85.7% of Covid Deaths in Canada Were Among the Multi-Vaxed from Aug to Sept of 2022. Jabbing 85% of the Population Didn't Reduce Deaths

[Goddess]

17 minutes ago, eyeball said:

With just one old guy and a handful of pys op dudes?

That's some amazing power and competence on display.

Let's start here:

Do the covid jabs prevent transmission and infection?  

Do you still believe it benefits children and young adults to get covid-jabbed?

There are hundreds of studies and datasets with the correct answers to those 2 questions.

Do you still ignore the science and just go with what the MSM says?

 

[Moonlight Graham]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Of course they're relevant. 

We shut down our economy because of the "high number of deaths and hospitalizations" in 2020. It was all the media talked about for 2 years. Then when deaths went up dramatically and hospitalizations tripled everything was open and the news didn't talk about covid at all. 

Shouldn't they have been even more freaked out when we got a "successful vaccine" and it wasn't working?

The number of vaccinated deaths in 2022 was higher than the total number of covid deaths in either of the previous covid years. 

Did vaccinated people have better health outcomes than non- vaccinated in 2022?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Goddess certainly implies that with her bingo comment.  Sure you might have a few doctors willing to go out on a limb for t he sake of being controversial but you people have set up an enormous hurdle of credibility with your notions the virus was created for the purposes of making a handful of people fabulously wealthy and powerful.

That's just straight up fu cking crazy. 

I never said that the virus was created to make powerful people wealthier, stupid. 

I just stated the facts and you put your own asinine spin on them.

The general theory behind Americans doing GoF research on viruses is so that they can see what they'd do if they did migrate to humans, and maybe to get out ahead of some type of treatment or cure or vaccine or whatever. 

As far as accusing anyone of maybe letting it out intentionally, I said that the Chinese gov't may have let it out because it targets old, obese people, and that sounds a lot like "Americans", or even Trump: the guy who was busy crowing about winning a trade war with China just before the breakout. I also said that the Chinese gov't wasn't exactly kind to 'excess babies' in the not too distant past, so I can't imagine that the deaths of octogenarians would be of any concern to them. 

 

The simple facts of the matter are:

1. The virus most likely came from a lab where Fauci funded GoF research, and he never disclosed that while he was busy pointing the finger elsewhere. FACT
2. The pseudovaccines were overhyped (the manufacturers say that claims were made of their vaccines that they didn't make themselves) and they underperformed quite drastically. FACT
3.  There was enormous pressure from the medical establishment (esteemed publications, CDC, colleges of P & S's, medical health authorities, etc) to put the emphasis on vaccines and to resist other forms of treatment,  and then our gov'ts and MSM followed suit. None of those things would be a problem if they were traditional vaccines that worked and no one was lying about their safety & efficacy and who needed the protection of vaccines, but all of the aforementioned groups lied, and they all lied a lot. There was a lot more lying than truth-telling. You know that now. And those are all just facts. They've all been discussed in far greater detail elsewhere in this thread, the trickle thread, and various other threads on this forum. 
4. Yes, there absolutely were cover-ups that we know of and have proven here, there were lies with massive implications, there was fear-mongering, truth-banning, and the persecution of people who told the truth or bucked the vax narrative, and all sorts of other nefarious activities. Those are all facts. BUT... I still never said that any of the above released the virus intentionally so that they could profit from it.
5. I don't know at what pay grades the lying originated, and at what level people were just being "useful id10ts". Again, I think that the gov't of China may have released it, but I'm not even blaming Fauci, and he has been publicly accused of being an AIDS serial murderer.  

Stop trying to move the goalposts from "eyeball needs to admit that the jabs were bunk and we were lied to" to "the people who were right about the jabs have to prove that they never accused Fauci of releasing the virus intentionally and saying that everyone in the world was part of his scam". 

You are a huge vaxtard eyeball. You spread disinformation both unwittingly and intentionally here at times, and now you're doing your level best to doge accountability. 

[Goddess]

9 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Did vaccinated people have better health outcomes than non- vaccinated in 2022?

No.

The Cochrane study showed that.

And hundreds of other studies show why.

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Did vaccinated people have better health outcomes than non- vaccinated in 2022?

