CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Agreed. I wonder how much time it would take to get directly involved... Well it depends on HOW involved. - spending some time with your riding association and such especially during candidate selection is not a lot, maybe 3 or 4 hours ish to have an impact during candidate. You usually only have to do that once every 4 years. Maybe an houror three a year to meet with or spend time with the riding or candidate to go over ideas. Policy conventions are about every two years - you can directly get involved and go there and vote and such if you want to represent yoru riding and that's obviously several days worth of time committment, but you can also just help craft poilcy to be voted on or discus what you'd like to see the vote be, and that's either several hours or a little less depending how involved you are. Election times of course can be many hours a day for weeks if you have that much time but a lot less if you don't want to - scruitineering is just for a day. It's kind of hard to say but at a guess i would say that if someone spent an average of 2 hours a month getting involved they'd have a significant impact and democracy would benefit greatly. That's 'average' of course - some months nothing some more. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: People don't want to think for themselves. Most prefer to be lead. Told what to do...what to think. The press and politicians know that. They count on it. And it works. Yeah. Sad but true. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: I personally blame the media for most of our evils. 3 hours ago, CdnFox said: If people didn't want to be lied to by the media, the media couldn't survive by lying. 51 minutes ago, Nationalist said: People don't want to think for themselves. Most prefer to be lead. Told what to do...what to think. It's funny how you guys go on about mental illness. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 1 hour ago, eyeball said: It's funny how you guys go on about mental illness. Like those who follow along blindly off the cliff Biden and the progs are frog marching you off of? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Like those who follow along blindly off the cliff Biden and the progs are frog marching you off of? No, those are just other figments of your imagination. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 14 minutes ago, eyeball said: No, those are just other figments of your imagination. Is the inflation, open border, surrender to common terrorists and endangering Europe fitments too? Pfft...ur rather dopey ain't ya. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 3 hours ago, eyeball said: It's funny how you guys go on about mental illness. I don't recall mentioning mental illness. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 10 hours ago, Nationalist said: Is the inflation, open border, surrender to common terrorists and endangering Europe fitments too? You've certainly embellished them with your figments, like ornaments. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You've certainly embellished them with your figments, like ornaments. Oh? Do tell. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 9 hours ago, CdnFox said: I don't recall mentioning mental illness. Your OP was certainly nuts. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 4 minutes ago, eyeball said: Your OP was certainly nuts. Arguably true of course, but we're still not discussing mental health. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Oh? Do tell. You guys can't talk about anything without injecting your MSM delusions into your ruminations. You're obsessed to the point of being nuts. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, CdnFox said: Arguably true of course, but we're still not discussing mental health. That's right you're ignoring like it doesn't exist. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 1 minute ago, eyeball said: You guys can't talk about anything without injecting your MSM delusions into your ruminations. You're obsessed to the point of being nuts. I see. So, 'Nothing to see here people. Just move on.' Is that it? Just ignore the sewer both Pixie-Dust and Biden have made of our nations? I got news for ya. Rolling over while our nation turns to Tweenkie shit is not an option. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 11 minutes ago, eyeball said: That's right you're ignoring like it doesn't exist. You can't complain about how we're discussing it in one breath and then complain that we never discuss it in the next C'mon dude - pick one and we can go from there and talk about it Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: I see. So, 'Nothing to see here people. Just move on.' Is that it? Just ignore the sewer both Pixie-Dust and Biden have made of our nations? I got news for ya. Rolling over while our nation turns to Tweenkie shit is not an option. What does this have to do with Man accused of fatally stabbing teen at Toronto subway station had lengthy criminal history: court documents. It has nothing to do with it all. You're simply not thinking straight. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 6 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You can't complain about how we're discussing it in one breath and then complain that we never discuss it in the next C'mon dude - pick one and we can go from there and talk about it Sure I can complain about the direction so many of you guys take when it comes to crime and mental illness. Thankfully we have a justice system that knows right from wrong. It's just too bad it can't compel our governments to do the right thing and make things safer for the mentally ill. That largely means consigning the bulk of conservative sensibilities on the topic to the landfill. Marginalizing mental illness even farther than it is at present is....nuts. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Nationalist Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, eyeball said: What does this have to do with Man accused of fatally stabbing teen at Toronto subway station had lengthy criminal history: court documents. It has nothing to do with it all. You're simply not thinking straight. How many times have Libbie indoctrinated judges set that animal free? The new Libbie mind is turning our society into a garbage dump. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 Oh it's mental illness now. You Tweenkies care nothing for victims. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Sure I can complain about the direction so many of you guys take when it comes to crime and mental illness. But if you do you can't complain we never take it in a direction 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Thankfully we have a justice system that knows right from wrong. It's just too bad it can't compel our governments to do the right thing and make things safer for the mentally ill. So.. letting them out on the street to wander around until they kill again is "right"? How? 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: That largely means consigning the bulk of conservative sensibilities on the topic to the landfill. Well it's true that the conservatives have been in power now for 7 years and things have only gotten worst. OH... wait.... 8 minutes ago, eyeball said: Marginalizing mental illness even farther than it is at present is....nuts. Letting mentally ill people who are excessively and repeatedly violent out on the streets to kill again is even MORE nuts. You seem to have compassion for violent people with mental heath issues. It's just a shame you don't have any for their dead victims. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 13 minutes ago, Nationalist said: How many times have Libbie indoctrinated judges set that animal free? We're talking about a human being. Quote The new Libbie mind is turning our society into a garbage dump. Why do olde tyme conservatives insist on being such sphincters when they frame the topic of mental illness? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 17 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Oh it's mental illness now. You Tweenkies care nothing for victims. Then why do you insist on not providing better care for the mentally ill? Is it because you're cheapskates who don't like the fact it'll cost billions? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Why do olde tyme conservatives insist on being such sphincters when they frame the topic of mental illness? You know that crime is a federal issue and health is a provincial one right? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
CdnFox Posted April 3, 2023 Author Report Posted April 3, 2023 Just now, eyeball said: Then why do you insist on not providing better care for the mentally ill? Is it because you're cheapskates who don't like the fact it'll cost billions? Well you'll have to ask the ndp gov't of bc - they're in charge of mental health in bc and have been for 7 years but have done nothing. You realize it's not a federal responsibility right? Harper btw actually tried to push several initiatives on mental health reform. it was a pet project of his. But - he can't tell the provinces what to do, You're complaining to the wrong party. Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
eyeball Posted April 3, 2023 Report Posted April 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, CdnFox said: So.. letting them out on the street to wander around until they kill again is "right"? How? It's not right but there's no where to send them because no one is willing to spend the money required to properly house and care for them. You seem quite willing to spend billions throwing them in jail but that's punishment not treatment and the SC has ruled out punishment for the same reason we don't throw people in jail for cancer. Their condition is not their fault. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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