Nationalist Posted October 15, 2022 Report Posted October 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Rebound said: But it was ok when Trump did it. When a Democrat does it, ooooh, it’s baaad! But when a Republican does the exact same thing… no problem! It’s ok, cause it’s our team! Right? Gas prices went DOWN while Trump was POTUS and he didn't drain the reserves like Dumbo is doing. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 19 hours ago, Rebound said: Shut Up. You’re just a liar. And a terrible one at that. The Republican and the Democrat legislatures of all fifty states legally certified their 2020 election results and the US Congress legally accepted those results. So as long as you spout off lies and fantasy, nothing you say is relevant. 2000 Mules. I rest my case. If you don't like the fact that my FREE SPEECH offends your tender Woke genes, ignore me. Only an idiot suggests that Alzheimer Joe (who campaigned from a basement, lost every debate with President Trump and couldn't draw a crowd of over 100 people even at gunpoint) somehow got more votes than Barak Obama in 2020. A fraud was certified, for whatever reason. And remember, YOUR side of the aisle actually hired a special prosecutor to look into your RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA nonsense, because you butt hurt liberals could not stop crying about the fact that Hillary lost the office she though she was entitled to. Your side whines more than anyone. Quote
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: Gas prices went DOWN while Trump was POTUS and he didn't drain the reserves like Dumbo is doing. It was President George W. Bush who showed the right way to use the National Strategic Reserve. (I'm surprised more people don't know this.) Shortly after Hurricane Katrina, those damaged oil platforms in the Gulf had oil speculators on the verge of bidding up the price of a barrel of oil. Bush very quietly and carefully released some oil into that market to quiet those speculators. That oil was replaced later on. Bush was at times an ineffective president (probably because he was the most centrist president in history.) But he came from an oil family and understood oil markets. I'll give him that. Quote
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 21 hours ago, Rebound said: So what has Biden done which makes oil-rich Canada’s gas prices so high? Most people do not understand this. There are several elements to influence gas prices. One is the integrity of the American dollar (which is the reserve currency of the world and is what oil is traded on.) You might look into the Canadian dollar market to see if this is a monetary problem. In the oil market are speculators. If they see ANY hiccup in supply, both today and in the future, they bid up the price of oil. It's one of the reasons the United States is still vested in the peace of the Middle East. A ship hits a mine in the waters of the Strait of Hormuz and gets destroyed and oil prices will go up. Oil platforms in the Gulf Of Mexico were destroyed during Hurricane Katrina and speculators were all set to bid up the price of oil. (It took President Bush releasing a few barrels from the Strategic Reserve to calm that hysteria.) Biden created a threat to domestic supply with his assault of domestic oil production https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joe-biden-hampered-domestic-energy-industry-despite-pleas-foreign-oil https://www.nationalreview.com/news/biden-administration-handicapped-domestic-energy-production-on-first-day-in-office-memos-reveal/ https://nypost.com/2022/10/13/biden-begs-opec-for-oil-for-political-preservation-after-kneecapping-americas-energy-industry/ https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-war-american-energy-makes-carter-years-look-good-comparison Quote
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 21 hours ago, Rebound said: “Allegedly”… according to very anti-Biden Rupert Murdoch. Yeah. Duh. In other news, the sun will rise in the East tomorrow. When Trump left office, our economy was shut down due to the pandemic and oil consumption was ultra low. So of course prices will rise when demand triples. Basic economics. Demand has outstripped supply because wells that were shut down take time to resume, and now OPEC has taken Russia’s side against America, which we should all remember the next time someone threatens to invade them. Better yet, let’s triple-down on alternative energy, become the world leader in alternative energy products, and export them worldwide. Then Saudi Arabia can eat all the sand they want. Nope. Demand has outstripped supply because Joe declared war on American domestic energy production. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/bidens-war-american-energy-makes-carter-years-look-good-comparison He did it. He stupidly signed what THE SQUAD stuck in front of him (because the Alzheimer's old fart doesn't know where he is half the time.) Quote
