August1991 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Post your predictions here. They must add up to 308. Here are my projections: Total 308 BQ 61 CPC 113 Lib 102 NDP 32 ==== BC 36 CPC 24 Lib 3 NDP 9 Alta 28 CPC 28 Sask 14 CPC 11 Lib 1 NDP 2 Man 14 CPC 7 Lib 3 NDP 4 ------ Ontario 106 CPC 32 Lib 62 NDP 12 of which: Tor 22 Lib 19 NDP 3 905 32 CPC 7 Lib 23 NDP 2 Ont North 10 CPC 1 Lib 5 NDP 4 Ont East 17 CPC 11 Lib 6 Ont SW 22 CPC 10 Lib 9 NDP 3 Simcoe 3 CPC 3 ----- Quebec 75 BQ 61 Lib 14 NB 10 CPC 6 Lib 3 NDP 1 NS 11 CPC 3 NDP 3 Lib 5 PEI 4 Lib 4 Nfld 7 CPC 2 Lib 5 Yk/NWT 3 Lib 2 NDP 1 ----- I think I'm being too generous to the Tories and NDP, and too stingy with the Liberals. Maybe I'll revise that prediction. Quote
August1991 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Posted December 6, 2005 Vancouver King: I'll play this silly game.CPC 110 Liberal 108 Bloc 62 NDP 28 Quote
tml12 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Post your predictions here. They must add up to 308. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If an election were held tomorrow, here are my predictions: NEWFOUNDLAND AND LABRADOR: Liberal: 5 Conservative: 2 PEI: Liberal: 4 NOVA SCOTIA: Liberal: 5 NDP: 3 Conservatives: 3 NEW BRUNSWICK: Liberal: 7 NDP: 1 Conservative: 2 QUEBEC: Bloc: 58 Liberals: 17 ONTARIO: Liberal: 63 Conservatives: 33 NDP: 10 MANITOBA: Conservatives: 8 NDP:4 Liberals: 2 SASKATCHEWAN: Conservatives: 13 Liberals: 1 ALBERTA: Conservatives: 28 BC: Conservatives: 17 Liberals: 12 NDP: 7 YUKON/NW TERRITORIES/NUNAVUT: Liberal: 3 LIBERAL PARTY: 119 CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 106 BLOC: 058 NDP: 025 Those should match... REMEMBER I will change this as the election carries on... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
August1991 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Posted December 6, 2005 LIBERAL PARTY: 119CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 106 BLOC: 058 NDP: 025 Those should match... REMEMBER I will change this as the election carries on... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Sensible predictions, IMV. Quote
Kiraly Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Too early for me to predict... ...alot will depend on the upcoming campaign. Quote
tml12 Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 Too early for me to predict......alot will depend on the upcoming campaign. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Even with the poll tied 31-31 I have to stay with my prediction for NOW. With the country in the precarious minority situation it is in now, many potential NDP voters will poll with the NDP NOW. Yet, if an election were held tomorrow they would switch to Liberal. With the poll tied or with a 2-3 point Conservative lead, this will still translate into a Liberal minority. Giving the NDP 25 seats was probably a bit generous. I think the Conservatives will make in roads in Ontario, but I still see nothing in Quebec or the territories. Landslide Annie may just get knocked off. With Harper this close, she just may. The Liberals will retain their stronghold on the Maritimes and make inroads in BC. Harper would need a consistent 5-6 point lead in Part II (January) of the campaign for him to pull off a minority. Again, this is my POV... We will look forward to the debate... Quote "Those who stand for nothing fall for anything." -Alexander Hamilton
August1991 Posted December 6, 2005 Author Report Posted December 6, 2005 Even with the poll tied 31-31 I have to stay with my prediction for NOW.The SES rolling poll shows the Libs at 38 and the CPC at 30.Despite a very good Tory opening, hitting all the right notes, baby photos and so on, the Tories cannot break 30. I think that augurs badly for them. It certainly means that no one important is listening to all these Tory policy announcements. Voters are largely decided, or have decided to decide later. In any case, they're not listening to Harper. I think the Liberals are going to pull this off, and they may even get a majority. They are consistently polling in the upper 30s. ---- Something else too. I'm surprised at the poor poll results of the NDP. Quote
Biblio Bibuli Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 155 LIBERAL PARTY: 74 BLOC: 59 NDP: 20 I may need to fine tune it a little towards the end. Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Canuck E Stan Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 All these pollsers,all these polls taken are on decided voters.I heard the undecided may be as high as 43%.Anybody find anything about the Undecided segment? Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
Vancouver King Posted December 6, 2005 Report Posted December 6, 2005 All these pollsers,all these polls taken are on decided voters.I heard the undecided may be as high as 43%.Anybody find anything about the Undecided segment? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> No info on undecided other than I consider myself among them. Isn't conventional wisdom that undecided divide out exactly as decided do? BTW, my numbers will change too, probably after Vancouver debate #1. Also, so far every post on this thread predicts an increased number of seats for the Bloc & NDP. Hmmmmm...there's a pattern forming here. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
