First a trickle....Now a flood

[User]

6 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Of course i did. right after you asked the questions 

It's there for you to see, for me to see, for everyone to see.  So what you're really doing is trying to cover the fact you were a lying asswipe who was wrong from minute one but too much of a coward to admit it. 

It's RIGHT THERE.  EVERYTHING you asked got answered, and right away. Till you started asking the same thing over and over despite the fact it had been answered

The gov't did not substantially warn the public of the risk, THey should have, they have not stood behind people who suffered from the shot, they should,  you're a twat, you shouldn't be. 

 THat simple and the rest is you being a crybaby coward instead of facing facts you don't like

Listen, once again, this is your little way to get off, playing this dumb game. 
 

If you want to keep talking, go back to the lengthy post I made where I responded to you and you ignored it. 

[Goddess]

17 minutes ago, User said:

Now you want data and studies? 

No, I just assumed since you're here pretending to be knowledgeable about every vaccine that you would have an opinion based on more than just.......emotion.

My bad.

[User]

Just now, Goddess said:

No, I just assumed since you're here pretending to be knowledgeable about every vaccine that you would have an opinion based on more than just.......emotion.

My bad.

Knowledgable… enough. You want to play this dumb game here where you find some tidbit of information someone doesn’t know to impugn them as being too stupid to talk to or that because I’m not a lifelong immunologist I can’t know anything…

It is one of the dumbest logical fallacies.

 

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

The point I'm making is that we need to assess the benefits of vaccination rationally and objectively, not hysterically and instinctively, as User is doing by having emotional meltdowns when presented with facts, yelling that millions of children would die without them.

 

That was largely my point too. If you want to inspire trust and give people confidence in believing in your recommended course of action you need to be honest. You need to let people know what the real risks are and then why you feel it's worth it.

And you need to stand behind them afterward if there are problems, and spreading hatred about people who don't agree with you is not helping

If you don't do these things then next time more people question and distrust.  it makes things WORSE. 

Just be honest about the risks, and if there are unexpected consequences stand beside people. 

That would have been nothing wrong with saying 'This is still in the development phases and we can't say with certainty what risks there might be but we honestly believe that for most people the risks are lower than the risks they will face from covid itself based on the information we have today. You will have to make your own decisions"

3 minutes ago, User said:

Knowledgable… enough. You want to play this dumb game here where you find some tidbit of information someone doesn’t know to impugn them as being too stupid to talk to or that because I’m not a lifelong immunologist I can’t know anything…

It is one of the dumbest logical fallacies.

 

I think you shamed yourself enough in this thread that you got in any position to criticize any information anyone else brings forward

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, User said:

Knowledgable… enough. You want to play this dumb game here where you find some tidbit of information someone doesn’t know to impugn them as being too stupid to talk to or that because I’m not a lifelong immunologist I can’t know anything…

It is one of the dumbest logical fallacies.

 

Nobody is saying you have to be an immunologist or a virologist or an epidemiologist.

But surely you are basing your decisions on more than just emotional hysteria.

[CdnFox]

8 minutes ago, User said:

Listen, once again, this is your little way to get off, playing this dumb game. \

The only one playing a dumb game is you. It's right there for everyone to see, I can see it you can see it goddess can see it everyone looking at this thread can see it you're being a line sack of shit And I'm not interested in playing appease the liberal for you

Okay any government did not warn its people substantially about the rest. They should have. They have not stood behind people who have suffered as a result. They should have. Every one of your questions was answered above right after you ask them and everyone can see it. You're being a pathetic little liberal snake

Just now, Goddess said:

But surely you are basing your decisions on more than just emotional hysteria.

No he isn't. And stop calling him Shirley

[User]

6 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The only one playing a dumb game is you. It's right there for everyone to see, I can see it you can see it goddess can see it everyone looking at this thread can see it you're being a line sack of shit And I'm not interested in playing appease the liberal for you

Okay any government did not warn its people substantially about the rest. They should have. They have not stood behind people who have suffered as a result. They should have. Every one of your questions was answered above right after you ask them and everyone can see it. You're being a pathetic little liberal snake

Here you go, feel free to actually read it this time and respond:

 

7 hours ago, Goddess said:

Nobody is saying you have to be an immunologist or a virologist or an epidemiologist.

But surely you are basing your decisions on more than just emotional hysteria.

Where did you get my decision was based on emotional hysteria?

So... what vaccines do you support?

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, User said:

Here you go, feel free to actually read it this time and respond:

 

Where did you get my decision was based on emotional hysteria?

 

The part where you lied about this being the first time I answered the question definitely suggests that you're being emotionally hysterical.