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 8 hours ago, Nationalist said: Gas prices went DOWN while Trump was POTUS and he didn't drain the reserves like Dumbo is doing. People don't understand just how valuable Trump was during his legally elected presidency. While the headlines were all featuring the COVID hoax, (and democrat attempts to use that hoax as a campaign tool), President Trump was very quietly settling an oil war between OPEC and the Russians. His superior business experience got both sides to the table and settled them down. It was a great gift to American oil companies. Without this action, they would have gone out of business. It took an unelected senile racist pedophile named Joe to completely undo all that with his war on domestic energy production, basically to assuage the hysteria of the far left and their idiotic climate change fairy tale. https://www.gop.gov/biden-kept-his-promise-to-wage-a-war-on-american-energy/ For the liberals here about to erupt in whining and crying, never forget that Joe CAMPAIGNED on doing this. https://nypost.com/2022/05/23/biden-praises-gas-prices-as-part-of-incredible-transition/ 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 15, 2022 Report Posted October 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, reason10 said: It was President George W. Bush who showed the right way to use the National Strategic Reserve. (I'm surprised more people don't know this.) Shortly after Hurricane Katrina, those damaged oil platforms in the Gulf had oil speculators on the verge of bidding up the price of a barrel of oil. Bush very quietly and carefully released some oil into that market to quiet those speculators. That oil was replaced later on. Bush was at times an ineffective president (probably because he was the most centrist president in history.) But he came from an oil family and understood oil markets. I'll give him that. Bush used a lie and leveled Baghdad. Is that "centrist"? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted October 15, 2022 Report Posted October 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, reason10 said: People don't understand just how valuable Trump was during his legally elected presidency. While the headlines were all featuring the COVID hoax, (and democrat attempts to use that hoax as a campaign tool), President Trump was very quietly settling an oil war between OPEC and the Russians. His superior business experience got both sides to the table and settled them down. It was a great gift to American oil companies. Without this action, they would have gone out of business. It took an unelected senile racist pedophile named Joe to completely undo all that with his war on domestic energy production, basically to assuage the hysteria of the far left and their idiotic climate change fairy tale. https://www.gop.gov/biden-kept-his-promise-to-wage-a-war-on-american-energy/ For the liberals here about to erupt in whining and crying, never forget that Joe CAMPAIGNED on doing this. https://nypost.com/2022/05/23/biden-praises-gas-prices-as-part-of-incredible-transition/ Now this I can agree with. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 Quote On 10/14/2022 at 11:14 AM, Rebound said: You can see here that global petroleum consumption was far lower in Q1 2020 than Q1 2021. https://www.eia.gov/outlooks/steo/report/global_oil.php Why are gas prices high? Republicans, of course. Obviously. Ask yourself this: Where is all that gas money going? Oil companies. Their profits are higher than ever. And which is the party that always, always, always fights alternative energy development? Why, GOSH, it’s the same party that the oil companies support. Because the Republicans don’t care if you pay more for gas, if your kids get asthma, or if your children starve in the future if we can’t make enough food. Oil companies have LOTS of scientists. That’s how they drill. Science. They don’t pray to Jesus for oil. It’s science. And those same scientists have looked at all the global warming science. They know it’s real, but they want to keep selling oil. What they should do is invest in clean energy tech, because that’s the future, but they don’t care about the future, they care about the now. Can America move half or more of our electricity generation to wind and solar? Absolutely. One party’s for that, and one party fights it. One party embraces a man who says windmills cause cancer. So there’s sanity versus insanity. Joe Biden is pursuing the right strategy. In fact, we should triple down on his spending. Double electrical generation over all and increase renewable electrical generation fivefold. Build more electric cars and move more industrial energy consumption to electricity. The result will be a BOOMING US economy; because everything runs on energy and the more we produce, the more we can manufacture. We can improve our standard of living and our quality of life, we can be an exporter of advanced energy technology and cut the unstable Mideast and Russia out of the equation. That isn’t liberal, it’s plain common sense. And it is absolutely doable. WRONG. Joe is responsible for the high gas prices. That part is documented. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/biden-war-american-energy-take-toll-democrats-november Quote President Joe Biden’s war on American energy started the day he took office on Jan. 20, 2021 and hasn’t let up since. Voters pay the price. In the last 12 months, Biden’s policies have pushed prices higher by 8.3 percent; gasoline is up almost 26 percent, and food up 11.4 percent. America went from energy dominance under the policies of former President Donald Trump—we even became a net exporter of energy in 2019 for the first time since 1952—to a country in which the domestic energy industry is vilified, and federal regulators use their power to hinder energy production. American production of oil is off about 1 million barrels a day since the pre-COVID-19 peak under Trump in late 2019, an eight percent decline. How did Joe manage this, almost single handedly? https://www.gop.gov/biden-kept-his-promise-to-wage-a-war-on-american-energy/ Quote Biden began fulfilling his anti-energy promise on his first day in office, when he when he killed the Keystone XL pipeline, which could be supplying 830,000 thousand barrels of oil from Canada to U.S. refineries. In his first week in office, President Biden issued an executive order suspending all oil and gas leasing on federal lands and waters. While a federal judge ruled the leasing bans to be illegal, Biden’s administration has issued ZERO new leases on federal lands. In May 2021, President Biden removed sanctions against Nord Stream 2, which were previously put in place by former President Trump. In February 2022, President Biden reversed course and reimposed the Trump sanctions, noting the “overwhelming incentive to move away from Russian gas…” President Biden’s Far-Left Socialist agenda, Build Back Better, was an effort to cripple domestic energy by increasing oil and gas production payments to 20%, increasing bonding and surety requirements to more than 15 times their current levels, imposing a new severance tax, and establishing new annual fees of $10,000 per mile for offshore pipelines. President Biden’s FY22 Budget request explicitly opposed funding the construction or maintenance of projects that would lower the cost of gas, diesel, or energy derived from fossil fuels. Biden’s Department of Energy has slow-walked liquefied natural gas (LNG) exports that could reduce Europe’s dependence on Russia. Joe is the worst thing to happen to the American driving and working class since Nixon and Carter. Quote
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 17 hours ago, Rebound said: But it was ok when Trump did it. When a Democrat does it, ooooh, it’s baaad! But when a Republican does the exact same thing… no problem! It’s ok, cause it’s our team! Right? Uh, there's nothing in the records about Trump tapping into the Strategic Oil Reserve. He actually did the opposite. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/20/trump-oil-companies-strategic-petroleum-reserve/ Quote WASHINGTON — The Trump administration said Thursday that it is seeking $3 billion from Congress to top up the country’s strategic petroleum reserves, potentially propping up U.S. oil producers after crude prices crashed globally. President Donald Trump had directed the Energy Department last week to fill the United States’ emergency stash of crude oil to the top, over objections from congressional Democrats who said he was favoring climate-damaging fossil fuels and the profits of oil giants. Plummeting crude prices benefited U.S. consumers filling up their cars, Trump said Thursday. “But on the other hand, it hurts a great industry, and a very powerful industry," Trump told reporters. West Texas crude prices fell below $21 a barrel Wednesday after oil producers Russia and Saudi Arabia stepped up pumping, threatening the market share of U.S. oil, and as the coronavirus moved the world toward recession and tamped-down consumer demand for energy. Energy Secretary Dan Brouillette told reporters Thursday that the move was about filling up the country’s 713.5 million barrel Strategic Petroleum Reserve at a time of cheap oil, not about throwing U.S. oil producers a lifeline in rough markets. The reserves are stashed underground in Texas and Louisiana. “It’s a common-sense move. Everyone who’s done any personal investment knows you do your best to