The progressive left discards Muslims as un-Canadian (national post)

[CdnFox]

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/the-progressive-left-discards-muslims-as-un-canadian

The demographic profile of the two groups couldn’t have been more starkly distinct. On the front lines of the anti gender ideology protests were people of colour and devout Muslims, as well as Christians, facing off against mostly masked old stock white Canadians leading the counter protesters.

The progressive left which immediately judges any cause they disagree with as being “far right,” because it might constitute mainly white Canadians, were here mostly white, facing protesters against the trans agenda who were far more diverse than they were, almost representing a cross section of Canada. The cognitive dissonance was palpable.

 

The ideology of the left tries to bend reality to justify it's numerous and conflicting points so much that It was inevitable that eventually it would bend around completely and bite it's own ass.

That day has come.

[myata]

That would be the new truth of the day (or the truth of the new new day, as you like it), guessing. After all what we were taught about islamophobia, anti-muslim racism rising etc, quick and efficient. No, wrong. Fetch the next one, quick.

Get used to it, Canada. Yes they can and you have none. And good luck (sincerely)

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The progressive left which immediately judges any cause they disagree with as being “far right,” because it might constitute mainly white Canadians, were here mostly white, facing protesters against the trans agenda who were far more diverse than they were, almost representing a cross section of Canada.

I LOVE IT! ?

The leftist mantra of "everyone who is against ultra-prog drivel is a cisgender white male racist devil" just went out the window. 

It's the white man-bunts leading the ultra-prog charge while the "darkies who are always on the side of the ultra-progs" suddenly went off and thought for themselves.

AWWWWW SNAP!!!! Whatcha gonna do now Hillary? Justa-boy? 

Step 1 is obviously to call those darkies "uncle Toms", right? Anyone who is darker than a brown paper bag and thinks like a conservative has to get the Tim Scott/Larry Elder treatment. 

A part of me wants to see watch CTV desperately try to spin this, but my gag reflex won't allow it. 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

A part of me wants to see watch CTV desperately try to spin this

They'll claim it was just the camera angle

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, CdnFox said:

They'll claim it was just the camera angle

"It was a bunch of white racists wearing blackface. They were carrying signs with confederate flags and swastikas."

All the leftards here will say that they saw it too. 

Edited June 17, 2023 by WestCanMan

[CdnFox]

3 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

"It was a bunch of white racists wearing blackface. They wear carrying signs with confederate flags and swastikas."

All the leftards here will say that they saw it too. 

Yeah. Well you know the left's mantra -  WE SPEAK FOR THOSE WHO CANNOT SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES. And also those who can. Especially if we don't' like what they say.

[BeaverFever]

This is a hilarious headline considering the for the past 20-30 years conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian  and were completely consumed by anti-muslim hysteria.   Now this ridiculous op-ed states that because some Muslims are anti-fay/trans anyone who isnt must anti- Muslim 

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

This is a hilarious headline considering the for the past 20-30 years conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian  

Really.  Well - post examples where the conservatives did that. Methinks you're back to writing fiction. Muslims and  christians both have always been present in the conservative ranks.  But i get why you feel the need to lie about it.

 

[Guest]

No-one has a monopoloy on bigotry.  It's heartening to see the left slowly coming to realise that Islam is not their friend, regardless of the support they have shown it in the past.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/17/hamtramck-michigan-muslim-council-lgbtq-pride-flags-banned

[Guest]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

This is a hilarious headline considering the for the past 20-30 years conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian  and were completely consumed by anti-muslim hysteria.   Now this ridiculous op-ed states that because some Muslims are anti-fay/trans anyone who isnt must anti- Muslim 

This is hilarious.  From the OP link.

The so-called progressives reveal their own reactionary side when, in response to what they perceive as betrayal from immigrants and ethnic minorities who don’t buy into their social agenda, some go to the extent of saying that such illiberal people should return to where they came from if they don’t share what they blithely assert to be universally agreed on “Canadian values.”

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

This is a hilarious headline considering the for the past 20-30 years conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian  and were completely consumed by anti-muslim hysteria.   Now this ridiculous op-ed states that because some Muslims are anti-fay/trans anyone who isnt must anti- Muslim 

FYI islam is one of the least liberal ideologies on the planet. 

Mohammed is kinda like Buddha and Jesus because he's a human figure at the head of a major religion, but he is the exact opposite kind of person from Buddha and Jesus.

They all lived during that vast majority of human history when slavery was normal, but Jesus and Buddha never chopped the heads of off people for not converting to their religion and then sold their wives and children into slavery. 

In a country like Canada where people can be considered "guilty of possibly having ancestors several generations back who were slave owners", it's a little bit odd to worship someone who forced women and children into slavery under those circumstances. 

The idea that a muslim can be a liberal causes no small amount of cognitive dissonance. 

[BeaverFever]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Really.  Well - post examples where the conservatives did that. Methinks you're back to writing fiction. Muslims and  christians both have always been present in the conservative ranks.  But i get why you feel the need to lie about it.

 

Post examples of conservatives condemning Islam?  You mean like the the 10 million anti-Islamic posts on this site, or official conservative attacks like the “barbaric cultural practices snitch line”   Can I include Americans burning korans and Trumps lies about thousands of Muslims celebrating 9/11 in New Jersey? What about op-eds in conservatives outlets claiming “Islamophobia doesn’t exist?”

For tonight let’s just start with the easiest find, news articles just focusing on CPC:

How Canada’s far right is using anti-Muslim propaganda to target Trudeau

The video shows a bearded imam purportedly heralding a plan by Justin Trudeau to implement sharia law in Canada, before cutting to an image of the prime minister sitting cross-legged in prayer amid a group of Muslim men.

Shared widely on anti-Trudeau Facebook pages earlier this year, the clumsy montage was presented as evidence that Canada’s 23rd prime minister is bent on subverting the judicial system to please Islamists – probably because he is a closeted Muslim himself.
 