normanchateau Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 Isn't conventional wisdom that undecided divide out exactly as decided do? Yes that's been the pattern in the past but religious people believe in miracles. Quote
southerncomfort Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 155LIBERAL PARTY: 74 BLOC: 59 NDP: 20 I may need to fine tune it a little towards the end. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Wow, pretty optimistic wish I could agree but I'm thinking a liberal minority. Why cos the liberals are sitting back right now & on the defencive, waiting for the last couple of weeks then they'll hit hard with the American style attack ads etc. I would like to think Harper can keep up the momentum, we'll see. Quote
Slavik44 Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 Total: CPC: 102 Liberals: 123 NDP: 23 Bloc: 60 Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
shoop Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 SC, I agree those numbers are optimistic. I *hope* the Liberals try the strategy you are suggesting. The longer they wait the more likely Harper is to keep the momentum he has been building up so far. I have a feeling they are starting to crap their pants in the Liberal war room. Wow, pretty optimistic wish I could agree but I'm thinking a liberal minority. Why cos the liberals are sitting back right now & on the defencive, waiting for the last couple of weeks then they'll hit hard with the American style attack ads etc. I would like to think Harper can keep up the momentum, we'll see. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
normanchateau Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 155LIBERAL PARTY: 74 BLOC: 59 NDP: 20 I may need to fine tune it a little towards the end. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I stand to be corrected but it appears that if one looks at predictions on this website about a month before the 2004 election, a disproportionate number were predicting a CPC victory. Judging by the poll presented on the mapleleaf web site, a higher percentage of people here plan to vote CPC (37%) and a lower percentage plan to vote Liberal (28%) than will do so in the general population. Could it be wishful thinking that makes people predict outcomes that are inconsistent with current polling data? Quote
sharkman Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 Something I read this morning posters, is that in Ontario the CPC is even with the Liberals in a DEC 1 Ipsos Reid poll. Can anyone find anything more recent on Ontario? That's actually pretty good news, the CPC is resonating with Ontarians. Quote
shoop Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 You are right, but four major polls have been released in the interim that show the Liberals leading Ontario. Here's the best link I have found for keeping track of the major polls. (btw, if anyone has found a better one please share.) http://predictor.hillandknowlton.ca/ Something I read this morning posters, is that in Ontario the CPC is even with the Liberals in a DEC 1 Ipsos Reid poll. Can anyone find anything more recent on Ontario? That's actually pretty good news, the CPC is resonating with Ontarians. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
shoop Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 Probably. Normie, why don't you make a *non-hypocritical* prediction that you feel is consistent with current polling data? I stand to be corrected but it appears that if one looks at predictions on this website about a month before the 2004 election, a disproportionate number were predicting a CPC victory. Judging by the poll presented on the mapleleaf web site, a higher percentage of people here plan to vote CPC (37%) and a lower percentage plan to vote Liberal (28%) than will do so in the general population. Could it be wishful thinking that makes people predict outcomes that are inconsistent with current polling data? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
Biblio Bibuli Posted December 7, 2005 Report Posted December 7, 2005 Something I read this morning posters, is that in Ontario the CPC is even with the Liberals in a DEC 1 Ipsos Reid poll. Can anyone find anything more recent on Ontario? That's actually pretty good news, the CPC is resonating with Ontarians. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Those numbers should go up once Ontarians get a whiff of this powerful tidbit.: http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/sto...7e-50e5d849dc8b (con't) "Harper said he was prepared to send a strong signal to the 20-or-so foreign fishing nations that he'll take steps to push the existing boundaries of the Flemish Cap and the Grand Banks out to the continental shelf and unilaterally seize control of the waters if there is continued infringement of Canadian territory." Let's see what Mr. Dithers counters with. Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