buy low and sell high,” Brouillette said. Brouillette also denied the United States was intervening against market forces to boost U.S. oil prices. Pointing to Russia and Saudi Arabia’s surge of production, he said the purpose of the nation’s strategic oil reserves is “to mitigate this type of disruption.” Bottom line, Trump was the greatest thing to happen to American drivers since Reagan. https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-trumps-energy-independence-policy/ Quote MERICAN ENERGY INDEPENDENCE: President Donald J. Trump’s Energy Independence Policy Executive Order reverses the regulations on American jobs and energy production. President Trump’s Executive Order directs the Environmental Protection Agency to suspend, revise, or rescind four actions related to the Clean Power Plan that would stifle the American energy industry. President Trump’s Executive Order directs the Attorney General to seek appropriate relief from the courts over pending litigation related to the Clean Power Plan. President Trump’s Executive Order rescinds Executive and Agency actions centered on the previous administration’s climate change agenda that have acted as a road block to energy independence. President Trump’s Executive Order lifts the ban on Federal leasing for coal production. President Trump’s Executive Order lifts job-killing restrictions on the production of oil, natural gas, and shale energy. President Trump’s Executive Order directs all agencies to conduct a review of existing actions that harm domestic energy production and suspend, revise, or rescind actions that are not mandated by law. Within 180 days, agencies must finalize their plans. President Trump’ Executive Order directs agencies to use the best available science and economics in regulatory analysis, which was not utilized by the previous administration. It disbands the Interagency Working Group (IWG) on the Social Cost of Greenhouse Gases. By revisiting the federal overreach on energy regulation, President Trump is returning power to the states – where it belongs. FREEING AMERICA’S POTENTIAL: President Trump has worked tirelessly to free American industry and ingenuity from the constraints of Government overreach. President Trump has signed four pieces of legislation to clear burdensome and costly regulations on energy production from the previous Administration. President Trump has required that for every new Federal regulation, two existing regulations be eliminated. President Trump has directed each agency to establish a Regulatory Reform Task Force to identify costly and unnecessary regulations in need of modification or repeal. President Trump has directed the Department of Commerce to streamline Federal permitting processes for domestic manufacturing and to reduce regulatory burdens on domestic manufacturers. President Trump signed legislation, House Joint Resolution 38, to prevent the burdensome “Stream Protection Rule” from causing further harm to the coal industry. President Trump ordered the review of the “Clean Water Rule: Definition of Waters of the United States,” known as the WOTUS rule, to evaluate whether it is stifling economic growth or job creation. President Trump signed a Presidential Memorandum and gave a Presidential permit to clear roadblocks to construct the Keystone XL Pipeline. President Trump signed a Presidential Memorandum declaring that the Dakota Access Pipeline serves the national interest and initiating the process to complete its construction. And then Biden stole the election and gas prices soared. Quote
robosmith Posted October 15, 2022 Report Posted October 15, 2022 26 minutes ago, reason10 said: Uh, there's nothing in the records about Trump tapping into the Strategic Oil Reserve. He actually did the opposite. https://www.autoblog.com/2020/03/20/trump-oil-companies-strategic-petroleum-reserve/ Bottom line, Trump was the greatest thing to happen to American drivers since Reagan. https://trumpwhitehouse.archives.gov/briefings-statements/president-trumps-energy-independence-policy/ And then Biden stole the election and gas prices soared. Trump is a conman and you've been thoroughly conned. Congrats on you extreme naivete. We can tell cause you ONLY cite right wing propaganda sites and seem to believe they are honest journalism. Quote
herbie Posted October 15, 2022 Report Posted October 15, 2022 Gee gas is $10 a gallon in Vancouver and inflation's almost 10% and they don't have Biden to kick around. Why don't you criticize him for considering buying oil from ENEMIES instead of Alberta oil? Or would that be just too legitimate for you? Quote