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And unlike the 2016 US election – in which a significant portion of online misinformation was created on Russian troll farms – much of the anti-Muslim propaganda aimed at Trudeau is produced and disseminated by Canadians.

The video of the YouTube imam, for example, was uploaded by a prominent Ontario anti-Muslim activist, and then viewed, shared and liked on at least three anti-Trudeau Facebook pages with a collective reach exceeding 185,000.

Dozens of videos on these pages are a conspiratorial pastiche in which Trudeau coddles Muslim extremists and throws open Canada’s borders at the behest of George Soros. And they have been clicked almost 700,000 times.

The eddies of such online outrage sometimes spread into the real world. At a town hall meeting in January, an audience member accused Trudeau of supporting Sharia law – before intimating that he should be hanged for treason.

More recently, the Conservative party candidate Cameron Ogilvie stepped down after the activist group Press Progress unearthed social media posts in which Ogilvie shared a post accusing Trudeau of wanting to turn Canada into an “Islamic state”.

 

Such conspiracies date back to Trudeau’s 2015 campaign pledge to bring in 25,000 mostly Muslim refugees from war-torn Syria by the end of the year.

The move was a dramatic reversal from the previous Conservative government, which only agreed to increase the number of Syrian refugees admitted into Canada, from 1,300 to 10,000, provided Syria’s non-Muslim religious and ethnic minorities were prioritized.….

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2019/oct/04/canada-far-right-anti-muslim-propaganda-targeting-trudeau
 

 

Canada has an Islamophobia problem — and conservatives are at the root of it

 

 

When the federal government tabled a motion to condemn Islamophobia in 2017 in the wake of the horrific Quebec City mosque shooting that killed six people and injured 19 others, all but one participant in the Conservative leadership race (Michael Chong) at the time voted against it. 

Future leaders Andrew Scheer and Erin O’Toole openly criticized the motion, while former ministers Kellie Leitch and Chris Alexander appeared at a rally organized by Rebel Media and described by the Toronto Star’s Susan Delacourt as a “hateful free-for-all against ‘political correctness.’”

That rally took place at Canada Christian College, the institution run by Charles McVety, who just happens to be a political ally of Ontario Premier Doug Ford. McVety makes no secret of his disdain for Islam and those who practice it, and he’s reportedly argued that “we know that Christians and Jews and Hindus don’t have the same mandate for a hostile takeover.”

 

Derek Sloan, who helped play kingmaker for Erin O’Toole in the CPC’s most recent leadership race, has made a litany of racist and bigoted statements — and was only kicked out of the Conservative caucus for what O’Toole describedas “a pattern of destructive behaviour involving multiple incidents and disrespect towards the Conservative team.” Maxime Bernier, who nearly won the previous Conservative leadership race, has a history of making Islamophobic remarks, including a baseless claim during the 2019 federal election that “Islamist extremists” had infiltrated Canadian politics.

 

 

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There are some conservatives who understand the damage their party and movement has done here. Jeff Bennett, the former Ontario Progressive Conservative candidate in London West (the riding where Monday’s attack happened), posted a statement on Facebook apologizing for his own willingness to overlook the uglier elements and attitudes within his political family. “I’ve come face to face with Anti Muslim attitudes in London Ontario and said ‘thank you for your support,’” Bennett wrote. “I’m so very sorry. I promise to do better.”

Some of those attitudes came from his own campaign volunteers, who apparently had issues with the previous candidate, a lawyer and second-generation Canadian from the Middle East named Ali Chahbar. “I should have asked them to leave,” Bennett wrote. “I did not.”

 

Chahbar, for his part, posted his own thoughts on Twitter. “I think about campaigns I was involved in where I was expected to dignify questions about advancing hidden agendas of shariah law while simultaneously being asked to affirm my Canadian credentials despite being born & raised in this country,” he wrote.

https://www.nationalobserver.com/2021/06/09/opinion/canada-islamophobia-problem-conservatives-are-root
 

Controversies over Islamophobia dog Canada’s conservatives
 

TORONTO (AP) — Candidate controversies over vaccines and Islamophobia dogged the leader of Canada’s opposition Conservative party on Saturday ahead of the Sept. 20 election. 

A Conservative candidate in Nova Scotia apologized for social media posts that weighed in on sharia law and backed banning the burqa worn by some Muslim women. And on Friday the Conservative party confirmed they had dumped Beaches-East York candidate in Toronto after the riding’s Liberal incumbent, Nate Erskine-Smith, highlighted Islamophobic tweets from 2017.
 

https://apnews.com/article/canada-health-religion-media-toronto-23c9a571c5276b48e906331b20403e87
 

How Harper systematically mined anti-Muslim prejudices

By Haroon Siddiqui Columnist

Sun., April 10, 2016
 

 

In times of terrorism, the balance between security and civil rights tilts to the former. The public expects its leaders to stand up to terrorists with resolve. Harper, however, took a leaf out of George W. Bush’s book in stoking fear of Muslim terrorism. But unlike Bush and Barack Obama, both of whom tried to delink terrorism from Islam and Muslims, the prime minister mined, indeed fanned, anti-Muslim prejudices. Going well beyond being tough on terrorists, he not only made anti-Muslim talk respectable but also initiated a range of policies and legislation that constituted cultural warfare on Muslims.

Not until you enumerate all his actions, as I do below, do you realize how extensive and systematic he was in maligning Muslims and mollycoddling Islamophobes…
 

https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/insight/2016/04/10/how-harper-systematically-mined-anti-muslim-prejudices.html

 

When Stephen Harper refers to “barbaric culture,” he means Islam — an anti-Muslim alarm that’s ugly and effective because it gets votes
 

https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/canada/2015/10/05/when-stephen-harper-refers-to-barbaric-culture-he-means-islam-an-anti-muslim-alarm-thats-ugly-and-effective-because-it-gets-votes-edward-keenan.html

 

Muslim groups 'troubled' by Stephen Harper's mosque remark

  

NDP Leader Tom Mulcair decries prime minister's comment as a form of Islamaphobia
 

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.2940488
 

 

How Stephen Harper's Islamophobic gambit backfired and lost him the election in Canada

 

https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2015/10/20/9570301/stephen-harper-niqab-canada
 

With Anti-Muslim Campaign, Canada Has Its Trump Moment
 

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/with-anti-muslim-campaign-canada-has-its-trump-moment.html
 

Stephen Harper’s Challenge to Canadian Identity

Canadians consider themselves welcoming. But in picking on Muslims this election, the prime minister has been anything but.
 

