PPC’s Maxime Bernier fails in quest to win byelection seat in Manitoba

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1 hour ago, I am Groot said:

How sizeable?

Some 10% of Canadians didn't get vaccinated for COVID. Many were probably not overly rabid about it but there were still lots who were, with lots of vaccinated sympathizers too.

If this forum is any indication most of the loudest and partisan anti vaxxers are of the same obnoxious deplorable sort we see in the US, hence my use of the term.

I'd say about 8 - 10% of Canadian voters  almost a couple million at least. That's a pretty big bloc.

[CdnFox]

6 hours ago, eyeball said:

 

The fact a sizable portion of Poilievre's base of support is so effectively deplorable

Ahhh yes - the 'basket of deplorables' argument That worked GREAT for hillary

THe fact that the liberals divided our nation with hatred just like yours will not be lost on a lot of people next election.  That's the simple truth.

[I am Groot]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

Some 10% of Canadians didn't get vaccinated for COVID. Many were probably not overly rabid about it but there were still lots who were, with lots of vaccinated sympathizers too.

If this forum is any indication most of the loudest and partisan anti vaxxers are of the same obnoxious deplorable sort we see in the US, hence my use of the term.

I'd say about 8 - 10% of Canadian voters  almost a couple million at least. That's a pretty big bloc.

I would tend to agree the loudest anti-vaxers were white conservatives. BUT, from what I've seen the majority of those who refused to get vaccines were visible minorities, esp natives and blacks, and they tend to vote Liberal/NDP

[OftenWrong]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

Some 10% of Canadians didn't get vaccinated for COVID. Many were probably not overly rabid about it but there were still lots who were, with lots of vaccinated sympathizers too.

If this forum is any indication most of the loudest and partisan anti vaxxers are of the same obnoxious deplorable sort we see in the US, hence my use of the term.

I'd say about 8 - 10% of Canadian voters  almost a couple million at least. That's a pretty big bloc.

You are just counting the ones who didn't get vaccinated, not including those who were forced to do so or no longer be employed such as myself and my colleagues. 

My opinion isn't only that I think these experimental pharmaceuticals are dangerous, but that people were having them forced upon us. I understand if the benefits outweigh the risks, as is often the case with old people. When they demanded it for kids, and even pregnant women, that kinda raised my eyebrow.    

But hey, you want another shot for yourself who am I to object to that.

Does that make me an antivaxxer?

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8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

THe fact that the liberals divided our nation with hatred just like yours will not be lost on a lot of people next election.  That's the simple truth.

Lots of voters? No, only about the 10% or so I mentioned. Not enough in other words.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, OftenWrong said:

But hey, you want another shot for yourself who am I to object to that.

Does that make me an antivaxxer?

Yes - you'll go to hell now along with the rapists, lawyers and the guy who sets the prices for ice cream trucks.

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

Lots of voters? No, only about the 10% or so I mentioned. Not enough in other words.

Unlikely.  The numbers appear to be closer to 40 - 50  percent.  Polling during the truckers protest for example showed that while the majority didn't approve of what they were doing, the plurality DID have sympathy for their cause and argument about vaxxing.

https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/

49 percent - and into the high 60's when you look at younger voters.

A LOT of people disagreed with the way it was handled and forced on people.  NUMEROUS polls were uncomfortable with that  and after covid a lot of people are waking up to how divided that's left us and how stupid it was not to find a way to keep those health care workers.

Trudeau weaponized the vaccines and covid to win an election and people are realizing that was a pretty horrible thing to do.

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On 6/24/2023 at 7:40 AM, OftenWrong said:

You are just counting the ones who didn't get vaccinated, not including those who were forced to do so or no longer be employed such as myself and my colleagues.

I clearly included vaccinated people amongst the deplorable. I even used the word many.

 

On 6/24/2023 at 7:40 AM, OftenWrong said:

Does that make me an antivaxxer?

Not necessarily. It's the obnoxious manner by which Canadian deplorables reacted to the pandemic and measures to deal with it including vaccines that differentiates them from normal people. It's the same people  screeching the loudest these days about sex, immigration, climate action etc. And of course being woke?

Useful idiocy doesn't begin to describe how handy deplorablism is in the wrong hands. It'll likely be with us until at least the end of the boomer generation if not longer. I think the worst effect of it is how much it distracts politicians and governments from dealing with real issues that are far more serious.

The only thing that's really funny about it is how deplorables blame the left for how they feel about things.

 

Edited June 27, 2023 by eyeball