Support for monarchy

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, myata said:

, for Canada. It needs the institute of a foreign

it's not foreign

Canada has no culture separate from British culture

Canada is in fact more British than the British themselves

in the face of the Americans ever at the gates

Canada is frozen in time

Victorian forever

Brock & Tecumseh, our founding fathers, upon Queenston Heights

VRI - Pro Patria

 

[Iceni warrior]

Well we managed to get out of the EU without getting into a civil war and that was rather contentious as you know.

Bloody Brexit *spits*

There might be a punchup or two at Rangers and Celtic but I don't think it would be Roundheads and Cavaliers all over again.

Nobody's got any guns for a start.

 

[Dougie93]

2 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Nobody's got any guns for a start.

 America will supply the guns, as always

free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying

 

[Iceni warrior]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

 America will supply the guns, as always

free all the slaves everywhere, or die trying

 

They might only give them to the Catholics again though.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

They might only give them to the Catholics again though.

as a dual citizen American

I would warn all you Limeys & Canucks

you'd better cling to your monarchy which we have an alliance with

otherwise, all bets are off

and we are gonna jam American freedom down your republican throats, whether you like it or not

yeehaw

 

[Iceni warrior]

Just now, Dougie93 said:

 

 we are gonna jam American freedom down your republican throats, whether you like it or not

 

 

Exactly why I'm a Constitutional Monarchist.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

Exactly why I'm a Constitutional Monarchist.

United Kingdom United States Security Agreement

coming to your aid, in your darkest hour

[myata]

Much of the previous century was spent by the enlightened bureaucracy (because no one else here is supposed to think of these matters) in the search of the elusive national identity for the masses. It's amusing in the hindsight:

- National railway. OK every large country had this project and these days with a few exceptions, high speed ones. Hardly identical.

- Achievements in wars of (supposedly) former colonial masters

- Public healthcare (in reality, the country was a late arrival to national social insurance, after many of developed countries)

- Peacekeeping (like so many great African countries)

- Multiculturalism

- And it continues full steam in some vague goodness and self-recrimination for the past form but still needs a contemporary formulation (I'm sure someone is busy trying to come up with one).

All of that instead of realizing the need, talking, discussing and defining a genuine national form of democracy with real distinction and contribution to the world. As many have found out, natural abundance is a tricky gift; it can have, and had laziness; complacency and backwardness on the other side.

Edited September 17, 2022 by myata

[Iceni warrior]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

United Kingdom United States Security Agreement

coming to your aid, in your darkest hour

Yup.

America is like having you as a mate.

Handy to have around in a pub brawl but you wouldn't want to end up just like it. ?

 

[Dougie93]

perhaps the British & British Canadians don't quite understand the Special Relationship

the nature of which, is that America is not going to overthrow your monarchy to impose American freedom

only because we like you, personally

if you were a bunch of Arabs

we'd invade

2 minutes ago, myata said:

Much of the previous century was spent by the enlightened bureaucracy (because no one else here is supposed to think of these matters) in the search of the elusive national identity for the masses. It's amusing in the hindsight:

- National railway. OK every large country had this project and these days with a few exceptions, high speed ones. Hardly identical.

- Achievements in wars of (supposedly) former colonial masters

- Public healthcare (in reality, the country was a late arrival to national social insurance, after many of developed countries)

- Peacekeeping (like so many great African countries)

- Multiculturalism

- And it continues full steam in some vague goodness and guild for the past form but still needs contemporary formulation (I'm sure someone is busy trying to come up with one).

All of that instead of realizing the need, talking, discussing and defining a genuine national form of democracy with real distinction and contribution to the world. As many have found out, natural abundance is a tricky gift; it can have, and had laziness; complacency and backwardness on the other side.

that is all inventions of the Canadian Socialist left

if you are a Conservative Canadian

there is no need for all that Liberal elitist clap trap

 

[Dougie93]

4 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Yup.

America is like having you as a mate.

Handy to have around in a pub brawl but you wouldn't want to end up just like it. ?

well, upon the ascension of Charles III to the throne

I'm having to reevaluate my position

as I would not follow this ridiculous fop over the top into battle

this vacuous Commie sympathizing King is driving me back towards the Declaration of Independence

along with the Democrat Party proxy traitor Justin Trudeau

if you're going to be de facto Democrat Party stooges

then you will go down in flames with them as a consequence

 

 

 

[Iceni warrior]

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

well, upon the ascension of Charles III to the throne

I'm having to reevaluate my position

as I would not follow this ridiculous fop over the top into battle

 

 

 

 

Constitutional Monarchy is the worst form of government.

Apart from all the others.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, Iceni warrior said:

Constitutional Monarchy is the worst form of government.

Apart from all the others.

this Constitutional Monarchy has come for my free speech now

that is the Rubicon

not one step back

[Iceni warrior]

Too much free speech can end up creating Adolf Hitlers or Westboro Baptists.

 

[Dougie93]

Just now, Iceni warrior said:

Too much free speech can end up creating Adolf Hitlers or Westboro Baptists.

 

I would defend the right to be a Nazi or  Zealot

to the threshold of Brandenburg v. Ohio

thus I suppose I cannot be loyal to your tyrannical speech banning Crown anymore

this is how Americans are made in the end, apparently

you've turned your most Loyalist son away, for a totalitarian thought crime regime

Pyrrhic victory at best, methinks

[Iceni warrior]

How about a Westboro Baptist?

Disrupting a fallen soldier's funeral to shout ''God hates f*gs''.

Wouldn't get away with that here.

You can't even call Andrew a pedo during the solemn procession of Her Majesty's casket without being hauled away by the constabulary.

[Dougie93]

14 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

How about a Westboro Baptist?

Disrupting a fallen soldier's funeral to shout ''God hates f*gs''.