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2015/10/stephen-harper-justin-trudeau-canada-election/411142/

Leitch tries out ‘dog-whistle politics’ with survey on immigrant screening

 

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/leitch-tries-out-dog-whistle-politics-with-survey-on-immigrant-screening/article31707876/

Edited June 18, 2023 by BeaverFever

[BeaverFever]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI islam is one of the least liberal ideologies on the planet. 

Mohammed is kinda like Buddha and Jesus because he's a human figure at the head of a major religion, but he is the exact opposite kind of person from Buddha and Jesus.

They all lived during that vast majority of human history when slavery was normal, but Jesus and Buddha never chopped the heads of off people for not converting to their religion and then sold their wives and children into slavery. 

In a country like Canada where people can be considered "guilty of possibly having ancestors several generations back who were slave owners", it's a little bit odd to worship someone who forced women and children into slavery under those circumstances. 

The idea that a muslim can be a liberal causes no small amount of cognitive dissonance. 

Yel, All more or less true statements.  The opposite can be said for Jesus and Buddha, considering how liberal their teachings were it takes a similar amount of cognitive distance for their followers to be conservative.

FTR though Mohammed didn’t REALLY behead people for not converting, at least not typically but point taken. In fact contrary to popular belief during the medieval and renaissance periods, the Islamic world was far more religiously tolerant than the Christian world which was extremely intolerant of non-Christians. 

Nonetheless unlike the other 2 religious leaders, Mohammad was a medieval warlord-turned conqueror and his teachings and actions reflect that  Liberal Muslims shrug it off the same way Christians shrug off the barbarism of the Inquisition crusades, witch trials, colonialism, slavery etc  

When it comes to religion people just pick and choose what to follow and what to ignore.

[CdnFox]

21 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Post examples of conservatives condemning Islam?

No, That's not what you said.  What you said is " conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian"

Not condemning islam - but calling muslims uncanadian.

The very fact you had to lie and change what you said tells the whole story. Looks like you need correcting again. So lets see if any of your examples have that.

First one  - Nope. You might argue it says that trudeau is anti canadian but nope, nothing about muslims being anti canadian and not even from a conservative group.

You lied.

Second one - Nope.  An opinion piece about islam - not about muslims being anti canadian.

You lied again.

As to the rest

Nope - you lied again

Nope - you lied again

 

Nope - you lied again and just kept going,

 

And they're all opinion peices about harper - NOT ACTUALLY THINGS HARPER SAID.

Like the last one - "What harper REALLY means is...  "  That's always a sign of failure.  What he reallly meant is don't put your daughter in a pizza oven and cook her because she dated a boy. Which happened at the time.

 

So lets recap.  You said conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian.  Then when called on it you changed it to "conservatives don't like islam".

And then not a single thing you posted backed up your original statement and most of it was opinion peices - NOT actual quotes from the conservatives.

THis is why people think you're full of shit. This is why you need constant correction. You're just a liar who can't back up his lies.

[CdnFox]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Yel, All more or less true statements.  The opposite can be said for Jesus and Buddha, considering how liberal their teachings were it takes a similar amount of cognitive distance for their followers to be conservative.

 

Haven't you lied enough for one night?  This entire thread is about them standing together in complete agreement over the gay and trans issue.

Modern islamics tend to be more VIOLENT - modern christians less so, but they have very similar moral beliefs especaily with regards to sexuality.  This situation kind of proves that.

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

I would not worry of such issues, when you are in debt. I have the messages here, it says:

"almost paid my house"

ROFLMAO - you think that's a BAD thing?  First off - yes the house i actually live in, of the houses i own. Is almost paid off.  Which means if i sell it i'll have well over a million dollars left over 

And sure i have health issues - pretty much everyone my age does. But a pill or two and they're gone.  So they don't affect my life much.

Wow - you've been creeping me and that's the best you could do? I"m wealthy and i take a pill?

You however are an alcoholic for life  

When you sober up (when your money and booze runs out) you're going to realize what a pathetic creature that makes you sound like. 

9 minutes ago, Contrarian said:

Man or Woman?! 

I get why you're asking - Sorry kiddo - i get that you'd want to date someone who's richer and smarter than you but honestly - why would ANY man OR woman be interested in a drunken russian jew-hater?

Edited June 18, 2023 by CdnFox

[BeaverFever]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Haven't you lied enough for one night?  This entire thread is about them standing together in complete agreement over the gay and trans issue.

Modern islamics tend to be more VIOLENT - modern christians less so, but they have very similar moral beliefs especaily with regards to sexuality.  This situation kind of proves that.

First of all you need to stop shrieking that opinions you don’t like are “lies”. You truly can’t tell the difference between two that’s obvious but it is impossible for an opinion to be lie.   Your constant need to attack people who say things you don’t like is really annoying. 
 

Second of all you seem to be totally clueless to my point again. Jesus preached charity, tolerance and inclusion and his described sinners as “lost sheep” who require compassion, not contempt, from Christians. He doesn’t mention homosexuality at all in any of his gospels despite it being condemned by Jewish culture and living under Roman  occupation where homosexuality was commonly practiced in certain contexts….ie he is strangely silent on what would have be a clear point of political contention.   In Galatians Paul even yearns for a day “when there is no longer Jew or Greek, slave or free, or male and female”

Today’s conservatives the who are pro-gun, pro-death penalty, chant “lock her up” and shriek against gays and immigrants and refugees aren’t following Jesus or Buddha. I wonder how many conservatives follow Jesus teaching to “love thine enemies”, “turn the other cheek” or that “it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven.”   How many conservatives would sya s Jesus did “Give to him that asks you, and “from him that would borrow of you, turn you not away”  Certainly not you. 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

No, That's not what you said.  What you said is " conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian"

Not condemning islam - but calling muslims uncanadian.