The scrolling up in the thread it's easy to see that there were numerous times I answered those questions earlier. You're inability to cope with that and you're fraudulent attempts to suggest otherwise indicate that your response is being driven by emotion rather than logic and yet the tenacity to which you stick to an obvious lie in the obvious defiance of reality suggests that it's hysterical

You're a lying sack of shit and quite frankly I think we're all laughing at your efforts to try and dodge that right now

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So... what vaccines do you support?

I don't particularly support or not support any vaccine. Like I told you I actually took the code vaccine and got boosted. I got all my vaccines as a kid, and now due to age I take a shingles vaccine. I really have no particular opinion one way or another on any of the other vaccines, I don't give them any thoughts

Again the issue here isn't being a pro or against the covid vaccine. The issue here is the government was dishonest about the risks, and then failed to stand behind people when they suffer the ill effects. And that if we want people to be trusting a vaccines in the future that's a really bad idea.

An emotionally stable 5-year-old would argue with that.

[Goddess]

In the late '70s and early '80's, Pharma was being sued into oblivion by parents whose children experienced severe adverse reactions to childhood vaccinations.

In those years, there was a steady stream of news programs about the issue (like the clip below) - we were actually allowed to discuss the benefits/risks and demand safety studies be done.  Real safety studies.

So vaccine manufacturers went to the government and said, "If you don't give us legal immunity and stop these parents, we will quit making vaccines."

Thus, in 1986, they were granted legal immunity from prosecution for child deaths and vaccine injuries became taboo to talk about and parents who did, were painted as insane.

All the studies that had been commissioned and demanded regarding the safety and efficacy of the childhood schedule were scrapped.  It didn't matter now whether they were safe or not. And Pharma could then balloon the childhood schedule.  Government authorized shots were now huge moneymakers for Pharma and HOORAY!  No pesky lawsuits from parents with dead kids.  

 

Most people are SHOCKED when they learn how little these 80-some shots given to babies are studied and safety evaluated.

[User]

13 hours ago, CdnFox said:

The part where

Yeah yeah yeah, you accuse me of lying every post. I get it. You can’t back that up, so go respond to my comment you mostly ignored. 

[User]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

Most people are SHOCKED when they learn how little these 80-some shots given to babies are studied and safety evaluated.

“Babies” are not given 80 some shots…

Which ones and how many do you support? 

 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, User said:

Yeah yeah yeah, you accuse me of lying every post.

Yeah that's a funny thing about the truth, it doesn't really change much. Every post you lie about the truth and I point out your lying

Your questions were answered in full right after you ask them each and every time till I eventually got sick of answering the same questions and called you on it.

Run away little boy, the adults are talking

[User]

2 hours ago, CdnFox said:

Yeah that's a funny thing about the truth, it doesn't really change much. Every post you lie about the truth and I point out your lying

Your questions were answered in full right after you ask them each and every time till I eventually got sick of answering the same questions and called you on it.

Run away little boy, the adults are talking

Yes, you keep making the accusation.

You were the one who admitted to running away from most of my comment before.  

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, User said:

Yes, you keep making the accusation.

 

No I keep demonstrating the fact. Everybody can look back in the thread and see that when you ask the questions it was answered and multiple times in many cases. The answers were made the same throughout the entire interaction. The government did not substantially advise the publicist the danger, they downplayed it and in your comparison suggested it was similar to other vaccines which is absolutely not true and they were aware of that at the time, they have not stood behind people who have become affected as proven by the newspaper story I started this with, they should.

Simple facts easily proven within this thread. And no matter how many times I answered your question you kept saying that it hadn't been answered so you're an absolute lying little piece of shit

Those are facts kid. It's not an accusation it's an observation of the facts which everyone can look at above.

You let your emotions get the better of you and make you stupid. You should be deeply ashamed of that and do better in the future

[User]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

13 hours ago, User said:

 

No I keep demonstrating the fact.

No, you don’t. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, User said:

No, you don’t. 

Of course I do and it's there for everyone to see. You ask the questions, you got answers immediately, you ask the questions again, you immediately get answers again, and on we go until eventually I point out that you're being a liberal piece of trash.

Sorry kiddo. I know you don't like to lose but this was entirely your fault. I made an easily verified statement and you let your emotions cloud your judgment and you behave with all the intellectual capability of robosmith. Be ashamed

[User]

18 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You ask the questions, you got answers immediately

Nope. Once again, go back to the comment you mostly ignored. 

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, User said:

Nope. Once again, go back to the comment you mostly ignored. 

What are you gonna do, call the cops? 🤣

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, User said:

Nope. Once again, go back to the comment you mostly ignored. 

Yep. Once again go back and read the thread coward. 

[User]

1 hour ago, CdnFox said:

Yep. Once again go back and read the thread coward. 

Which part and to what point?

You are the one who admitted to ignoring most of my comments 

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

What are you gonna do, call the cops? 🤣

What vaccines do you support?