August1991 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Report Posted December 18, 2005 I already put this on record in the December 5 Hill Times, so I might as well share it with you here (in a more exact form):Liberal: 126 Conservative: 105 Bloc Quebecois: 59 New Democrat: 18 My dismally unbudging forecast is perhaps most similar to that of George Stroumboulopoulos, who told the Times "I think the next House will look almost exactly like it did before." Crazy name, not-so-crazy guy! Colby CoshI think now that's a very good prediction. Note that the Libs/NDP will not have a majority. Quote
Biblio Bibuli Posted December 27, 2005 Report Posted December 27, 2005 Post your predictions here. So far only six posters have made a prediction on how many seats the CPC will end up with, and five of these are so ridiculously low it isn't even funny. Slavik44 ................ 102 Colby Cosh ............ 105 tml12 ..................... 106 Vancouver King ...... 110 August1991 ............ 113 Now if you were all to increase those numbers by at least a third before the end of this year, you won't have to endure ridicule at the start of the next one. Just trying to help. Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Biblio Bibuli Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 Post your predictions here. So far only six posters have made a prediction on how many seats the CPC will end up with, and five of these are so ridiculously low it isn't even funny. Slavik44 ................ 102 Colby Cosh ............ 105 tml12 ..................... 106 Vancouver King ...... 110 August1991 ............ 113 Now if you were all to increase those numbers by at least a third before the end of this year, you won't have to endure ridicule at the start of the next one. Just trying to help. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Colby Cosh's prediction will reach millions of people, so he's got a reason for going low. He doesn't want the CPCers to get complacent & lazy and not bother to get their asses to a voting station ... if they figure that Stephen is a slam-dunk and has it in the bag anyway. So I won't make fun of him after the election. Quote When a true Genius appears in the World, you may know him by this Sign, that the Dunces are all in confederacy against him. - Jonathan Swift GO IGGY GO!
Slavik44 Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 Post your predictions here. So far only six posters have made a prediction on how many seats the CPC will end up with, and five of these are so ridiculously low it isn't even funny. Slavik44 ................ 102 ................................ Now if you were all to increase those numbers by at least a third before the end of this year, you won't have to endure ridicule at the start of the next one. Just trying to help. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Well now hold on a second, my predictions are far from ridiculous and ridiculing me based on my predictions is a violation of board policy, so I would suggest your new years resolution include a change of heart. My predictions will of course change, I can't gurantee when they will change, but how about when the next batch of polls come out? from there I can better look at party momentum, regional differences, and comparisons to past elections...beyond that I can't make any promises of what my results will be, but I am glad you care, and just so you get that warm fuzzy feeling I promise that on the day of the election I will post my final predictions just for you. Quote The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals, one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. - Ayn Rand --------- http://www.politicalcompass.org/ Economic Left/Right: 4.75 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.54 Last taken: May 23, 2007
Canuck E Stan Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 Canuck E Stan's predictions: LIBERAL PARTY: 75 CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 141( including 1 from Quebec) BLOC: 62 NDP: 29 Independent 1(Manitoba) Quote "Any man under 30 who is not a liberal has no heart, and any man over 30 who is not a conservative has no brains." — Winston Churchill
shoop Posted December 28, 2005 Report Posted December 28, 2005 Stan, I think what you are predicitng is plausible if the campaign keeps going as it is. I have a feeling the Liberals' *hard-hitting* tv ads are going to go over like a lead balloon and get hammered in the press. Too bad I am currently living in Alberta. The Liberals aren't even pretending to try and win any seats other than Edmonton-Centre. I drove through the riding today and would give Laurie Hawn the decided edge on the sign war in that one. So my only chance to see those ads will be on the news. Canuck E Stan's predictions:LIBERAL PARTY: 75 CONSERVATIVE PARTY: 141( including 1 from Quebec) BLOC: 62 NDP: 29 Independent 1(Manitoba) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.