The very fact you had to lie and change what you said tells the whole story. Looks like you need correcting again. So lets see if any of your examples have that.

First one  - Nope. You might argue it says that trudeau is anti canadian but nope, nothing about muslims being anti canadian and not even from a conservative group.

You lied.

Second one - Nope.  An opinion piece about islam - not about muslims being anti canadian.

You lied again.

As to the rest

Nope - you lied again

Nope - you lied again

 

Nope - you lied again and just kept going,

 

And they're all opinion peices about harper - NOT ACTUALLY THINGS HARPER SAID.

Like the last one - "What harper REALLY means is...  "  That's always a sign of failure.  What he reallly meant is don't put your daughter in a pizza oven and cook her because she dated a boy. Which happened at the time.

 

So lets recap.  You said conservatives have LITERALLY been calling Muslims un-Canadian.  Then when called on it you changed it to "conservatives don't like islam".

And then not a single thing you posted backed up your original statement and most of it was opinion peices - NOT actual quotes from the conservatives.

THis is why people think you're full of shit. This is why you need constant correction. You're just a liar who can't back up his lies.

Conservatives’ long and documented history of demonizing, stigmatizing and condemning Islam is well documented. You’re trying to limit the scope of the evidence for 20 years of anti-Muslim baiting to a direct quote of an elected official saying the words “un-Canadian” because otherwise the muslim-bashing is so easy to find.  If you are trying to suggest that there has not been anti-muslim rhetoric from the right across the western world since 9/11 you are living in an alternate reality. 
 

Not all of the links I provided were opinion pieces bit of course since demonization of Islam is an opinion, naturally the response will also be an opinion  

Here’s another one for you:  

 

Conservative party leadership advisor helped create anti-Islam organization

A senior member of Andrew Scheer’s leadership team helped create an anti-Islam organization during his campaign to lead the Conservative Party. Now, that organization is holding events to protest anti-Islamophobia Motion 103 and is bringing together Canada’s anti-Islam pundits and anti-Muslim groups.

Georganne Burke, the Scheer campaign’s Outreach Chair, was involved in the founding of Canadian Citizens for Charter Rights and Freedoms (C3RF). The group warns that the Liberal government is criminalizing criticism of Islam and opening the door for a Sharia (Islamic) takeover of Canadian law. C3RF plans to hold events across the country to advocate against M103 and the Trudeau government.

Georganne Burke is one of at least three senior members of Scheer’s campaign team that have now been linked to the so-called alt-right or anti-Islam groups. Scheer’s Campaign Manager, Hamish Marshall, was a director of Rebel Media, an alt-right media outlet that pushes narratives of white genocide and hosts prominent alt-right figures, and worked out of the Rebel offices during the campaign. He has been named as a campaign chair for the 2019 general election.

Marshall did not respond to interview requests sent to his email address at the Torch Agency, the public affairs and communications firm he leads. The Conservative Party now led by Scheer did not respond to interview requests.

‘EXPERIENCED’ ORGANIZER

The Digital Director for the Scheer campaign, Stephen Taylor, is linked to the alt-right metacanada subreddit. Last year, for example, he posted a comment to provide additional information to members of the subreddit who were e-mailing complaints to the CBC ombudsman. However, he says that it has been awhile since he participated in the subreddit, that he wasn’t fully aware of the increasingly alt-right nature of the subreddit, and that he doesn’t want anything to do with the alt-right. He says he doesn’t have any particular plans to engage with the subreddit in the future, and declined to comment on whether he has a current role with the Conservative Party of Canada.

“Commenting is not involvement,” Georganne Burke, Conservative strategist

Burke invited the first group of members to the C3RF Facebook page (including one of the group’s current administrators) and one of her posts indicates she held a leadership or advisory role while she was working on Scheer’s leadership campaign. In March, the group was preparing a press release to distribute to MPs. “We need to select a media contact,” writes Burke. “Not me. One person who is familiar with working with the media and can manage the press kit and media materials.”

“Some of us reached out to Georganne in the beginning, around spring time, because of her experience,” said Irving Weisdorf, an organizer with C3RF who has been involved since its inception. He’s also the founder of the pro-Israel advocacy organization Mozuud, which has partnered with C3RF on occasion.

Burke is Senior Vice President of the Pathway Group, which is in the business of government relations and providing services for political campaigns, and she has over 10 years of experience as a political operative for the Conservative Party of Canada. She’s a big fan of Donald Trump, according to social media posts and an October 2016 interview with CBC.

“This is what Georganne does you know, and we wanted her advice on how motions work,” Weisdorf noted. Burke’s involvement with C3RF eventually tapered off due to her commitment to the Scheer leadership campaign, he said.

Burke says she “[has] not been involved with C3RF since a couple of weeks after they formed.” She continues to post in the group, but says that “commenting is not involvement,” and declined to comment further.

ANTI-ISLAM INDUSTRY

Burke was also a member of several extreme anti-Muslim groups on Facebook, but says she was only in those groups for information purposes. Burke left at least two of these groups following a story by Anti-Racist Canada which named her as a member of groups like the Worldwide Coalition Against Islam, a group which critics say is anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic. Burke hasn’t posted any explicitly anti-Muslim comments on the C3RF Facebook Page, according to a search of posts in the group.

Scheer has tried to distance himself from the alt-right Rebel Media, and says his party is welcoming to Muslims. The anti-Islam organization co-founded by Burke, however, is connected to the American Islamophobia industry, and anti-Islam figures in Canada.