Wouldn't get away with that here.

I invite them to shout at my funeral

so essential the right to free speech

that I would welcome it

since as a soldier, I served to defend that freedom, against the Bolsheviks who have subjugated the British Crown

Edited September 17, 2022 by Dougie93

[Iceni warrior]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

I invite them to shout at my funeral

so essential the right to free speech

that I would welcome it

since as a soldier, I served to defend that freedom, against the Bolsheviks who have subjugated the British Crown

Seems like bad form to me.

[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Seems like bad form to me.

I know what happens when Canada is allowed to decide what speech is "acceptable"

I'd take the Westboro Baptists over the rule of Justin Trudeau & the Liberal elites

 

[Dougie93]

17 minutes ago, Iceni warrior said:

Seems like bad form to me.

don't forget that Justin Trudeau and the Liberal elites were funding an organization

with hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars

in the name of Elizabeth Windsor

which preached virulent hatred against the Jews

Justin Trudeau is the Nazi therein, by definition

I simply cannot defend this regime, regardless of the Wesrboro Baptists, who are not the government

Justin Trudeau preaches hatred against YHWH : Christ himself '

not one step back in the face of that

they will have to kill me

Edited September 17, 2022 by Dougie93

[Army Guy]

7 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

If we throw away all out traditions that make us Canada, we will not longer be Canada. We will become a drab, grey stalinist republic. Every constitutional monarch in the world reigns over the most democratic progressive nations around. Japan, Norway, Sweden, the Netherlands, New Zealand, and Canada. OTOH, republics have presidents like Biden, Xi, Putin and Trump. The latter two assumed office with no training or skill. We have a King who has been learning his craft for 60 years. He is intelligent, knowledgeable, and hard working. 

Monarchy is not a popularity contest. Ours is a system that has worked for more than 1500 years, always improving and evolving. Trying to replace the institution is more than stupid and reflects to ignorance of those who would try.

What traditions will we need to get rid of? It is just a name Queen, we have destroyed a lot of those traditions already. And let's be honest here, what do we have right now that keeps us out of the drab, grey, Stalinist republic. 

Just a question how many times you think our PM asked to see the Queen for counsel on important matters. and the GG is basically a ceremonial position, what value does the GG bring. So that 60 years of service and experience will come in where exactly to our nation.

Most of Europe are republics today, with except of a few, most have transitioned to modern republics that has to be telling in some way. 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Europe_2015_monarchies_versus_republics.png

Don't get me wrong Queen , i was once a great support of the Queen i swore my service and life to her. Today opens a door with the Queens passing, to re-invent our country transform to a republic or something similar, it would be a chance to bring Quebec back into the fold via new constitution, a chance to involve first nations into the fold, in exchange for dropping all these promises/ treaties that date back to the way before the birth of the nation. no more classes of Canadian citizens, all one class, with no special privileges. Over all it would allow Canada to re write everything from electoral districts to how we elect PM's the whole shooting match we are limited only by our imaginations.

What is it they say, change is good and should be welcomed, those that do not except change are left behind.

 

 

[Dougie93]

I am told that King Charles III is an Orthodox Christian like his Greek father before him

then why does he not speak out against an obvious Bolshevik traitor like Justin Trudeau ?

the King is said to be God's representative on earth

against the Pope in Rome, Whore of Babylon

against the Communists, who would hang him from the yardarm if they could

against the Fascists who crucified our Lord

if HM requires me,  as an Ulster Scot, to follow him into battle

then he must be loyal to Christ above all

certainly above the atheist Communists & Fascists of the Liberal Party of Canada

don't come crying to me, if I flee from a King who does not defend the right,

to the Americans,  who saved this  Crown in its darkest hour,

against the likes of Adolf Hitler & Justin Trudeau

this is not an absolute monarchy

no fealty to a King who does not defend the right against the forces of darkness

if I ever sing God save the King

it will not be for this ridiculous elitist fop, Charles Wales

only for George V, the People's King

quite sure George V would have despised  Charles Wales

much as he despised his own degenerate son, the Duke of Windsor

go off an be a lying cheating divorcee who panders to the atheist  lunatics

George V would disown you in no tine flat

Edited September 17, 2022 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

you know, quite sure George V would have loved Diana Spencer

the Duke of Edinburgh was a hard man like George V, and he loved Diana Spencer most

both of them were all about saving the monarchy

and Diana Spencer was literally a messianic figure

but no, she wasn't good enough for Charles Wales somehow

everybody on earth loved Diana Spencer

except Charles Wales

because he was jealous of her

what  a useless twit this King is, and always was

even the Queen didn't really like him

Edited September 17, 2022 by Dougie93

[myata]

2 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

that is all inventions of the Canadian Socialist left

Right. Inventions liberal or of non-existent monarchy traditions. Inventions and fog in place of national identity. Sounds great.

[Dougie93]

45 minutes ago, myata said:

Right. Inventions liberal or of non-existent monarchy traditions. Inventions and fog in place of national identity. Sounds great.

you only need a false  Canadian identity if you deny your history

so, there are two types of British North Americans

either you're a Loyalist,

or you're a republican, otherwise known as an "American"

if you deny both of these orgiins

then you are nothing, you have no history

and this is where the phony baloney Liberal Party of Canada government issued fake identity comes from

now christened by Justin Trudeau as the "Post National State"

which is just another way of saying fake country

now as a dual citizen, I am indeed pulled back & forth by my Loyalist & republican roots, which are in conflict

but I'm never a fake country Post National Statean as most Canadians are want to be

and in the end

British Major George Washington is the father of both nations

when he attacks the French at Jumonville Glen on behalf of the Virginia Company

inciting the Seven Years War

on 28 May 1754

Edited September 17, 2022 by Dougie93