Pesudovaxed people in 2022 are proven to have had far worse health outcomes than the unvaxed did back in 2020, when covid was a novel virus, because more pesudovaxed people died in 2022 than unvaxed died in 2020, and everyone was unvaxed in 2020, not just 86% of the population.

Ditto for 2021, aside from the fact that there were some dbl-vaxed in 2021. 

Pesudovaxed people in 2022 are proven to have had far worse health outcomes than they did themselves did in either of the previous years, because all 19,000 of them survived 2020 and 2021, then all 19,000 of them died in 2022.

Look how poorly the 4x-vaxed did, buddy:

• there were 38M unvaxed Canadians in summer 2020, and there were less than 400 deaths in Jun/July/Aug.
• there were only 2M 4-x vaxed Canadians in summer 2022, and over 700 deaths in that small group in Jun/July/Aug. Same season, same number days, the 4x-vaxed just died at an astronomical rate. It was even a 'weaker variant'.
• From all the data that's available to us, the 4x-vaxed in 2022 were BY FAR the most susceptible group of all to covid. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Do the covid jabs prevent transmission and infection?  

Most of the time yes. Do they eliminate transmission and infection all of the time? Of course they don't.

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Do you still believe it benefits children and young adults to get covid-jabbed?

Yes, it benefits society as well.

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

There are hundreds of studies and datasets with the correct answers to those 2 questions.

And there are thousands upon thousands that say they're wrong.

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Do you still ignore the science and just go with what the MSM says?

I told you I listen to my doctors.

Meanwhile you still believe Mr Fauci is Dr Mengele and Justin Trudeau is Adolf Hitler because you're completely batshit loony.

[Goddess]

11 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And there are thousands upon thousands that say they're wrong.

No, there isn't. The published studies and datasets are why most of the world has banned the shots for children.

It's only N. America that is still pushing them - coincidently, where the money is being made.

12 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Yes, it benefits society as well.

We're done here.

This is an utter lie, it's been proven and you still want kids to die and be permanently injured for you to "feel" safer.

You disgust me.

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, WestCanMan said:

Those are all facts. BUT... I still never said that any of the above released the virus intentionally so that they could profit from it.

Why not? You wouldn't be surprised in the least if they did. You've certainly stood shoulder to shoulder alongside cohorts who believe they did.

You people get the same way when Trump utters some ridiculously obvious lie, it just doesn't matter so long it lines up with your own twisted perceptions.

It's always like that under the Big Tent you people crawl around under. I get it, you're just trying to be inclusive and open minded right?

[Goddess]

Deaths by vaccination status, England - Office for National Statistics

 

The data shows that children who received the shots are 4423% (45x) more likely to die of any cause than unvaccinated children.

Additionally, vaxxed children are 13,633% (137x)  more likely to die of COVID-19 than those who didn’t receive an mRNA injection.

The stunning figures were revealed in recently published ONS data regarding deaths by vaccination status in England.

The latest dataset from the ONS is titled “Deaths by Vaccination Status, England, 1 January 2021 to 31 May 2022.”

[Moonlight Graham]

53 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Pesudovaxed people in 2022 are proven to have had far worse health outcomes than the unvaxed did back in 2020, when covid was a novel virus, because more pesudovaxed people died in 2022 than unvaxed died in 2020, and everyone was unvaxed in 2020, not just 86% of the population.

Ditto for 2021, aside from the fact that there were some dbl-vaxed in 2021. 

Pesudovaxed people in 2022 are proven to have had far worse health outcomes than they did themselves did in either of the previous years, because all 19,000 of them survived 2020 and 2021, then all 19,000 of them died in 2022.

Look how poorly the 4x-vaxed did, buddy:

• there were 38M unvaxed Canadians in summer 2020, and there were less than 400 deaths in Jun/July/Aug.
• there were only 2M 4-x vaxed Canadians in summer 2022, and over 700 deaths in that small group in Jun/July/Aug. Same season, same number days, the 4x-vaxed just died at an astronomical rate. It was even a 'weaker variant'.
• From all the data that's available to us, the 4x-vaxed in 2022 were BY FAR the most susceptible group of all to covid. 

That's not how you compare.  You compare vaxxed to unvaxxed in 2022.  Omicron was a highly contagious variant so it makes no sense to compare 2 different variants, it's not the same virus.

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Why not?

Because I don't know that for certain and it's a major accusation.