The anti-Islam industry in the United States and Canada is comprised of dozens of individual pundits, think tanks, and media outlets that host events together and amplify each other’s voices. Some organizations are more careful in their criticism of Islam than others, but they tend to view Islam and the Muslim community as a monolithic entity with a dangerous anti-Western agenda.

On September 10, C3RF held an anti-M103 conference in Toronto which brought together a number of speakers and organizations from the anti-Islam industry.

C3RF has worked with ACT! For Canada (the Canadian branch of ACT! For America) and the Washington DC-based Center for Security Policy, both of which are part of the Islamophobia industry in the United States, according Fear, Inc., a report published by the Center for American Progress.

According to the report, the Center for Security Policy is a “key source of information for the Islamophobia network.” Clare Lopez, CSP’s VP for Research and Analysis, was the keynote speaker at C3RF’s conference, which ACT! For Canada was also a co-partner for, along with conservative think-tank The Mackenzie Institute and the pro-Israel Hasbara Fellowships.

ACT! For Canada has shared articles in support of PEGIDA – an anti-Muslim group in Europe with a Canadian chapter – and frequently links to Robert Spencer and his website, Jihad Watch. Dr. Gad Saad, another C3RF speaker at the September conference, has also hosted Spencer on his Youtube channel. The Southern Poverty Law Centre describes Spencer as an “anti-Muslim propagandist.”

Several members of the C3RF Facebook Page are also members of anti-Muslim groups on Facebook, including the Storm Alliance, an offshoot of the Soldiers of Odin, Blood and Honour, a violent neo-Nazi group, and the III%ers, an armed militia group. C3RF’s Facebook group promoted the September 30 day of action organized by the Storm Alliance and other far right groups to protest the Liberal Party’s immigration policies.

Moreover, the C3RF Calgary Satellite Coordinator is Stephen Garvey, President of the National Advancement Party (NAP) and member of the Worldwide Coalition Against Islam, a white supremacist group. The Jewish Defence League, which has acted as security for several anti-Muslim demonstrations, also provided security for C3RF’s September 10 conference.

‘AGGRESSIVE AND INTOLERANT’

Speakers at the event characterized M-103 as a threat to free speech supported by Muslim extremists whose ultimate goal is to criminalize criticism of Islam.

“The increase in political Islam we’re seeing all across the world is perhaps the biggest threat to Canada,” said Anthony Furey, a Toronto Sun columnist who spoke at the conference. Furey says that the committee hearings on Systemic Racism and Religious Discrimination sparked by M103 can “lead to recommendations” that might suggest outlawing criticisms of Islam.

Mississauga-Erin Mills MP Iqra Khalid tabled private member’s motion M-103 calling on the federal government to eliminate “Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination” in December. The controversial motion has triggered opposition from across the country from people who say it could threaten free speech or usher in shariah law in Canada.

Another Toronto Sun columnist, Sue-Ann Levy, took it one step further by suggesting that liberal centrists and Islamist extremists have a broad overlap in interest. “I got in trouble for saying that Barack Obama has ties to radical Islamic ideology,” she said. “There’s no question in my mind that he does, and I also think that he’s a Muslim.”

Speakers such as Benjamin Dichter, founder of LGBTory, also suggested that an overly liberal and politically correct culture is helping to open the door for radical Islamists to take over Canadian society.

“Some Western liberal leaders are stopping people from asking a very important question,” said Dichter, “the question of whether a more Islamic Canada will become more tolerant, or more aggressive and intolerant of anything other than itself?”

Talking points shared by C3RF, its speakers and partner organizations are almost identical to the positions of extreme anti-Muslim groups and the so-called alt-right. They broadly warn of an unspecified mass of Muslims in the West who want Sharia law and an “Islamic theocracy.”

“The principles and freedoms that undergird both constitutions in the United States and in Canada are Judeo-Christian based,” said keynote speaker Clare Lopez. “Islam doesn’t have such freedoms, such as the freedom of speech; it has the ‘law of slander,’ which it defines as anything that a Muslim dislikes.”

The C3RF’s brochure warns of Muslims who “want to implement at least some aspects of Sharia law,” and who are either using or partnering with Iqra Khalid to implement the “normalization of Sharia law as a respectable form of multicultural expression.”

They’re also broadly critical of Canada’s immigration and refugee policies. In their minds, Islam and the West are in conflict, both abroad and here in Canada, and they are fighting for Western, Judeo-Christian values.

One of C3RF’s partner organizations, ACT! For Canada, was recently denied space at an Ottawa library to host a screening of Killing Europe, an Islamophobic video. The video screening went ahead last Sunday, hosted by the Jewish Defense League at the Toronto Zionist Centre.

Burke had also planned a “Rally to Turn Khadr Settlement Over To Speer and Morris Families” in late July, which was cancelled after it was reported that over half the people who RSVPd on Facebook were connected with anti-Muslim groups and pages.
 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qvzznq/conservative-party-leadership-advisor-helped-create-anti-islam-organization

Edited June 18, 2023 by BeaverFever

[WestCanMan]

16 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Yel, All more or less true statements.  The opposite can be said for Jesus and Buddha, considering how liberal their teachings were it takes a similar amount of cognitive distance for their followers to be conservative.

If you believe the Justin Trudeau/Joe Biden/CNN/CTV narrative about conservatives, i.e. we're all scheming racists who want to beat up our wives and a few 'fags', that makes perfect sense, but FYI that's a complete joke.

Do all leftists believe in rioting and looting for M Brown, the criminal who violently robbed a store and then wrestled with a cop for his gun? Do all leftists believe in post-viability abortions of healthy babies? Do all leftists believe that drag queens need to read books to young children, or that grade 3 children have the wisdom/maturity to choose gender reassignment therapy without their parent's knowledge but 19 yr old college students are too dumb to understand that they'll eventually have to pay back their student loans?

Fact: pretty much every jihadist in Canada will vote for Justin Trudeau, that doesn't mean that everyone else who votes for Trudeau supports Al Qaeda.

Do some racists vote conservative? Of course, but the PCs don't support mass immigration to the same extent as libs, so that was bound to happen. 