Infidel Dog Posted October 15, 2022 Report Posted October 15, 2022 17 minutes ago, herbie said: Gee gas is $10 a gallon in Vancouver and inflation's almost 10% and they don't have Biden to kick around. Why don't you criticize him for considering buying oil from ENEMIES instead of Alberta oil? Or would that be just too legitimate for you? Yeah, but I would expect you as an unapologetic NDPer to remember we BCers have a lot socialists in every nook and cranny of the infrastructure wanting to tax everything and support any green wacko wanting to protest and stop any kind of improvement in the deliverance of energy. We should have more refineries too but the leftist warmiacs would never stand for that. Then there's the Progressive socialists in Ottawa printing out new money like they think they're Joe Biden. Quote
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Nationalist said: Bush used a lie and leveled Baghdad. Is that "centrist"? First, he didn't lie. At the time Congress gave him the okay to go after Saddam (and that included Senator Clinton voting yes on the matter) the best intelligence sources in the world maintained that Saddam had those chemical weapons. He threatened our troops with them. He threatened to launch them against Israel. He used them to wipe out hordes of Kurds. Secondly, NOBODY leveled Baghdad. Bombs were launched then our troops moved in. Then Obama withdrew our troops and left all that military hardware for ISIS. By the way, that is called TREASON. George W. Bush managed to piss off conservatives and liberals EQUALLY in the eight years he was in office. He was the most centrist president in history. While he was a war hawk in the middle east, he championed open borders and giving amnesty to illegal aliens. He formulated a REALLY idiotic education plan (No child left behind) with TED KENNEDY.) CEntrist. Pissing off both sides equally. Quote
reason10 Posted October 15, 2022 Author Report Posted October 15, 2022 6 hours ago, robosmith said: Trump is a conman and you've been thoroughly conned. Congrats on you extreme naivete. We can tell cause you ONLY cite right wing propaganda sites and seem to believe they are honest journalism. Trump is the finest president in the history of America. So far, the sites I have posted have been fair and balanced. You on the other hand seem to get all your ideology from THE VIEW. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 16, 2022 Report Posted October 16, 2022 12 hours ago, reason10 said: First, he didn't lie. At the time Congress gave him the okay to go after Saddam (and that included Senator Clinton voting yes on the matter) the best intelligence sources in the world maintained that Saddam had those chemical weapons. He threatened our troops with them. He threatened to launch them against Israel. He used them to wipe out hordes of Kurds. Secondly, NOBODY leveled Baghdad. Bombs were launched then our troops moved in. Then Obama withdrew our troops and left all that military hardware for ISIS. By the way, that is called TREASON. George W. Bush managed to piss off conservatives and liberals EQUALLY in the eight years he was in office. He was the most centrist president in history. While he was a war hawk in the middle east, he championed open borders and giving amnesty to illegal aliens. He formulated a REALLY idiotic education plan (No child left behind) with TED KENNEDY.) CEntrist. Pissing off both sides equally. Oh come on. They knew there was nothing there because Rumsfeld was the one selling arms to them. They knew exactly what Sadam had and didn't have. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Michael Hardner Posted October 16, 2022 Report Posted October 16, 2022 12 hours ago, reason10 said: Trump is the finest president in the history of America. So far, the sites I have posted have been fair and balanced. You on the other hand seem to get all your ideology from THE VIEW. Yes.... make a statement and back it up with an insult... just more sad trolling from the cult... ok then... I've seen enough. Enjoy my IGNORE list. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
reason10 Posted October 16, 2022 Author Report Posted October 16, 2022 1 hour ago, Nationalist said: Oh come on. They knew there was nothing there because Rumsfeld was the one selling arms to them. They knew exactly what Sadam had and didn't have. You are making that up. Quote
reason10 Posted October 16, 2022 Author Report Posted October 16, 2022 16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes.... make a statement and back it up with an insult... just more sad trolling from the cult... ok then... I've seen enough. Enjoy my IGNORE list. It's an honor to be on your IGNORE list. 1 Quote
Nationalist Posted October 16, 2022 Report Posted October 16, 2022 15 minutes ago, reason10 said: You are making that up. No. I'm sorry but I'm not. https://mediamonitors.net/rumsfelds-handshake-deal-with-saddam-history-out-of-media-bounds/ Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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