The accusation re: China isn't so bad imo because I feel like what they did to babies was far worse, although riskier. 

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You wouldn't be surprised in the least if they did.

Yeah, I'd be surprised if Fauci at al intentionally unleashed covid on the whole planet, knowing that it targets Americans (old & fat) more than any other group. 

I think Fauci is scum, but that's a stretch. 

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You've certainly stood shoulder to shoulder alongside cohorts who believe they did.

Not all conservatives take the exact same opinion on every facet of every argument every time. We're not like the cultist leftards.

I partly agree/disagree with conservatives constantly. IMO it's normal. 

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You people get the same way when Trump utters some ridiculously obvious lie, it just doesn't matter so long it lines up with your own twisted perceptions.

I'm not sure what you're referring to, if anything. It seems like you're talking straight out of your ass again.

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It's always like that under the Big Tent you people crawl around under. I get it, you're just trying to be inclusive and open minded right?

Whatever you slithery little piece of crap.

So where are you at now, for the 80,000th time?

Do you acknowledge that multi-vaxed people die of covid? That they spread it? Do you acknowledge that covid deaths went up by 30% and the MSM just stopped talking about them? 

I can't even talk to you about this until you reveal which stage of delusion you're stuck in... 

[eyeball]

11 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Not all conservatives take the exact same opinion on every facet of every argument every time.

You might as well given how utterly retarded some of the opinions are that you unquestioningly allow to pollute the spaces you people gather in. Maybe its a peculiar form of political correctness unique to conservatives - but you've clearly nodded, winked, liked, thanked and positively piped up alongside fellow posters throughout when they're indulging in this nonsense. You figure this is like free speech you're defending or are you just apologizing for it?  Sorry but I'm not taking that hooey to the bank either.

It's not my fault this is reflects on you too.

[WestCanMan]

Just now, eyeball said:

You might as well given how utterly retarded some of the opinions are that you unquestioningly allow to pollute the spaces you people gather in. Maybe its a peculiar form of political correctness unique to conservatives - but you've clearly nodded, winked, liked, thanked and positively piped up alongside fellow posters throughout when they're indulging in this nonsense. You figure this is like free speech you're defending or are you just apologizing for it?  Sorry but I'm not taking that hooey to the bank either.

It's not my fault this is reflects on you too.

So, here you are being exposed as a stooge and liar in post after post here, and instead of showing even the slightest bit of remorse or offering the slightest, least genuine apology ever, you just went right into sandbox insult mode 🤣

Eyeball, you're in no place to make accusations against people of proven character like myself, Goddess, Cdn Fox, etc. 

In case you missed it, I've made a lot of big claims in this thread, and in every instance I've backed them up with stats and incontrovertible evidence, usually with Health Canada's own stats. When was the last time that you offered anything stronger than an appeal to authority argument here? "Fauci said that I didn't have to worry if I got the jab, and I got the jab, and I didn't worry, so NYEH!"

All you do is come in here to make childish accusations and derail intelligent, meaningful conversation. 

I'm just going to conclude that owning up to anything is well beyond anything that you're capable of, and there's no need for me to waste my time looking at your worthless posts.

Adios, you worthless little child. 

[Goddess]

15 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

So, here you are being exposed as a stooge and liar in post after post here, and instead of showing even the slightest bit of remorse or offering the slightest, least genuine apology ever, you just went right into sandbox insult mode 🤣

It's because he supported and continues to support, everything and anything the gov't does.

He supports censorship and firing of anybody who has a different view than himself (which is exactly whatever the gov't tells him to think).

This is why he can insist that "the vast majority of doctors" think the jabs are miracles of science, when really it was the same approx 5 junior docs or interns repeatedly interviewed on MSM - and tens of thousands of doctors and scientists DISAGREE.  Just cancel and dismiss them because that's what the gov't wants and eyeball is a stooge, a useful idjit.  And ignore hundreds of studies and datasets.  Just ignore them.

His protestations that he disagrees with any aspect of gov't is a farce - he supports anything and everything they do unconditionally.

He's a gov't drone who cannot think for himself - he needs and welcomes the gov't thinking for him and that's why he RAGES when others can think critically and ask pertinent questions.  He does not believe the gov't should be questioned, on anything, ever.