If I was a scheming anti-black racist my favourite party would actually be the Dems, hands down. Nothing does more damage to the African American community than the narrative that "all crackas, teachers, pigs, HR personnel and judges hate black people, most of them want to kill you. Look at Trayvon - killed for getting Skittles... You have to become a basketball player, a rapper or a gang-banger if you want to succeed!"

If you love someone who's black then you'll tell them the exact opposite of what the Dems are saying. If you don't believe me then think about the life your kids will have if you manage to convince them that no one will hire them if they get an education. 

If you think about it, probably the worst racist in modern times as Charles Manson, he was so f'ed up that his plan was to murder enough of his own race to start a race war against blacks. What causes more racial division than the Dems celebrating the destruction of communities just for criminals like M Brown?

Doesn't it sem like the Dems want to incite racial violence and hatred? (Dem AG) Keith Ellison sat on a video showing G Floyd saying "I can't breathe" while he was in the back of a police car while no one was touching him. The riots stopped almost instantly after that video came out. Suddenly people understood why Chauvin didn't believe Floyd when he said that he couldn't breathe. Suddenly people realized that maybe he didn't die entirely from the knee. So why did Ellison choose to keep that a secret while the country was being torn apart?  

I don't think that all Dem voters are evil, a lot of them (maybe even the majority) are just sucked in, but I'm 100% certain that their leaders are. 

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Conservatives’ long and documented history of demonizing, stigmatizing and condemning Islam is well documented. You’re trying to limit the scope of the evidence for 20 years of anti-Muslim baiting to a direct quote of an elected official saying the words “un-Canadian” because otherwise the muslim-bashing is so easy to find.  If you are trying to suggest that there has not been anti-muslim rhetoric from the right across the western world since 9/11 you are living in an alternate reality. 
 

Not all of the links I provided were opinion pieces bit of course since demonization of Islam is an opinion, naturally the response will also be an opinion  

Here’s another one for you:  

 

Conservative party leadership advisor helped create anti-Islam organization

A senior member of Andrew Scheer’s leadership team helped create an anti-Islam organization during his campaign to lead the Conservative Party. Now, that organization is holding events to protest anti-Islamophobia Motion 103 and is bringing together Canada’s anti-Islam pundits and anti-Muslim groups.

Georganne Burke, the Scheer campaign’s Outreach Chair, was involved in the founding of Canadian Citizens for Charter Rights and Freedoms (C3RF). The group warns that the Liberal government is criminalizing criticism of Islam and opening the door for a Sharia (Islamic) takeover of Canadian law. C3RF plans to hold events across the country to advocate against M103 and the Trudeau government.

Georganne Burke is one of at least three senior members of Scheer’s campaign team that have now been linked to the so-called alt-right or anti-Islam groups. Scheer’s Campaign Manager, Hamish Marshall, was a director of Rebel Media, an alt-right media outlet that pushes narratives of white genocide and hosts prominent alt-right figures, and worked out of the Rebel offices during the campaign. He has been named as a campaign chair for the 2019 general election.

Marshall did not respond to interview requests sent to his email address at the Torch Agency, the public affairs and communications firm he leads. The Conservative Party now led by Scheer did not respond to interview requests.

‘EXPERIENCED’ ORGANIZER

The Digital Director for the Scheer campaign, Stephen Taylor, is linked to the alt-right metacanada subreddit. Last year, for example, he posted a comment to provide additional information to members of the subreddit who were e-mailing complaints to the CBC ombudsman. However, he says that it has been awhile since he participated in the subreddit, that he wasn’t fully aware of the increasingly alt-right nature of the subreddit, and that he doesn’t want anything to do with the alt-right. He says he doesn’t have any particular plans to engage with the subreddit in the future, and declined to comment on whether he has a current role with the Conservative Party of Canada.

“Commenting is not involvement,” Georganne Burke, Conservative strategist

Burke invited the first group of members to the C3RF Facebook page (including one of the group’s current administrators) and one of her posts indicates she held a leadership or advisory role while she was working on Scheer’s leadership campaign. In March, the group was preparing a press release to distribute to MPs. “We need to select a media contact,” writes Burke. “Not me. One person who is familiar with working with the media and can manage the press kit and media materials.”

“Some of us reached out to Georganne in the beginning, around spring time, because of her experience,” said Irving Weisdorf, an organizer with C3RF who has been involved since its inception. He’s also the founder of the pro-Israel advocacy organization Mozuud, which has partnered with C3RF on occasion.

Burke is Senior Vice President of the Pathway Group, which is in the business of government relations and providing services for political campaigns, and she has over 10 years of experience as a political operative for the Conservative Party of Canada. She’s a big fan of Donald Trump, according to social media posts and an October 2016 interview with CBC.

“This is what Georganne does you know, and we wanted her advice on how motions work,” Weisdorf noted. Burke’s involvement with C3RF eventually tapered off due to her commitment to the Scheer leadership campaign, he said.

Burke says she “[has] not been involved with C3RF since a couple of weeks after they formed.” She continues to post in the group, but says that “commenting is not involvement,” and declined to comment further.

ANTI-ISLAM INDUSTRY

Burke was also a member of several extreme anti-Muslim groups on Facebook, but says she was only in those groups for information purposes. Burke left at least two of these groups following a story by Anti-Racist Canada which named her as a member of groups like the Worldwide Coalition Against Islam, a group which critics say is anti-Muslim and anti-Semitic. Burke hasn’t posted any explicitly anti-Muslim comments on the C3RF Facebook Page, according to a search of posts in the group.

Scheer has tried to distance himself from the alt-right Rebel Media, and says his party is welcoming to Muslims. The anti-Islam organization co-founded by Burke, however, is connected to the American Islamophobia industry, and anti-Islam figures in Canada.

The anti-Islam industry in the United States and Canada is comprised of dozens of individual pundits, think tanks, and media outlets that host events together and amplify each other’s voices. Some organizations are more careful in their criticism of Islam than others, but they tend to view Islam and the Muslim community as a monolithic entity with a dangerous anti-Western agenda.

