22 per cent of Canadian homebuilders cancel projects amid high rates despite severe housing shortage

[herbie]

The cost of land in the places people want housing built is too f***ing high.
The cost of just the permits to build a house in those same areas is more than the price of a new house 35 years ago.
You can't build a brand new home without installing underground hookups on a new lot, add another tens of thousands,
Look a the price of lumber these days, you can't buy 2x4 studs for 85 cents like a few years ago.
Toss in the price of cement. backfill. $30/hr for labourers let alone carpenters....
 

I think if the govt can shell out tens of billions in corporate welfare like for VW, Chrysler, TMX etc. they could at least drop the GST on building materials and new home sales, the Title and transfer fees for first time buyers and mandate a permit cap of a few hundred bucks to municipalities.
Even better nationalize all mortgage lending for principal residences into the CMHC.

[eyeball]

Speaking of permits and lumber...I built my house out of beachcombed old growth fir and cedar we milled ourselves. Much of it went for boat lumber it was so straight, edge grained and knot free.  Not the crap they sell you at lumber land.

Of course these days you wouldn't be permitted to build much more than a dog house with a log you hauled off a beach.

Edited August 20, 2023 by eyeball

[CdnFox]

35 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Said the revisionist.

Oh look! you've achieved the mental intellect of a parrot    Sorry kiddo i'm not the revisionist   but hey, if you disagree with anything i've said substantially point it out and we'll see.

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But no, when British Columbia was still British it's governors failed/neglected to secure all but a small handful of treaties their king told them to negotiate. When British Columbia became Canadian we inherited that responsibility. The rest as they say is well documented history which of course only compounded Canada's responsibilities.

ANd of course canada has lived up to it's treaty obligations since it became canada. And where it hasn't there's the courts - but if there's no treaty there's no obligations.

But we weren't talking about that, we were talking about the first nations being consulted about allowing 'immigrants' when whitey showed up.  And they were for the most part.

 

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It's like climate change where having to adapt is far harder and more expensive than doing what the right thing would have cost when they had the chance.

It's far cheaper and easier to adapt. That's why the world powers are letting the third world off the hook and letting them pollute - it's too expensive for them to do it 'clean'.  In fact - i've never seen a resaerch paper credibly claim it would have been cheaper to go with green energy to begin with - or even possible.

So that was  a REALLY bad example for you to use

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

But we weren't talking about that, we were talking about the first nations being consulted about allowing 'immigrants' when whitey showed up.  And they were for the most part

Really? The first one's were actually exterminated.

In any case you made it sound like these early consultations took effect everywhere at once when they obviously didn't. And btw, BC chose to not recognize aboriginal title upon confederation. Big mistake, which is one big reason it's so expensive now. But hey if you actually think adapting to that mistake is less expensive then you're probably happy we've put off settling things.

[ExFlyer]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Many - definitely not most.

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Well you're unfortunately correct of course.

Of course they do.  First off - most of it goes to the chiefs and friends so the average first nation person IS still poor, and secondly they got the money by claiming poverty, of course they're going to continue to claim poverty   If they got the money by earning it they'd be out there earning it.   Teach a man to fish, feed him for life.  Give a man a fish, teach him to beg for life.

Yeah, what the band or "nation" gets and is not passed down to the everyday band member is a national disgrace and they should be made to audit and validate their moneys.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Really? The first one's were actually exterminated.

 

Are you talking about the vikings? They weren't exterminated at all.

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In any case you made it sound like these early consultations took effect everywhere at once when they obviously didn't.

No, that would be the voices in your head talking.  I made no such claim

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And btw, BC chose to not recognize aboriginal title upon confederation. Big mistake, which is one big reason it's so expensive now. But hey if you actually think adapting to that mistake is less expensive then you're probably happy we've put off settling things.

I'm sorry - are you claiming that the treaty was responsible for climate change?  Because we were discussing climate change when it came to adapting or preventing 

LOL - sometimes you have trouble keeping all of your nonsense straight don't you   

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

LOL - sometimes you have trouble keeping all of your nonsense straight don't you

Confusing you is as easy as pie

 

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

I'm sorry - are you claiming...

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[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Confusing you is as easy as pie

LOL - talking to the mirror? I was the one who kept it straight   I guess that's your way of saying "I effed up and i don't want to admit it... "   

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Aw noes - i made you cry again    Don't worry about it kiddo - it's not like anyone's expecting you to say something intelligent or keep your stories straight