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Seriously, California is clearly the DUMBEST state in the union for having elected this RETARD Newsome.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/newsom-threatens-desantis-kidnapping-charges-migrant-flights-sacramento

Newsom threatens DeSantis with 'kidnapping charges' over migrant flights to Sacramento

Newsom cited California kidnapping laws in a tweet sent Monday that called the Florida governor and 2024 GOP presidential candidate a "small, pathetic man." 

"This isn't Martha's Vineyard. Kidnapping charges?" Newsom tweeted, referencing Florida's migrant relocation initiative. DeSantis drew national headlines last year when the state of Florida flew a group of South American migrants from Texas to the liberal enclave of Martha’s Vineyard, Massachusetts, which had touted broad support for sanctuary policies.

More than a dozen migrants were transported from Texas to New Mexico before being flown to Sacramento and left on the doorstep of a local church Friday "without any advance warning," Newsom said over the weekend.

On Monday, a plane carrying 20 more migrants arrived in Sacramento. California Department of Justice officials said both groups were flown by the same contractor and were carrying documents linking the state of Florida to their relocation, the Los Angeles Times reported. 

"My Administration is also working with the California Department of Justice to investigate the circumstances around who paid for the group’s travel and whether the individuals orchestrating this trip misled anyone with false promises or have violated any criminal laws, including kidnapping," Newsom said.

First of all, Retard Newsome apparently hasn't even read his own state's statutes on kidnapping.

https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/defense/penal-code/207/

207. (a) Every person who forcibly, or by any other means of instilling fear, steals or takes, or holds, detains, or arrests any person in this state, and carries the person into another country, state, or county, or into another part of the same county, is guilty of kidnapping.

(b) Every person, who for the purpose of committing any act defined in Section 288, hires, persuades, entices, decoys, or seduces by false promises, misrepresentations, or the like, any child under the age of 14 years to go out of this country, state, or county, or into another part of the same county, is guilty of kidnapping.

(c) Every person who forcibly, or by any other means of instilling fear, takes or holds, detains, or arrests any person, with a design to take the person out of this state, without having established a claim, according to the laws of the United States, or of this state, or who hires, persuades, entices, decoys, or seduces by false promises, misrepresentations, or the like, any person to go out of this state, or to be taken or removed therefrom, for the purpose and with the intent to sell that person into slavery or involuntary servitude, or otherwise to employ that person for his or her own use, or to the use of another, without the free will and consent of that persuaded person, is guilty of kidnapping.

Force? Not according to the facts.

This relocation of those animals is totally voluntary.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/florida-confirms-role-migrant-flights-sacramento-desantis-silent-despite-newsom-criticism

In a statement to Fox News Digital Tuesday, Amelia Johnson, a spokeswoman for the Florida Division of Emergency Management, said migrants flown by private jet went voluntarily. 

"As you can see from this video, Florida's voluntary relocation is precisely that – voluntary," she said. "Through verbal and written consent, these volunteers indicated they wanted to go to California. A contractor was present and ensured they made it safely to a 3rd-party NGO. The specific NGO, Catholic Charities, is used and funded by the federal government." 

"From left-leaning mayors in El Paso, Texas, and Denver, Colorado, the relocation of those illegally crossing the United States border is not new. But suddenly, when Florida sends illegal aliens to a sanctuary city, it's false imprisonment and kidnapping," the spokeswoman wrote. 

 

Excuse me, boys and girls but getting written and verbal consent to be transported does NOT rise to the level of kidnapping.
 
California is a SANCTUARY STATE. Florida is not. We don't want those animals here. We SHOULD be flying them back to their native countries, or at least to the side of the border from which they ILLEGALLY came. But since socialist Nazi states like California want to wag its fingers at the rest of the world, THEY CAN HAVE OUR TRASH.
And Retard Newsome has discovered his big mouth has backfired.
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Honestly bud, using terms like 'nazi' weakens your otherwise strong argument. Don't be the Americana Antifa of the right :)   THey're a far left state sure, but nazi is a bridge too far.

Having said that - the underlying point is perfectly valid. It's fine and dandy for these states to claim they're "sanctuary" and don't want to stop the immigrants but when they have to pay to care for them.... uh oh.

The problem is that the states use population to calculate certain political respresentation - not 'citizens', but total population. So cali and a few others don't mind having a bit of an inflated population some times. 

But right now that's lead to real problems and people are fleeing the state, and taking their tax dollars with them. Cali is hurting badly - and now they can't afford to pay for these people and they're worried more of them will make the situation worse.