[WestCanMan]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

He supports censorship and firing of anybody who has a different view than himself (which is exactly whatever the gov't tells him to think).

All the lefties supported the MSM and social media silencing all opposition to the almighty jab, they were all ok with the FBI shutting down discussions about Hunter's laptop and banning the NYPost from Twitter for telling the truth, and then they'll call Trump a threat to democracy.

Eyeball wouldn't know a threat to democracy if it was driving through the HoC in a main battle tank. 

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This is why he can insist that "the vast majority of doctors" think the jabs are miracles of science, when really it was the same approx 5 junior docs or interns repeatedly interviewed on MSM - and tens of thousands of doctors and scientists DISAGREE.  Just cancel and dismiss them because that's what the gov't wants and eyeball is a stooge, a useful idjit.  And ignore hundreds of studies and datasets.  Just ignore them.

It's really sad that right now people are dead, suffering, or living with the long-term effects of myocarditis, etc, but our media WILL NOT SHOW THEIR FACES OR TELL THEIR STORIES because it's just proof of the damage done by the complete failure of the vax.

Eyeball is totally ok with their suffering. He couldn't care less. He's ready to accept the next set of marching orders from the next fascist overlord, and watch the MSM and social media lock down the truth again.

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His protestations that he disagrees with any aspect of gov't is a farce - he supports anything and everything they do unconditionally.

He's a gov't drone who cannot think for himself - he needs and welcomes the gov't thinking for him and that's why he RAGES when others can think critically and ask pertinent questions.  He does not believe the gov't should be questioned, on anything, ever.

100%.

If he lived in Israel he'd be bombing anything that moved in Gaza.

If he was a Gazan he'd be murdering and raping women and getting his children to spit on the corpses. 

If he lived in 1935-'45 Germany he'd be ratting out dissenters, burning books, and pushing Jews into the oven. 

Like every SJW here he'd like to think that he'd be different, but he's not. He dislikes Nazis now because he grew up being told to dislike Nazis, but if he was living there in that moment, being told to lick Hitler's boots, he'd make a meal of it.

He's the prototypical gov't pawn/useful id10t.

If the gov't just makes him feel a bit of fear, or butters him up and tell him that he's a SJW, he's down for all the nasty business that follows and he'll pile up the corpses of victims without ever knowing remorse. 

[eyeball]

45 minutes ago, Goddess said:

It's because he supported and continues to support, everything and anything the gov't does.

No, I just can't believe the murderous things you people accuse them of committing.

Overdosing people to discredit potential treatments for example. Creating a virus so corporations can make billions treating people with it.

Designing the vaccine to make it even more murderous than the virus.

You're on LSD.

 

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I just can't believe the murderous things you people accuse them of committing.

Overdosing people to discredit potential treatments for example. Creating a virus so corporations can make billions treating people with it.

Designing the vaccine to make it even more murderous than the virus.

You're on LSD.

 

Read the study, dumbass.

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, I just can't believe the murderous things you people accuse them of committing.

Overdosing people to discredit potential treatments for example. Creating a virus so corporations can make billions treating people with it.

Designing the vaccine to make it even more murderous than the virus.

You're on LSD.

 

Read Fauci's murdering of gays with HIV.  Human experimentation in Africa.

You don't believe people murder others for money - how stoopid are you?

You've been provided enough information that you should quit lying and supporting the liars and murderers.

Educate yourself or STFU.

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

Read Fauci's murdering of gays with HIV.  Human experimentation in Africa.

It's alarming what you need to have on your resume to land a job as the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases or the WHO nowadays. 

[WestCanMan]

23 hours ago, Goddess said:

Let's start here:

Do the covid jabs prevent transmission and infection?  

Do you still believe it benefits children and young adults to get covid-jabbed?

There are hundreds of studies and datasets with the correct answers to those 2 questions.

Do you still ignore the science and just go with what the MSM says?

I'm surprised that eyeball didn't answer those questions.....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[eyeball]

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

Read Fauci's murdering of gays with HIV.  Human experimentation in Africa.

Do you have the court transcript of his trial?

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

You don't believe people murder others for money

I'm sure it happens all the time I just believe it needs to be proven when it's alleged.

9 hours ago, Goddess said:

You've been provided enough information that you should quit lying and supporting the liars and murderers.