On September 10, C3RF held an anti-M103 conference in Toronto which brought together a number of speakers and organizations from the anti-Islam industry.

C3RF has worked with ACT! For Canada (the Canadian branch of ACT! For America) and the Washington DC-based Center for Security Policy, both of which are part of the Islamophobia industry in the United States, according Fear, Inc., a report published by the Center for American Progress.

According to the report, the Center for Security Policy is a “key source of information for the Islamophobia network.” Clare Lopez, CSP’s VP for Research and Analysis, was the keynote speaker at C3RF’s conference, which ACT! For Canada was also a co-partner for, along with conservative think-tank The Mackenzie Institute and the pro-Israel Hasbara Fellowships.

ACT! For Canada has shared articles in support of PEGIDA – an anti-Muslim group in Europe with a Canadian chapter – and frequently links to Robert Spencer and his website, Jihad Watch. Dr. Gad Saad, another C3RF speaker at the September conference, has also hosted Spencer on his Youtube channel. The Southern Poverty Law Centre describes Spencer as an “anti-Muslim propagandist.”

Several members of the C3RF Facebook Page are also members of anti-Muslim groups on Facebook, including the Storm Alliance, an offshoot of the Soldiers of Odin, Blood and Honour, a violent neo-Nazi group, and the III%ers, an armed militia group. C3RF’s Facebook group promoted the September 30 day of action organized by the Storm Alliance and other far right groups to protest the Liberal Party’s immigration policies.

Moreover, the C3RF Calgary Satellite Coordinator is Stephen Garvey, President of the National Advancement Party (NAP) and member of the Worldwide Coalition Against Islam, a white supremacist group. The Jewish Defence League, which has acted as security for several anti-Muslim demonstrations, also provided security for C3RF’s September 10 conference.

‘AGGRESSIVE AND INTOLERANT’

Speakers at the event characterized M-103 as a threat to free speech supported by Muslim extremists whose ultimate goal is to criminalize criticism of Islam.

“The increase in political Islam we’re seeing all across the world is perhaps the biggest threat to Canada,” said Anthony Furey, a Toronto Sun columnist who spoke at the conference. Furey says that the committee hearings on Systemic Racism and Religious Discrimination sparked by M103 can “lead to recommendations” that might suggest outlawing criticisms of Islam.

Mississauga-Erin Mills MP Iqra Khalid tabled private member’s motion M-103 calling on the federal government to eliminate “Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination” in December. The controversial motion has triggered opposition from across the country from people who say it could threaten free speech or usher in shariah law in Canada.

Another Toronto Sun columnist, Sue-Ann Levy, took it one step further by suggesting that liberal centrists and Islamist extremists have a broad overlap in interest. “I got in trouble for saying that Barack Obama has ties to radical Islamic ideology,” she said. “There’s no question in my mind that he does, and I also think that he’s a Muslim.”

Speakers such as Benjamin Dichter, founder of LGBTory, also suggested that an overly liberal and politically correct culture is helping to open the door for radical Islamists to take over Canadian society.

“Some Western liberal leaders are stopping people from asking a very important question,” said Dichter, “the question of whether a more Islamic Canada will become more tolerant, or more aggressive and intolerant of anything other than itself?”

Talking points shared by C3RF, its speakers and partner organizations are almost identical to the positions of extreme anti-Muslim groups and the so-called alt-right. They broadly warn of an unspecified mass of Muslims in the West who want Sharia law and an “Islamic theocracy.”

“The principles and freedoms that undergird both constitutions in the United States and in Canada are Judeo-Christian based,” said keynote speaker Clare Lopez. “Islam doesn’t have such freedoms, such as the freedom of speech; it has the ‘law of slander,’ which it defines as anything that a Muslim dislikes.”

The C3RF’s brochure warns of Muslims who “want to implement at least some aspects of Sharia law,” and who are either using or partnering with Iqra Khalid to implement the “normalization of Sharia law as a respectable form of multicultural expression.”

They’re also broadly critical of Canada’s immigration and refugee policies. In their minds, Islam and the West are in conflict, both abroad and here in Canada, and they are fighting for Western, Judeo-Christian values.

One of C3RF’s partner organizations, ACT! For Canada, was recently denied space at an Ottawa library to host a screening of Killing Europe, an Islamophobic video. The video screening went ahead last Sunday, hosted by the Jewish Defense League at the Toronto Zionist Centre.

Burke had also planned a “Rally to Turn Khadr Settlement Over To Speer and Morris Families” in late July, which was cancelled after it was reported that over half the people who RSVPd on Facebook were connected with anti-Muslim groups and pages.
 

https://www.vice.com/en/article/qvzznq/conservative-party-leadership-advisor-helped-create-anti-islam-organization

Did you think that doubling down on lying about what you said would make it better?

 Are you admitting what you said was a lie then?  Conservatives have NEVER said muslims are uncanadian have they.  and you'd like to talk about something else?

The CPC has a HUGE number of muslims and sikhs in its ranks.  Sorry kiddo  - but posting opinion pieces from partisan mags changes nothing.

 

Edited June 18, 2023 by CdnFox

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

Yes, Party Man or Woman are you reading?

This "Chud" is learning language and so did I and so many more.

Sugar is almost over, even your followers have IQ and move on, media lobying scum.

Good job @WestCanMan

Did you stop using Grammarly? Your low IQ and drunkenness are more evident than usual.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, Contrarian said:

No.

Is the fact that you improved, is good, the rest save it for your sport fans.

You must have missed a payment: those are all English words but they don't make any sense in that order. 

In Contrarianese/whiskybabble that means "Payment missed you probably did. Those English words be but making not sense for fans which likes music."

[BeaverFever]

10 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Did you think that doubling down on lying about what you said would make it better?

 Are you admitting what you said was a lie then?  Conservatives have NEVER said muslims are uncanadian have they.  and you'd like to talk about something else?

