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2 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Florida is not attacking higher education. That's a LIE.

Florida is preventing our SUPERIOR higher education from being attacked, (mostly by racists, queers,  child molesters, and communists.)

Unlike you, I posted EVIDENCE. You post NOTHING but ^these OPINIONS.

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Just now, robosmith said:

Here's a clue FOR YOU. College is NOT an employment training program and was NEVER meant to be one.

I understand your thinking on that, since you've never held a job in your life and expect taxpayers to cover your bills.

MEDICINE is a job, you retard. LAW is a job. ENGINEERING is a JOB. The more expensive universities could NEVER price gouge the public unless there was an expectation of six figure incomes.

The OCCUPY WALL STREET movement was created by a bunch of uneducated Sociology majors who were not immediately offered six figure salaries and blamed capitalism for this meanness.

College is NOT some lofty institution where people can act like Greeks and pursue knowledge independent of paying for it. Barak Obama didn't go to law school (allegedly) just to watch John Grisham movies all day long. He had a goal of screwing banks with ACORN, and he needed the degree his rich father could pay for.

Donald Trump didn't attend the finest business school in the world (Wharton School of Finance) just to play around with numbers and economics theories. He used that knowledge to build a ten billion dollar international real estate EMPIRE.

That's called EMPLOYMENT.

It's a JOB, something you, Meathead, know nothing about.

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5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

MAYBE if ^these LIES were true. But they're NOT.

Nobody is lying except the fake news rags that go after Fox.

I don't recall FOX using FORGED DOCUMENTS to try to influence a presidential election (like CBS did.) I don't recall FOX deliberately rigging trucks to blow up for a story like NBC did.

Your goose stepping side of the law are the ONLY liars here.

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Donald Trump Claims Ron Desantis Gets Off On Killing Old People In Wheelchairs

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Earlier this week, we learned that in his new memoir, The Courage to Be Free, Ron DeSantis has a number of very nice things to say about Donald Trump. Unfortunately for the governor of Florida, his would-be 2024 opponent has not returned the favor, and by “not returned the favor,” we mean Trump has decided to follow up his recent suggestion that a 20-something DeSantis groomed high school girls…by claiming the guy will send seniors to an early grave if elected president.

On Tuesday, Trump logged on to Truth Social and told his followers: “Great Poll numbers are springing forth for your favorite President, me, against Ron DeSanctus (& Biden). I guess people are finding out that he wanted to CUT SOCIAL SECURITY & RAISE THE MINIMUM AGE TO AT LEAST 70, at least 4 times. LIKEWISE WITH MEDICARE, WANTED BIG CUTS. HE IS A WHEELCHAIR OVER THE CLIFF KIND OF GUY, JUST LIKE HIS HERO, failed politician Paul Ryan, the FoxNews ratings destroyer who led Mitt Romney’s Presidential Campaign down the tubes. GLOBALIST’S ALL! WE WANT AMERICA FIRST!!!”

Trump isn’t right about a lot of things, but he is correct in his claim that former House Speaker Paul Ryan famously dreamed of gutting Medicare and Social Security, as well as Medicaid and other key aspects of the social safety net—which he once described as a “hammock that lulls able-bodied people into complacency and dependence.” Sadly for Ryan, not enough people in Congress wanted to commit political suicide, and he retired before he could get the job done.

As for DeSantis, the Florida governor has been less direct than Ryan about his lust for doing away with programs millions of people rely on (and in many cases, pay into). But it’s not hard to see where his head’s at, since he:

● Voted for a series of budget resolutions crafted by the conservative Republican Study Committee that would have voucherized Medicare for new beneficiaries, slowed Social Security cost-of-living increases, and raised the retirement age for both programs during his time in Congress;

● Received, according to The Washington Post, “a 0 percent rating from the Alliance for Retired Americans, an affiliate of the AFL-CIO,” and said during debt-limit negotiations in 2013 that Social Security and Medicare should be part of the negotiations;

● Commented the same year: “I think we need to restructure some of these entitlements”;

● Said in 2012: “I support what Ryan is trying to do in terms of reforming entitlements.”

And what of Trump’s position on all this? Well, he is currently painting himself as a defender of Medicare and Social Security and, according to Ryan, refused to pursue cuts to “entitlements” while in office because they weren’t popular. However, the ex-president apparently forgets that in 2019, he reportedly discussed gutting Medicare as a potential “second-term project.” Or that, in 2020, he was asked if such cuts would ever be on his “plate,” and responded, out loud: “At some point they will be.” 

 

Trump is going to destroy Dethantis, even though he agrees with Dethantis' plan to gut Medicare

Question is, will Ronny make him pay for that?

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20 minutes ago, reason10 said:

Nobody is lying except the fake news rags that go after Fox.

I don't recall FOX using FORGED DOCUMENTS to try to influence a presidential election (like CBS did.) I don't recall FOX deliberately rigging trucks to blow up for a story like NBC did.

Your goose stepping side of the law are the ONLY liars here.

You don't recall cause ^these are YOUR FANTASIES.

Florida Is Trying to Take Away the American Right to Speak Freely

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A homeowner gets angry at a county commission over a zoning dispute and writes a Facebook post accusing a local buildings official of being in the pocket of developers.

A right-wing broadcaster criticizing border policies accuses the secretary of homeland security of being a traitor.

A parent upset about the removal of a gay-themed book from library shelves goes to a school board meeting and calls the board chair a bigot and a homophobe.

