated claims that Donnie incites a riot are ridiculous and a conspiracy theory. There most definitely were members of congress who tried to overturn the election in 2000. See clip above. Hillary may have "conceded" but then went on tour claiming she was the rightful winner even going as far as calling the winner of the 2016 election, Donald J Trump "illegitimate" and democrats fanned up a phony investigation into "collusion". No prison time for that hoax https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html What did Hillary do to overturn the election? Sour grapes are not illegal. The courts will decide what Donnie did. Quote
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: What did Hillary do to overturn the election? Sour grapes are not illegal. The courts will decide what Donnie did. Neither is challenging an election result And Hillary's false claims of the election "not being on the level" and the other lies spewed all over liberal media radicalized leftists to harass Supreme court picks, caused some lunatic to nearly kill Steve Scalise, and their lies caused mass rioting in the US. They should all be tried for sedition against a sitting president Edited August 17, 2023 by West Quote
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 Just now, West said: Neither is challenging an election result Coercing election officials to "find votes", Coercing your VP to not certify an election and appoint phoney electors. Falsely accusing election workers of illegal behaviour. Exiting followers to march on the capital and not calling them off when they trashed the place and were trying to hunt down lawmakers. That isn't challenging an election result, it's an attempted coup. 2 Quote
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: Coercing election officials to "find votes", Coercing your VP to not certify an election and appoint phoney electors. Falsely accusing election workers of illegal behaviour. Exiting followers to march on the capital and not calling them off when they trashed the place and were trying to hunt down lawmakers. That isn't challenging an election result, it's an attempted coup. In context he believed he won Georgia by like 30,000 votes. But yet you have no problem with Hillary falsely claiming Donald Trump "colluded with Russia" for multiple years or the BIG LIE that he refused military aid to Ukraine to ensure an investigation into Biden’s criminal activity which lead to a sham impeachment? And again you lie by omission. Trump said to March "peacefully and patriotically" to the capital. And he never encouraged his vp to "overthrow an election". Duel slate ballots are a legitimate response to a contested election. It nearly happened in 2000 (see the clip above) and 1960. Edited August 17, 2023 by West Quote
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, West said: In context he believed he won Georgia by like 30,000 votes. And again you lie by omission. Trump said to March "peacefully and patriotically" to the capital. And he never encouraged his vp to "overthrow an election". Duel slate ballots are a legitimate response to a contested election. It nearly happened in 2000 (see the clip above) and 1960. He can believe whatever the eff he wants, it's what he did that has him in court. He damn well did pressure Pence to not certify the election. What do you think "Hang Mike Pence" was all about? Quote "Unfortunately, he didn't exercise that power, he could have overturned the Election!" https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-probes-season-finale-focus-trump-supporters-three-hour-rage-2022-07-21/ Edited August 17, 2023 by Aristides Quote
WestCanMan Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Ok, so even though the elections were stolen, for the good of democracy Gore and Clinton conceded anyways. Otherwise, Al Gore could have stormed the Capitol in the name of hanging chads. So the peaceful transfer of power relies on conceding when the other person steals more votes than you do. Clinton conceded ?. You forgot about the part where she went on to call Trump an illegal president, she got her lawyer to bring the bogus Alfa Bank intel to the FBI while pretending that he was doing it as a good samaritan, she sent her other flunkies to bring the bogus dossier to the FBI, then the FBI lied about Trump and committed crimes to get warrants to spy on him for years. Conceded ? 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
West Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 35 minutes ago, Aristides said: He can believe whatever the eff he wants, it's what he did that has him in court. He damn well did pressure Pence to not certify the election. What do you think "Hang Mike Pence" was all about? https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-capitol-probes-season-finale-focus-trump-supporters-three-hour-rage-2022-07-21/ Who cares? He had a duty as president to ensure the laws were faithfully executed and he believed based on sworn affidavit testimony there was funny business. 1 Quote
Aristides Posted August 17, 2023 Report Posted August 17, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, West said: Who cares? He had a duty as president to ensure the laws were faithfully executed and he believed based on sworn affidavit testimony there was funny business. That's what courts are for, that's why we have rule of law, not rule of mob. Pence's duties are defined by the Constitution, not Donnie. Edited August 17, 2023 by Aristides Quote
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