The CPC has a HUGE number of muslims and sikhs in its ranks.  Sorry kiddo  - but posting opinion pieces from partisan mags changes nothing.

 

I wonder how many of those muslims support the “barbaric cultural practices” snitch line conservatives promised to implement. So far the Muslim community has not supported CPC at the ballot box what with the conservative noise machine’s long track record of screaming about “creeping sharia” and islamist terrorism and opposing Trudeau accepting Muslim refugees from Syria

When the conservatives were at their anti-muslim peak and thrown out of office in 2015, 60% of the Muslim vote went to Liberals and fewer than 10% went to CPC with their snitch line and niqab-citizenship ban.  So your hope of a muslim wave for CPC sounds more aspirational than factual 

But for your continued reading enjoyment here’s one of many right-wing editorials  freaking out about liberals bill m-103 that simply condemned islamaphobia

 

Stop normalizing Sharia law in Canada
 

Leftist elites in Canada have launched a campaign to normalize Sharia law – the illiberal and often barbaric set of laws enforced in Islamic dictatorships.

In Ottawa, the Trudeau government is in the middle of what feels like a show-trial designed to make “Islamophobia” illegal – a term the government itself has failed to define.

…More than just Orwellian, these official suggestions are reminiscent of theocratic tyranny. That’s not Canadian law. That’s Sharia law.

https://torontosun.com/2017/09/25/stop-normalizing-sharia-law-in-canada/wcm/e9de51b5-8aef-4a11-a1eb-79a87b570930/amp/

 

By the way M-103 passed and still no Sharia law despite conservative claims 

 

MPs pass M-103 Thursday even as new poll says most Canadians would vote down anti-Islamophobia motion

Older, less educated and Conservative voters would spike the anti-Islamophobia motion put forward by Liberal Iqra Khalid a new poll says.

Published Mar 23, 2017  •  Last updated Mar 23, 2017  •  4 minute read

Join the conversation 

OTTAWA – The House of Commons voted Thursday afternoon to condemn “Islamophobia and all forms of systemic racism and religious discrimination” but the vote for the controversial M-103 was not unanimous.

Liberals, New Democrats, and Green Party MP Elizabeth May were in favour; most Conservative and all Bloc Quebecois MPs were opposed.

https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/mps-certain-to-pass-m-103-thursday-but-new-poll-says-canadians-would-vote-down-anti-islamophobia-motion
 

 

[BeaverFever]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If you believe the Justin Trudeau/Joe Biden/CNN/CTV narrative about conservatives, i.e. we're all scheming racists who want to beat up our wives and a few 'fags', that makes perfect sense, but FYI that's a complete joke.

 

Nobody believes that.  But a lot of conservatives would consider those people to be the lesser evil compared to the “fags” and would rather side with them  than side with the “fags.” And you only need to look at the makeup of any Trump rally to confirm that  

 

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

post-viability abortions of healthy babies

Doesn’t happen 

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

college students are too dumb to understand that they'll eventually have to pay back their student loans

Nobody believes that 

 

 

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Fact: pretty much every jihadist in Canada will vote for Justin Trudeau,

Made up nonsense and not a fact 

 

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Nothing does more damage to the African American community than the narrative that "all crackas, teachers, pigs, HR personnel and judges hate black people, most of them want to kill you. Look at Trayvon - killed for getting Skittles.

False that acknowledging systemic racism is more harmful to black peoples than denying it exists 

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You have to become a basketball player, a rapper or a gang-banger if you want to succeed!"

This claim of yours is not just a lie but  opposite-of-reality. Nobody says that, they say the exact opposite 

 

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

If you love someone who's black then you'll tell them the exact opposite of what the Dems are saying. If you don't believe me then think about the life your kids will have if you manage to convince them that no one will hire them if they get an education. 

False and more opposite-of-reality nonsense. Literally nobody says that  to black people. In fact Republican policies attempt to deprive black people of education and Republicans call liberal efforts to make education nor accessible to black peoples anti-white racism  That’s not loving black people  

 

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Dems celebrating the destruction of communities

Another False claim, nobody did that  

 

13 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Doesn't it sem like the Dems want to incite racial violence and hatred? (Dem AG) Keith Ellison sat on a video showing G Floyd saying "I can't breathe" while he was in the back of a police car while no one was touching him. The riots stopped almost instantly after that video came out. Suddenly people understood why Chauvin didn't believe Floyd when he said that he couldn't breathe. Suddenly people realized that maybe he didn't die entirely from the knee. So why did Ellison choose to keep that a secret while the country was being torn apart?  

 

False that the riots stopped as a result of that video and false the the video was relevant to anything or exonerated Chauvin. Chauvin was convicted of second-degree unintentional murder, third-degree murder and second-degree manslaughter and later pled guilty to to federal charges of violating Floyd's civil rights by using unreasonable force and charges specifically mention he ignored Floyd's medical condition. 
 

But back to the topic at hand you will need to show me how any of your posts resemble anything that Jesus would say or do. I hardly think Jesus would side with Chauvin or suggest that Trayvon got what he deserved 

[Deluge]

On 6/16/2023 at 8:38 AM, CdnFox said:

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/the-progressive-left-discards-muslims-as-un-canadian

The demographic profile of the two groups couldn’t have been more starkly distinct. On the front lines of the anti gender ideology protests were people of colour and devout Muslims, as well as Christians, facing off against mostly masked old stock white Canadians leading the counter protesters.

The progressive left which immediately judges any cause they disagree with as being “far right,” because it might constitute mainly white Canadians, were here mostly white, facing protesters against the trans agenda who were far more diverse than they were, almost representing a cross section of Canada. The cognitive dissonance was palpable.

 

The ideology of the left tries to bend reality to justify it's numerous and conflicting points so much that It was inevitable that eventually it would bend around completely and bite it's own ass.

That day has come.

Good. I knew the enlightened Left would turn its ugly head on muslims. I'm curious to see how that plays out.