The left is ALL about hypocrisy.

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17 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Honestly bud, using terms like 'nazi' weakens your otherwise strong argument. Don't be the Americana Antifa of the right :)   THey're a far left state sure, but nazi is a bridge too far.

Having said that - the underlying point is perfectly valid. It's fine and dandy for these states to claim they're "sanctuary" and don't want to stop the immigrants but when they have to pay to care for them.... uh oh.

The problem is that the states use population to calculate certain political respresentation - not 'citizens', but total population. So cali and a few others don't mind having a bit of an inflated population some times. 

But right now that's lead to real problems and people are fleeing the state, and taking their tax dollars with them. Cali is hurting badly - and now they can't afford to pay for these people and they're worried more of them will make the situation worse.

The left is ALL about hypocrisy.

The use of the term "Nazi" is strategic. (Not just an accurate description of liberalism today). Establish that liberals are Nazis up front (which is accurate) or they'll lose an argument and call the winner a Nazi. I head off that idi0tic tactic with facts. The only thing that makes an argument weak is the lack of facts. My arguments are facts.

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9 hours ago, reason10 said:

The use of the term "Nazi" is strategic. (Not just an accurate description of liberalism today). Establish that liberals are Nazis up front (which is accurate) or they'll lose an argument and call the winner a Nazi. I head off that idi0tic tactic with facts. The only thing that makes an argument weak is the lack of facts. My arguments are facts.

Meh - avoid 'strategic' and just stick with the facts. Honestly they look worse for calling you one later, there's no point in trying to avoid it.

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2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

 

There's a lot more retired people in florida.  So that's to be expected

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/median-age-by-state

 

 
   
   

I thought retired Boomers had all the money.

 

BC where so many Albertans retire has the second highest per capita GDP in Canada.

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1 hour ago, Aristides said:

I thought retired Boomers had all the money.

That's arguably true - but it doesn't show up on gdp.  GDP is how much economic activity happened, not how much people have left over from previous activity.  A population with more retired people should always have a lower gdp.

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

BC where so many Albertans retire has the second highest per capita GDP in Canada.

Sure -based on home sales.  Those prices are through the roof and all add to gdp.  BC has some of the highest real estate prices in the country but more importantly the highest growth in real estate. That's how we wind up getting all those albertan's money :) 

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19 hours ago, Aristides said:

Per capita GDP by state, 2022. California #4. Florida #39. Looks like California has a pretty strong middle class.

 

Per Capita GDP by State.

This is your argument?

Bah, ha, ha, haaa...

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

That's arguably true - but it doesn't show up on gdp.  GDP is how much economic activity happened, not how much people have left over from previous activity.  A population with more retired people should always have a lower gdp.

Sure -based on home sales.  Those prices are through the roof and all add to gdp.  BC has some of the highest real estate prices in the country but more importantly the highest growth in real estate. That's how we wind up getting all those albertan's money :) 

BC...Alberta's playground.

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24 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

BC...Alberta's playground.

Specifically alberta's RETIREMENT playground. For many many years bc is the one province in Canada where more people leave alberta and move to than the other way around, and it's largely driven by retirement.  Who wants to live out their elder years in 6 feet of snow when you can move to the island and still be growing flowers in decemeber.

You know what they say - you know it's spring in vancouver when you can see the flowers blooming. You know it's spring in Calgary when you can see the sidewalk :)

And those people can afford nice homes. So every year our home prices shoot up about 15-20 percent and it has a whopping huge effect on our gdp.

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Specifically alberta's RETIREMENT playground. For many many years bc is the one province in Canada where more people leave alberta and move to than the other way around, and it's largely driven by retirement.  Who wants to live out their elder years in 6 feet of snow when you can move to the island and still be growing flowers in decemeber.

You know what they say - you know it's spring in vancouver when you can see the flowers blooming. You know it's spring in Calgary when you can see the sidewalk :)

And those people can afford nice homes. So every year our home prices shoot up about 15-20 percent and it has a whopping huge effect on our gdp.

All likely true.

I grew up in Cowtown...for the most part. As kids, my parents took us to Skawhaw beach in Penticton every summer. The beach would be packed with Albertains. Many of our childhood friends would be there. I learned to swim and waterski there.

IMO, the Okanagan valley is the nicest place in Canada.

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28 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

All likely true.

