Trudeau gave $830,000 for COVID-19 research to the same Wuhan virus laboratory suspected of kicking off the pandemic

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

It's a matter of knowing not believing.

Sure, but would you give a million dollars if you didn't know either way?

Western relations towards China are an utter failure of foreign policy.  We should have put them in their place decades ago when we started drastically increasing trade with them.  You don't follow the rules, you don't get trade.  We beat the USSR and then immediately let China walk in the front door!

 

[eyeball]

45 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

The OP title doesn't say the virus came from the Wuhan lab, it says it is suspect. 

Yes I realize that and also that it's suspected as being the source, I wouldn't doubt it is in fact the source and never said I did. The most I can be construed as saying is so what? In any case did you notice or ignore where the OP title does say Trudeau gave it $830,000.00?

[eyeball]

45 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2020/03/government-of-canada-invests-27m-in-coronavirus-research--details-of-the-funded-projects.html

Where does it say what the thread title says?  Is this a case of Trudeau insisting his name be on the cheque or something? Because that would definitely merit a ffs too.

You people seem to be suggesting that Trudeau sent a cheque or a direct deposit to the Wuhan Institute of Virology's bank account and left it up to them to distribute the funds to the multi-disciplinary team of virologists, chemists, infectious disease specialists, front-line practitioners, and public health researchers from the University of Alberta, Canadian Food Inspection Agency and of course themselves.

I'm betting it was the other way around. 

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Yes I realize that and also that it's suspected as being the source, I wouldn't doubt it is in fact the source and never said I did. The most I can be construed as saying is so what?

So what?  Why are we giving money to research being done at the site of the potential source of this outbreak that has killed so many?

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 In any case did you notice or ignore where the OP title does say Trudeau gave it $830,000.00?

That's exactly what has happened.

I also wouldn't support if William Lyon Mackenzie King's gov gave research money to Stalin's USSR or Nazi Germany.

[Moonlight Graham]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Where does it say what the thread title says?  Is this a case of Trudeau insisting his name be on the cheque or something? Because that would definitely merit a ffs too.

You people seem to be suggesting that Trudeau sent a cheque or a direct deposit to the Wuhan Institute of Virology's bank account and left it up to them to distribute the funds to the multi-disciplinary team of virologists, chemists, infectious disease specialists, front-line practitioners, and public health researchers from the University of Alberta, Canadian Food Inspection Agency and of course themselves.

I'm betting it was the other way around. 

"You people" LOL.  Now you're throwing people into boxes and stereotypes.  It's "us vs them", eh?

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Never turn your back on me
Never turn your back on me again
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Here by my side you are destruction
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Never turn your back on it
Never turn your back on it again
Here by my side it's heaven

Careful, you be careful
This is where the world drops off
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And you breathe in and you breath out for it
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And you give in and you give out for it
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[Tdot]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

...Are you stupider than numbnutz or something?  

lol

Nobody here is stupider than, you, as you attempt to pretend that the actual dollar amount even matters ---instead of the fact that Canada spent any $$$ whatsoever, to the support the horrid lab.

Maybe you should PM the 'mental crisis' hotline if your loony brain thinks the real issue here is how much money Canada exactly sent to a genocidal lab in China.

Edited April 18, 2020 by Tdot

[eyeball]

40 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said:

So what?  Why are we giving money to research being done at the site of the potential source of this outbreak that has killed so many?

That's exactly what has happened.

Has as in past tense....months ago... in the complete absence of the controversy now swirling around it in other words.

It's like I said above every time you people explain things it always looks like a conspiracy theorist's big board plastered with photos, newspaper clippings, pictures, maps and post-it notes all tied together with strings and big red sharpie arrows.

I also wouldn't support if William Lyon Mackenzie King's gov gave research money to Stalin's USSR or Nazi Germany.

Who would in the clarity of time and hindsight and the more time the better..if you catch my drift. 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

https://www.canada.ca/en/institutes-health-research/news/2020/03/government-of-canada-invests-27m-in-coronavirus-research--details-of-the-funded-projects.html

Okay...Care to show me where it says verbatim that Ottawa actually sent a cheque for $830,000.00 to the lab in Wuhan?

Tell you what just go put in a FOI request and produce a copy of the cancelled cheque, otherwise POAQWMT.

Edited April 18, 2020 by eyeball

[Moonlight Graham]

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Has as in past tense....months ago... in the complete absence of the controversy now swirling around it in other words.

Dougie had it pegged pretty early about the coincidence of the Wuhan origin of the virus and China's national virus research lab in Wuhan.  He's just a dude on a stupid message board, don't you think CSIS, the defense establishment, or anyone smart around the PM might be sniffing that possible trail in February?????

2 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Who would in the clarity of time and hindsight and the more time the better..if you catch my drift. 

History is happening right now.  Are we going to be Neville Chamberlain or Winston Churchill?  Looks like Chamberlain so far for Canada...

[Moonlight Graham]

8 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Okay...Care to show me where it says verbatim that Ottawa actually sent a cheque for $830,000.00 to the lab in Wuhan?

