What other Presidential candidate but Trump had the vision to recognize corruption and the guts to tackle it?

[ironstone]

8 hours ago, Rebound said:

Be reasonable. 
“I am against mob violence and those who encourage or incite them.” It doesn’t matter whether that person is D or R. Wrong is wrong.

Now, look up what fascism is. The closest we ever came to fascism was a President who refused to accept his electoral defeat. And he was asked MANY TIMES long before the election if he would accept a loss and leave office, and he never said he would.  His plan was to hold onto power at all costs. And that is fascist.  Sorry, it just is.  The Republicans need to give up on Trump and conspiracy theories and talk about actual policy to make America better. 

Well, Trump did end up leaving the White House so he did accept the results with strong reservations. If you label him a fascist for that then does that not also apply to the long list of Democrats that disputed election results? It's a pretty long list compared to Republicans.

Real fascists stand by while free speech is under attack. Real fascists do not tolerate diversity of opinion. Antifa behaves like a fascist group. All of this is tolerated or outright encouraged by the new radical left.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Well, Trump did end up leaving the White House so he did accept the results with strong reservations. If you label him a fascist for that then does that not also apply to the long list of Democrats that disputed election results? It's a pretty long list compared to Republicans.

Real fascists stand by while free speech is under attack. Real fascists do not tolerate diversity of opinion. Antifa behaves like a fascist group. All of this is tolerated or outright encouraged by the new radical left.

How is opposing fascism "like a fascist group? You know we went to WAR to oppose fascism, don't you?

Trump left the WH because he miscalculated and didn't have ENOUGH ruthless thugs to back him up.

Just like Hitler failed the FIRST time he tried to take over Germany.

[ironstone]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

How is opposing fascism "like a fascist group? You know we went to WAR to oppose fascism, don't you?

Trump left the WH because he miscalculated and didn't have ENOUGH ruthless thugs to back him up.

Just like Hitler failed the FIRST time he tried to take over Germany.

Let me get this straight. Antifa supposedly means anti-fascist. They regularly use violence against anyone and everyone that disagrees with them and you claim that isn't in any way a fascist tactic?

Antifa activists say violence is necessary | The Hill

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

Let me get this straight. Antifa supposedly means anti-fascist. They regularly use violence against anyone and everyone that disagrees with them and you claim that isn't in any way a fascist tactic?

Antifa activists say violence is necessary | The Hill

The US fought A WAR to oppose fascism. Was that a "fascist tactic"? 

Far from it. Not all violence is equal. You HAVE TO consider what is being fought AGAINST.

Republicans are trying to destroy democracy by putting election results in the hands of state legislatures instead of voters.

That is PRO-FASCIST.

[Rebound]

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

Let me get this straight. Antifa supposedly means anti-fascist. They regularly use violence against anyone and everyone that disagrees with them and you claim that isn't in any way a fascist tactic?

Antifa activists say violence is necessary | The Hill

Antifa, Antifa, Antifa… it’s all you talk about.  Can you name one single member of Antifa? How many members do they have? Do they exist at all?

They’re a bunch of assholes but they’re a minuscule group of criminals who have zero connection to political leadership or mainstream leaders. They aren’t the shadow government.  They aren’t hiding in your closet. 

Edited October 13, 2022 by Rebound

[Nationalist]

Libbies like to use the term "mostly peaceful protests" in a selective manner.

The BLM riots were "mostly peaceful protests". The January 6th riot was not...according to Libbies.

Yet...there were about 100,000 people at Trump's rally. Only a small fraction of them decided to enter the Capital. 

Then there's the damage done by both. BLM riots...hundreds of millions in damages. Jan 6...some windows and doors.

If you simply read the Libbie posts in this thread, your read pure hatred. Pure desperation. Now...The Rona came along at a rather opportune time for Libbies. It allowed them to warp the election process and...IMO...cheat.

Question: Would people filled with such pure hatred, be capable of releasing The Rona on the world, just to "get Trump"?

Edited October 13, 2022 by Nationalist

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Libbies like to use the term "mostly peaceful protests" in a selective manner.

The BLM riots were "mostly peaceful protests". The January 6th riot was not...according to Libbies.

Who said ^this? You?

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Yet...there were about 100,000 people at Trump's rally. Only a small fraction of them decided to enter the Capital.

There might have been 50K who wanted to get in, but many were armed and didn't want to forfeit their weapons.

That is why Trump wanted the "mags" to be removed, because he said, "they're not here to hurt me."

We know who they were there to hurt: "Hang Mike Pence."

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

 

Then there's the damage done by both. BLM riots...hundreds of millions in damages. Jan 6...some windows and doors.

And 140 cops injured, some badly. We know WHY you're trying to minimize the damage.

Thanks to those cops, catastrophic damage to democracy was averted.

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

If you simply read the Libbie posts in this thread, your read pure hatred. Pure desperation. Now...The Rona came along at a rather opportune time for Libbies. It allowed them to warp the election process and...IMO...cheat.

^No evidence by YOU nor Trump in 60+ court cases which were THROWN OUT.

Of course Republicans claim that not being able to block the minority vote with LONG LINES is "cheating." It's NOT.

3 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Question: Would people filled with such pure hatred, be capable of releasing The Rona on the world, just to "get Trump"?