I grew up in Cowtown...for the most part. As kids, my parents took us to Skawhaw beach in Penticton every summer. The beach would be packed with Albertains. Many of our childhood friends would be there. I learned to swim and waterski there

A common story - and in the 80's there was a great exodus  from aberta as starving young familes fled the damage done by the NEP and made new homes in BC, so a lot of albertans still have family and ties to places in bc.  I'm not sure there's two provinces in Canada with more of a 'crossover' population between them.

30 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

IMO, the Okanagan valley is the nicest place in Canada.

Arguably true in years gone by, but the last few summers and "climate change' have created some challenges. The extra heat and wildfires have made it less of a perfect destination than it used to be. Hopefully the weather will smarten up but it looks like this year will be bad.

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7 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

A common story - and in the 80's there was a great exodus  from aberta as starving young familes fled the damage done by the NEP and made new homes in BC, so a lot of albertans still have family and ties to places in bc.  I'm not sure there's two provinces in Canada with more of a 'crossover' population between them.

Arguably true in years gone by, but the last few summers and "climate change' have created some challenges. The extra heat and wildfires have made it less of a perfect destination than it used to be. Hopefully the weather will smarten up but it looks like this year will be bad.

I took at hitch-hiking trip out to the island after graduating high school. spent a week in Nanaimo and Campbell River. Very nice places with fields full of these strange mushrooms... ;)

There's a small island between Campbell River and the mainland called Quadra. We took a ferry there and wound up camping on the beach...which the local park ranger hated...along with the kids our age whose parents had been US draft dodgers. Neat place. going there and back, the whales swim right up to the boat. At night, you can hear them come up for air from the beach on Quadra. It was a fantastic time and really a nice place.

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2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

I took at hitch-hiking trip out to the island after graduating high school. spent a week in Nanaimo and Campbell River. Very nice places with fields full of these strange mushrooms... ;)

There's a small island between Campbell River and the mainland called Quadra. We took a ferry there and wound up camping on the beach...which the local park ranger hated...along with the kids our age whose parents had been US draft dodgers. Neat place. going there and back, the whales swim right up to the boat. At night, you can hear them come up for air from the beach on Quadra. It was a fantastic time and really a nice place.

We boated a lot when i was a kid, spent much time on quadra and all the gulf islands.

The southern part of bc has a lot of fantastic places for people with big retirement pensions who never want to see snow in any significant amounts again to live.

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3 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

We boated a lot when i was a kid, spent much time on quadra and all the gulf islands.

The southern part of bc has a lot of fantastic places for people with big retirement pensions who never want to see snow in any significant amounts again to live.

LOL...I wish. But alas...we had our family here in Toronto and my high-strung Euro-wife won't leave for retirement. I'll have to satisfy myself with the lakes around here...

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Aside from the Atlantic provinces, BC has the second highest median age in the country but the second highest per capita GDP after Alberta. Property values have a lot to do with it but if all those rich old people moving in raises BC's GDP, why doesn't it do the same for Florida? That was my point.

2 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

LOL...I wish. But alas...we had our family here in Toronto and my high-strung Euro-wife won't leave for retirement. I'll have to satisfy myself with the lakes around here...

Toronto home prices aren't much different from Vancouver or Victoria. 

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9 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Aside from the Atlantic provinces, BC has the second highest median age in the country but the second highest per capita GDP after Alberta. Property values have a lot to do with it but if all those rich old people moving in raises BC's GDP, why doesn't it do the same for Florida? That was my point.

Toronto home prices aren't much different from Vancouver or Victoria. 

And even though I don't like the situation...at least I was wise enough to collect a few. Now...my retirement funding is secure. You?

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On 6/8/2023 at 8:21 PM, CdnFox said:

Meh - avoid 'strategic' and just stick with the facts. Honestly they look worse for calling you one later, there's no point in trying to avoid it.

The facts are pretty consistent. Liberals and NAZIS embrace the IDENTICAL ideology and tactics. They are a mirror image.

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15 minutes ago, reason10 said:

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He's definitely a Democrat.

Well some of that is inaccurate. Or at least widly exaggerated :)

 But sure - there are similarities.

Hitler was essentially a market socialist. He believed in capitalism but believed it should be very very strictly controlled and directed by the gov't and that the gov't should own a good portion of it. You know - for the people :)  Democrats tend to believe in more restrictions on the market than Conservatives but not to the extent the nazi's did. So .. similiar, but not the same.

Some of the social programs are very similar, sure, but the common theme there is the socialistic model, not the nazi one.

And as far as i know the democrats haven't' "killed everyone who oppose them " :)  

So there are similarities. Any two socialistic parties are going to have similarities.  But they're not the same.

 

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