Tell you what just go put in a FOI request and produce a copy of the cancelled cheque, otherwise POAQWMT.

Now you want receipts???  Lol.

[Guest ProudConservative]

I can't stand Trudeau. Trump knows the WHO has sold out to China, and now Trudeau is trying to tell Trump that he should pay his fair share. Trudeau is acting like China's bitch again.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Tdot said:

lol

Nobody here is stupider than, you, as you attempt to pretend that the actual dollar amount even matters ---instead of the fact that Canada spent any $$$ whatsoever, to the support the horrid lab.

Maybe you should PM the 'mental crisis' hotline if your loony brain thinks the real issue here is how much money Canada exactly sent to a genocidal lab in China.

Maybe you should piss up a rope until you come to terms with when Canada sent it.

It wouldn't have mattered if we'd sent $10,000,000.00 unless we'd sent it a couple of days ago then you'd probably have a good case but we didn't so you don't. That's what makes this thread and the people supporting its premise so ridiculous, take heart though you're all in the same boat.

 

Edited April 18, 2020 by eyeball

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Dougie had it pegged pretty early about the coincidence of the Wuhan origin of the virus and China's national virus research lab in Wuhan.  He's just a dude on a stupid message board, don't you think CSIS, the defense establishment, or anyone smart around the PM might be sniffing that possible trail in February?????

I think it's likelier that smarter people had already sniffed out the potential for "a cataclysm" back in November and western leaders who should have been better prepared dropped a far more potentially incriminating ball that's bouncing around their/our court.

Good for Dougie. I'm just a dude on the Internet too and I wrote years ago that we wouldn't be able to cooperate our way out of a wet paper bag never mind a global crisis if our lives depended on it.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Now you want receipts???  Lol.

I want evidence. Lol.

[WestCanMan]

15 hours ago, eyeball said:

WTF does it say about your thread that Donald Trump sent China $100,000,000.00 a week before Trudeau sent a measly $830,000.00?

Maybe B_C 2007 knows. 

I'm not beefing against fighting covid, just the fact that we're spending money on the actual lab where the Chinese gov't cooks up their bio-weapons. 

Did you see me complain about the tonnes of medical equipment that we gifted China to fight the virus? 

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The collaborative research is conducted by a multi-disciplinary team of virologists, chemists, infectious disease specialists, front-line practitioners, and public health researchers from the University of Alberta, Canadian Food Inspection Agency, and Wuhan Institute of Virology (China).  The immediate priority focuses on developing two complementary techniques to be performed on-site and in resource-limited settings, in support of rapid diagnosis of COVID-19. The diagnostic innovation takes advantage of the most recent advances in chemistry, molecular biology, genome technology, and nanotechnology. Chemical reactions required for efficient amplification and sensitive detection of the viral RNA take place in a single tube at a moderate temperature, simplifying the operation procedures. 

Why do we let China get involved with our tech at the highest levels? https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/norsat-justin-trudeau-china-1.4179538 

Why are we letting Huaweii build our 5G network? https://business.financialpost.com/technology/political-pressure-mounts-as-ottawa-moves-closer-to-5g-decision-on-huawei

Helping China fight the virus, and constantly giving them access to the highest level of our tech in every field are two completely different things. 

[eyeball]

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

...we're spending money on the actual lab where the Chinese gov't cooks up their bio-weapons. 

So is Trump who spent more and sooner. How do you explain that?

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, eyeball said:

So is Trump who spent more and sooner. How do you explain that?

The US sent aid through existing funds and multilateral organizations to help fight covid. https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/482096-us-pledges-100-million-to-help-fight-coronavirus  

Top Canadian virologists went to China's top BSL4 lab to train and do research with them. 

Can you show me where Trump sent his medical teams to train Chinese virologists at the highest level? 

This is like the ME, where the US fought islamic state while Canadian commandos trained the PPK, whom the Turks regard as terrorists.

At every level it seems like Canada is eager to just give away our knowledge and expertise to people who shouldn't be trusted. 

 

[eyeball]

18 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The US sent aid through existing funds and multilateral organizations to help fight covid.

Just like the government of Canada according to its website.

Except you specifically said Trudeau sent $830,000.00 to the lab itself and that's just pure horse shit.

[dialamah]

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The US sent aid through existing funds and multilateral organizations to help fight covid. https://thehill.com/changing-america/well-being/prevention-cures/482096-us-pledges-100-million-to-help-fight-coronavirus  

That seems to be what Canada has done as well according to the website link you posted; why is 'bad' if Canada does it, but 'good' if the US does it?  Could it be your .... bias?

[WestCanMan]

7 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Just like the government of Canada according to its website.

Except you specifically said Trudeau sent $830,000.00 to the lab itself and that's just pure horse shit.

Read what I wrote eyeball. I have all the specifics accurately catalogued in this thread, as per the C-Gov website. 

Liar.

[WestCanMan]

6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

That seems to be what Canada has done as well according to the website link you posted; why is 'bad' if Canada does it, but 'good' if the US does it?  Could it be your .... bias?

Either you didn't read it or you don't understand it, neither surprises me.