LMAO. NO EVIDENCE for ^this, either. Trump did a fraudulent job of spreading the virus all by HIMSELF with his denials and super-spreader events. Guess you didn't hear about him contradicting his public statements in private RECORDED phone calls with Woodward. Or prefer to ignore that fraud.

 

[Rebound]

18 hours ago, ironstone said:

Well, Trump did end up leaving the White House so he did accept the results with strong reservations. If you label him a fascist for that then does that not also apply to the long list of Democrats that disputed election results? It's a pretty long list compared to Republicans.

Real fascists stand by while free speech is under attack. Real fascists do not tolerate diversity of opinion. Antifa behaves like a fascist group. All of this is tolerated or outright encouraged by the new radical left.

Trump left the White House only because it was made abundantly clear that men with guns would drag him out if he didn’t leave, and the US Military and Secret Service weren’t going to support his effort to hold onto power. 

[ironstone]

On 10/12/2022 at 10:38 AM, Rebound said:

Isn’t that fascinating? They all use this term “weaponizing”?

But wasn’t it Trump who told the entire world that he would imprison his political rival? At least admit that simple fact.  
 

Then, tell us WHY Trump’s DOJ could convict Trump’s own people but not a single one of Obama’s, including Clinton? Trump says they are criminals! He promised to lock them up! Next time, vote for somebody who’s competent! Better yet, don’t vote for a criminal.   
 

Below is a photo from GSA showing the documents Trump took from the White House. It’s literally a truckload.  He didn’t bring those with him when he moved in. That’s a crime. It’s a bunch of crimes, and his lawyers told him not to take that, the Feds asked him nicely many times to return it.  He’s a damn crook, and that’s all there is to it  

 

And then he promised the tax returns, over and over he promised, then he fought their release all the way to the Supreme Court… because of course he knew he’d broken the law! There are other billionaire pols who releases their returns. But not Trump

I believe the documents Trump took were at least secure. Not like this other past president.

Obama Foundation Stored Classified Documents in Warehouse, Letter Reveals USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page.

I have said it many times in here, it's not the "what" that's important, it's "who". Justice is not always applied equally.

Are you happy with the current state of the US under Biden? Did he meet your expectations or perhaps even exceed them? Just curious.

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

I believe the documents Trump took were at least secure. Not like this other past president.

Obama Foundation Stored Classified Documents in Warehouse, Letter Reveals USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page.

I have said it many times in here, it's not the "what" that's important, it's "who". Justice is not always applied equally.

Are you happy with the current state of the US under Biden? Did he meet your expectations or perhaps even exceed them? Just curious.

Well as long as "Constitutional Nobody" says it, it must be true. LMAO

A letter on the Obama Foundation website says "classified and unclassified" documents will be moved, but that is the ONLY place classified is mentioned and it is LIKELY just a mistake, which is why it was never reported to the DOJ.

Prove that they actually stored classified documents in an unapproved facility. That letter is NOT proof.

[Rebound]

6 hours ago, ironstone said:

I believe the documents Trump took were at least secure. Not like this other past president.

Obama Foundation Stored Classified Documents in Warehouse, Letter Reveals USSA News | The Tea Party's Front Page.

I have said it many times in here, it's not the "what" that's important, it's "who". Justice is not always applied equally.

Are you happy with the current state of the US under Biden? Did he meet your expectations or perhaps even exceed them? Just curious.

According to the National Archives, your Tea Party website is lying. 
https://www.archives.gov/press/press-releases/2022/nr22-001

[ironstone]

13 hours ago, robosmith said:

Well as long as "Constitutional Nobody" says it, it must be true. LMAO

A letter on the Obama Foundation website says "classified and unclassified" documents will be moved, but that is the ONLY place classified is mentioned and it is LIKELY just a mistake, which is why it was never reported to the DOJ.

Prove that they actually stored classified documents in an unapproved facility. That letter is NOT proof.

Maybe if I copy your style, as in the excessive use of caps then you'll have to believe it.?

[Infidel Dog]

What's a "Constitutional Nobody" by the way? 

It's interesting. I'd like to know who made that little bit of a BS term up. Was it you Robo or did you hear it somewhere?

Edited October 14, 2022 by Infidel Dog

[Infidel Dog]

On 10/12/2022 at 3:19 PM, ironstone said:

the new radical left.

Speaking of BS terms, I have a problem with that one too.

It isn't that it's untrue. It's that it's redundant. 

[ironstone]

4 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

Speaking of BS terms, I have a problem with that one too.

It isn't that it's untrue. It's that it's redundant. 

Yeah, I guess I can't really argue with that one lol.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Infidel Dog said:

What's a "Constitutional Nobody" by the way? 

It's interesting. I'd like to know who made that little bit of a BS term up. Was it you Robo or did you hear it somewhere?

IT's the guy who posted the link to the letter and wrote the article cited. Maybe if you clicked on ironstone's link, you'd know that.

[Nationalist]

On 10/9/2022 at 9:37 PM, robosmith said:

You guess wrong. Only a small minority of those at BLM/Antifa protests were violent.

Why CAN'T you answer my questions? Are you PRO-fascist?

BS. No one on the right here has condemned the violence on Jan 6th.

Or Trump for inciting violence at his rallies.

Have YOU?

ROFLMAO!

Are you a white, cream-filled, completely unhealthy little cake?