All three are examples of Americans engaging in clamorous but perfectly legal speech about public figures that is broadly protected by the Constitution. The Supreme Court, in a case that dates back nearly 60 years, ruled that even if that speech might be damaging or include errors, it should generally be protected against claims of libel and slander. All three would lose that protection — and be subject to ruinous defamation lawsuits — under a bill that is moving through the Florida House and is based on longstanding goals of Gov. Ron DeSantis.

The bill represents a dangerous threat to free expression in the United States, not only for the news media, but for all Americans, whatever their political beliefs. There’s still time for Florida lawmakers to reject this crude pandering and ensure that their constituents retain the right to free speech.

“This isn’t just a press issue,” said Bobby Block, executive director of Florida’s First Amendment Foundation. “This is a death-to-public-discourse bill. Everyone, even conservatives, would have to second-guess themselves whenever they open their mouths to speak or sit in front of a keyboard.”

 

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3 hours ago, Mako said:

The Democrat elites HATE the spreading of misinformation and LIES.

We now KNOW that FOX LIES hosts KNEW they were spreading BULLSHIT and did it to help their bottom line.

In the age of Trump, that unfortunately has become NORMALIZED and ACCEPTED by the likes of you.

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On 3/11/2023 at 6:11 AM, Rebound said:

There’s no choice when the government makes it a crime for teachers to tell the truth to their students.  

Well, there's the teachers' truth and then there's the ACTUAL truth. DeSantis is right.

 

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33 minutes ago, impartialobserver said:

I find it interesting that politicos (those who comment on politics often) are such drama queens. Every news story is groundbreaking, earth shattering, apocalyptic. And yet in 2 or 3 days... this story will be proverbial back page news.

Hardly. Dethantis is just getting started and more extreme by the week.

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5 hours ago, robosmith said:

You're not supporting ANY point with right wing propaganda cites.

The Hunter Biden "laptop" is a right wing MANUFACTURED issue. AKA, BULLSHIT.

You poor deluded fool.

Follow the link to the NYT story. 

Here’s more evidence: 

https://nypost.com/2022/03/30/washington-post-admits-hunter-biden-laptop-is-real/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/cnn-msnbc-dismissed-hunter-bidens-laptop-as-russian-disinformation-until-liberal-narrative-was-deflated/ar-AAVUtgt

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21 minutes ago, Mako said:

The laptop is NOT EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIME, ESP NOT BY JOE. Hunter Biden DOES NOT WORK for the US government and never has.

You're the one who has been deluded by FOX LIES (your cite) that the laptop is anything but a DISTRACTION invented by the right wing to tar Joe. Just like Trump TRIED TO DO (and FAILED) before the election.

Maybe if Trump gets back in the WH, he can gin up another scandal about it. LMAO 

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2 hours ago, robosmith said:

The laptop is NOT EVIDENCE OF ANY CRIME, ESP NOT BY JOE. Hunter Biden DOES NOT WORK for the US government and never has.

You're the one who has been deluded by FOX LIES (your cite) that the laptop is anything but a DISTRACTION invented by the right wing to tar Joe. Just like Trump TRIED TO DO (and FAILED) before the election.

Maybe if Trump gets back in the WH, he can gin up another scandal about it. LMAO 

Is the Hunter Biden laptop genuine?

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7 minutes ago, Mako said:

Is the Hunter Biden laptop genuine?

You mean is all of the contents of the hard disk untampered with?

We have NO WAY of KNOWING.

What we know is, it's contents release was ILLEGAL under Delaware law, and the chain of the custody of that evidence IS UNKNOWN, since apparently it spent time in Rudy's hands. It could easily have been tampered with by Russian agents without leaving any trace of that.

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19 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You mean is all of the contents of the hard disk untampered with?

We have NO WAY of KNOWING.

What we know is, it's contents release was ILLEGAL under Delaware law, and the chain of the custody of that evidence IS UNKNOWN, since apparently it spent time in Rudy's hands. It could easily have been tampered with by Russian agents without leaving any trace of that.

What is your evidence?

Why do you suppose the NYT and the Washington Post have declared the laptop authentic?

Do you admit Biden family members received a lot of money from corrupt Chinese businessmen?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462

And let’s not forget: https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/hunter-biden-admits-infamous-laptop-is-his-in-plea-for-probe/

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10 minutes ago, Mako said:

What is your evidence?

Why do you suppose the NYT and the Washington Post have declared the laptop authentic?

Do you admit Biden family members received a lot of money from corrupt Chinese businessmen?

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/analysis-hunter-bidens-hard-drive-shows-firm-took-11-million-2013-2018-rcna29462

And let’s not forget: https://nypost.com/2023/02/01/hunter-biden-admits-infamous-laptop-is-his-in-plea-for-probe/

Does not matter if the laptop belonged to him. ILLEGAL to release the contents according to Delaware LAW because it is PRIVATE information.

And the UNKNOWN chain of custody means ANY EVIDENCE on it is SUSPECT by LOGIC. 

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Just now, robosmith said:

Does not matter if the laptop belonged to him. ILLEGAL to release the contents according to Delaware LAW because it is PRIVATE information.

And the UNKNOWN chain of custody means ANY EVIDENCE on it is SUSPECT by LOGIC. 

So you are saying you have no evidence the laptop was tampered with.

Did the laptop belong to Hunter Biden, yes or no?

Do you think MAYBE Biden relatives were enriched to influence Joe Biden? Do people usually dispense millions of dollars without expecting something in return?

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