Where's the extraordinary evidence to prove the extraordinary claim that Fauci committed premeditated mass murder for his personal financial gain?

 

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I'm surprised that eyeball didn't answer those questions.....

I answered them.

BTW why do you believe the claim Fauci killed millions of people for money is such an outrageous allegation?

Goddess sure seems utterly convinced don't you think? Are you really sure it's that outrageous after all?

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

I answered them.

With lies.

Nothing you said there was true, eyeball.

 

G: "Do the covid jabs prevent transmission and infection?" 

On 7/10/2024 at 3:43 PM, eyeball said:

Most of the time yes. Do they eliminate transmission and infection all of the time? Of course they don't.

No, they do not prevent transmission, eyeball. Not at all. Not even 1%.

1. Pfizer and Moderna never even tested for that.
2. Over 16,000 multi-vaxed Canadians died of covid in 2022 alone... FYI people don't have to be sick enough to die to spread covid eyeball. If they did then almost no one would have gotten it.
3. In fact, the theory from Fauci et al, which was eagerly passed along by our fear-porn media, was that even people who were asymptomatic could even pass on the virus. 
4. Also, the theoretical reason that so many people died of covid in 2022 was that there were far more infections than ever before. FYI the 15% of the population that was unvaxed didn't spread all of that covid by themselves, dummy.
5. There were also 3.5x as many hospitalizations in 2022 as there were in 2020, when no one was vaccinated.

0% vaxed in 2020 = 600,000 hospitalizations

85% vaxed in 2022 = 600,000 hospitalizations + 600,000 hospitalizations + 600,000 hospitalizations + 300,000 hospitalizations (2.16M).

Eyeball, if what you said is true, then somehow the 15% that were unvaxed, and only accounted for 14% of the deaths, somehow managed to spread covid faster than the whole unvaxed population of Canada did in 2020 and the first part of 2021...

 

G: "Do the covid jabs prevent transmission and infection? " 

On 7/10/2024 at 3:43 PM, eyeball said:

Most of the time yes. Do they eliminate transmission and infection all of the time? Of course they don't.

Absolutely not. Not even a teensy, tiny bit. 

The number of multi-vaxed who died of covid in 2022 was higher than the total number of people who died of covid in either of the previous years. And all of those MV'd people who died of covid in 2022 survived thru 2020 and 2021...

Also, the 4x-vaxed had literally the worst outcomes of any other group against covid, by far. About 605 of them died in the summer of 2022 (J, J and Aug), and they only accounted for 1/20th of the population at that time.

By contrast, only 350 people died of covid in J, J and Aug of 2020, and all 40M Canadians were unvaxed. 

5% of the population was 4x-vaxed in J, J and Aug of 2022 = 605 deaths

100% of the population was unvaxed in J, J and Aug of 2020 = 350 deaths

How did 20x as many people account for half as many deaths? The 4x-vaxed punched way above their weight class in the ability to die category. 

 

G: "Do you still believe it benefits children and young adults to get covid-jabbed?"

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Yes, it benefits society as well.

I've showed you this before, but it bears repeating:

You can see clearly from those two charts that after almost 2 full years  [Feb 2020-Dec 2021 = 22 months] only 19 people under 20 had died of covid. The kiddie vax rollout started in Nov of 2021, just a month before.

Over the next 11 months, 47 people died in that age category. 

22 months with no vax, 19 deaths.

11 months with the vax, 47 deaths. 

Half the time period, 2.5x as many deaths. 

That's not even taking into account kids who were killed by the vax... How many were there eyeball? Why is that hidden from us? Why does our gov't not talk about people who were killed by the vax at all? Why don't they talk about people who were offered Medical Assistance In Dying due to their vax-induced suffering? 

Why did the media FREAK OUT when 15,000 unvaxed people died of covid in 2020, but they had stopped talking about covid in 2022 when 16,000 multi-vaxed people died of covid? 

If people died of polio more often after the polio vax rollout, would people even give a rip about vaccines? Would we put vaccines on a pedestal? No, they wouldn't. 

The use of the word 'covid' beside the word 'vaccine' has forever tarnished the word vaccine. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Nothing you said there was true, eyeball.

Even when I said I followed my doctors advice?

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Nothing you said there was true, eyeball.

Like what Goddess says about Fauci killing millions of people for personal profit? You say you don't you believe that either, why?