Faramir Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/29/2022 at 1:44 PM, Michael Hardner said: I also know this. People with open minds can talk to others with open minds and have a nice conversation, or they can talk to lamp-posts, retarded dogs, or brainwashed MLW zealots who call anybody who isn't a Trump a Communist. How bored are you in Northern BC exactly ? You could always read the back of your Quaker Oats box... you already think climate change is for real. When do YOU have an open mind? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 4 minutes ago, Faramir said: It IS a joke. No one has proven that it is even man made. Why is showing skepticism a joke? The nature of climate science is that theories can't be 100% proven. It's not mathematics... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
Michael Hardner Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Faramir said: you already think climate change is for real. When do YOU have an open mind? Having an open mind doesn't mean you can't come to a conclusion and be convinced one way or the other. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
myata Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Posted January 31, 2022 It this happened in one of the democratic countries, with a respected news service there would be questions asked, many of them: who expressed concerns? What are they supported by, what evidence? Is there any evidence to support expressed concerns? And if there's no evidence, are you just saying it, performing as a "journalist" on a public channel? Not here, no. No questions. Zero answers. Total silence. Does it mean that you can say just about anything, if and when on a public channel? I don't know anymore. Do you? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Faramir Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, myata said: It this happened in one of the democratic countries, with a respected news service there would be questions asked, many of them: who expressed concerns? What are they supported by, what evidence? Is there any evidence to support expressed concerns? And if there's no evidence, are you just saying it, performing as a "journalist" on a public channel? Not here, no. No questions. Zero answers. Total silence. Does it mean that you can say just about anything, if and when on a public channel? I don't know anymore. Do you? Polls show Canadians are fools. Even CS Lewis wrote, back in the day, the English do not believe their newsapers, except the sports and weather. Maclean had a poll a decade back where it showed 70% trust the media in Canada. Compare that to 15% of the USA that has a good regard for the media. Quote
eyeball Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 6 minutes ago, Faramir said: Proud Boys is an anti-ANTIFA terrorist group. They go to events to stop the violence perpetuated by white liberals of ANTIFA. Well, Aljazeera reports that four of them are being charged for attending the event on Jan. 6th and another one who even pleaded guilty to storming the Capitol with two other members of the far-right group. They didn't mention anything about white liberals or ANTIFA. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/28/proud-boys-members-must-face-january-6-charges-us-judge-rules BTW any links to reports of charges against members of ANTIFA stemming from the tour, event or festivities...whatever you want to call it? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Faramir Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, eyeball said: Well, Aljazeera reports that four of them are being charged for attending the event on Jan. 6th and another one who even pleaded guilty to storming the Capitol with two other members of the far-right group. They didn't mention anything about white liberals or ANTIFA. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/12/28/proud-boys-members-must-face-january-6-charges-us-judge-rules BTW any links to reports of charges against members of ANTIFA stemming from the tour, event or festivities...whatever you want to call it? I'm sorry for laughing, but you are quoting gentile hating Al Jazeera? As for the Jam 6 events it was a counter-coup against a stolen election. In any case it should be an annual event to storm congress and put a little fear into these villains. Quote
eyeball Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, Faramir said: I'm sorry for laughing, but you are quoting gentile hating Al Jazeera? I thought you'd like that. Meanwhile feel free to post evidence that they're wrong. Quote As for the Jam 6 events it was a counter-coup against a stolen election. In any case it should be an annual event to storm congress and put a little fear into these villains. I'm not sorry for laughing at all that you believe this hooey. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
myata Posted January 31, 2022 Author Report Posted January 31, 2022 Between media that's edging on a very thin line from what is called, in a common language, l-ying and folks carried away by outlandish claims and agendas, is there a good middle ground? Is it better to take on its word because no evidence given, misinforming state run media than spin off to conspiracies? I do not know what is better here anymore. Any clues? Help, anybody? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Faramir Posted January 31, 2022 Report Posted January 31, 2022 7 minutes ago, myata said: Between media that's edging on a very thin line from what is called, in a common language, l-ying and folks carried away by outlandish claims and agendas, is there a good middle ground? Is it better to take on its word because no evidence given, misinforming state run media than spin off to conspiracies? I do not know what is better here anymore. Any clues? Help, anybody? We are in a very dangerous place right now I don't think we recover from. Most likely a collapse of the West. And a new world order centered around China. For middle ground there needs to be some honesty from the left. For instance the left was against slave shops at one time. But then why are they so pro China these days? 1 Quote
myata Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Posted February 1, 2022 Who "expressed concerns"? What is the evidence? Can anything be said and stated on Canada's public media? Do we have independent and objective public media? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Posted February 1, 2022 "Some local businesses cannot operate with the ongoing trucker protest". Top story on public broadcaster paid for by our money out of our pockets. Looks like there's a new cause to rally and a new reason for all problems and failures in the country. Forget Covid (for now). Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted February 1, 2022 Author Report Posted February 1, 2022 I've heard an ex...rt"" recommend wearing mask outside no qualifications. Publicly, on a TV channel. I've seen folks on an empty path following recommendations. Who are they protecting? How? What is the evidence that it's doing anything to protect? Is it information or total torpedoing, nuking common sense and credibility? No, they set this standard, I can't care less for what and with which intents. Yes it seems very much like you can say pretty much anything with no checks, common sense, objectivity and forget evidence. There's no one else to blame here. Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
myata Posted February 2, 2022 Author Report Posted February 2, 2022 Who expressed concerns of Russian instigation? What is the evidence? Can about anything be said on the country's public channels without substance and evidence? Do we have free independent media in the country? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Faramir Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, myata said: Who expressed concerns of Russian instigation? What is the evidence? Can about anything be said on the country's public channels without substance and evidence? Do we have free independent media in the country? It was a fiction started by Hillary Clinton to "explain" her loss to Trump in 2016. Since then the media act like they have marching orders to see a bad Russian behind anything you can't fully explain. Probably a mixture of laziness (journalists don't bother fact checking anymore), and pushing an agenda (bad Russians). Quote
myata Posted February 2, 2022 Author Report Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) Russia's interference and aggression is as bad as it looks. But can we connect all that is wrong (from the government's point of view) or unproductive, etc directly to it, just because just like restrictions, lockdowns and requirements no explanations or evidence needed? Is it that easy now? Is it what's called "journalism" these days? Edited February 2, 2022 by myata Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
Faramir Posted February 2, 2022 Report Posted February 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, myata said: Russia's interference and aggression is as bad as it looks. But can we connect all that is wrong (from the government's point of view) or unproductive, etc directly to it, just because just like restrictions, lockdowns and requirements no explanations or evidence needed? Is it that easy now? Is it what's called "journalism" these days? Russia's interference is small potatoes compared to China. What did so called conservative Bush do in 2004 when they found out they had a Chinese spy in the FBI leaking naval technology? Not a damn thing. All about the money. Russia has none. China has plenty. If we ever talk about changing our wife beating relationship with China, I will take criticism of Russia more seriously. Point is Russia is a faithless actor on the world stage. So what. There are plenty of bad actors we get along with. Quote
myata Posted February 3, 2022 Author Report Posted February 3, 2022 Who expressed concerns of Russian instigation of protest? What is the evidence? Can about anything be said publicly these days on Canadian public media if it follows the desirable agenda? How is it different from Iran and China? Is it different, already? Quote If it's you or them, the truth is equidistant
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