Andrew Scheer needs to go.

[Dougie93]

Just now, PPC2019 said:

I call myself a progressive though, I believe in progress. So what better word should I use.

I'm also not a winner takes all capitalist.... I do think if a company is doing well, more of their profits should go towards the workers that helped make that company successful.

I got a problem with an executive making 100 times more than an employee on the assembly line.

A pox on all reformers.

Market Capitalism is not winner take all, dividends are distributed widely by the winners.

Workers have the leverage that they have, the state should not put its finger on the scale, the unintended consequence is moral hazard which will bring the workers down too.

I have no problem with the market finding the price of things, your 'progessivism' is an anathema to me, thus I shall have to oppose you.

[Guest PPC2019]

4 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

A pox on all reformers.

Market Capitalism is not winner take all, dividends are distributed widely by the winners.

Workers have the leverage that they have, the state should not put its finger on the scale, the unintended consequence is moral hazard which will bring the workers down too.

I have no problem with the market finding the price of things, your 'progessivism' is an anathema to me, thus I shall have to oppose you.

I have a problem with billionaires sitting on yachts, while they feed children rice in Bangladesh to make sweaters at 25 cents an hour, while they go and sell it to us for $50. When conservatives defend billionaires letting their factory workers stave.... they lose elections.

Edited November 8, 2019 by PPC2019

[Dougie93]

Just now, PPC2019 said:

I have a problem with billionaires sitting on yachts, while they feed children rice in Bangladesh to make sweaters at 25 cents an hour, while they go and sell it to us for 50. When conservatives defend billionaires letting their factory workers stave.... they lose elections.

Elections are shams.  Money talks and bullshit walks.

[taxme]

40 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

I know Trent professors were telling their students to vote liberal, because the greens didn't stand a chance... They organized a huge get out to vote campaign in support of Monsef, because they wanted to stick it to Andrew Scheer for wanting to cancel the carbon tax. I was watching the CBC coverage, and Trent university was basically banging how they were brainwashing their students in favor of Justin's re-election.

Trent University also had a huge role in the Climate Strike. They basically took over Peterborough, which has a lot of conservative business owners.

Our tax funded professors are breaking the law, when they tell their students who to vote for... But no consequences will come from the Trudeau government.

Trudeau should now be called the new "Teflon Don" of Canada, and take away that title from mafia mobster John Gotti. It took many years before the American government was able to get Gotti on some crime that he committed, and Gotti ended up getting life in prison. I guess that we can only hope that maybe one day, "Teflon Don" Trudeau will pay for his crimes against the Canadian people, and end up going to jail. I think that it is safe to say that good luck on that one. Trudeau commits crimes in Canada and gets voted back into power again. Go figure, eh? 

Only in Canada you say? PITY!  LOL. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest PPC2019]

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Elections are shams.  Money talks and bullshit walks.

Income inequality is the invisible hand that makes capitalism great, but it has to be reasonable.

If a boss makes 10 times more than their average employee, I can defend that... It inspires innovation and hard work. If a boss makes 1000 times more, then I get a little worried.

Why can't we have a wage system, like we do with taxes?

Why can't all the workers get a share of the profits, when a companies does well?

Wouldn't that be an incentive hard work?

 

I rather abolish Tax the rich philosophy, and make it.... have the rich send some of that money back to their employees.

That way the employees get the money, instead of the government.

[Guest PPC2019]

Should we move away from the university system. Should the world invest in decentralized education that would protect us from manipulation or censorship?

[taxme]

36 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

There is barely anything on twitter. I think Bernier is looking for a quiet exit, but I would get behind some of his candidates. I really liked Frank Vaughan who is just south of Peterborough, but I don't see him running again. Anyways.... why shouldn't we pass the idea around to start a new party... I don't even care if the party wins.... I just like voting for someone I believe in...

I don't care if i'm splitting the vote... I love sending a message.

I'll vote for whatever party makes fiscal-responsibility their first priority.

 

To be honest... i'm a little annoyed at the PPC. They're acting like sore losers.... They didn't expect win, but they participated in a greater movement to wakeup Canadians.

If there is nothing better than the PPC, i'll vote for the PPC... but I don't want a party that says lets balance the budget in 10 years.... I want a party that develops a plan to pay off most of Canada's debt before the next century.

We will also need a bigger fence to keep the American's out when they have their sovereign debt crisis. America is a ticking time-bomb... maybe we should develop an emergency plan, if America collapses.

If America collapses, Canada collapses. Canadians rely too much on America for it's business dealings and jobs for Canadians, and have too much money invested in America. No matter what happens in the world, Canada is not prepared for any monetary disaster. All Canadians will then have to run to Elizabeth May to get her to show them all as to how to go about living in the bush. All those animals out there better find a good hiding place fast because you are surely going to end up being barbequed over an open fire pit if we catch you. I will be a Canadian here, and say that I am sorry, but we were left with no other choice but to hunt you down and eat you. I have kids too. Lol. 

[Guest PPC2019]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

If America collapses, Canada collapses. Canadians rely too much on America for it's business dealings and jobs for Canadians, and have too much money invested in America. No matter what happens in the world, Canada is not prepared for any monetary disaster. All Canadians will then have to run to Elizabeth May to get her to show them all as to how to go about living in the bush. All those animals out there better find a good hiding place fast because you are surely going to end up being barbequed over an open fire pit if we catch you. I will be a Canadian here, and say that I am sorry, but we were left with no other choice but to hunt you down and eat you. I have kids too. Lol. 

I thought ya said you had grand kids once. If so, are they liberal, or are ya able to get through to them?

[Guest PPC2019]

America is going to collapse... It's 23 Trillion in debt, and not even Trump is willing to stop the Trillion dollar deficits. 

I would give it 15 or 20 years tops, until you see the next great depression. Canada should prepare now, we should develop an internal economy that's can be modified quickly when the world's financial system collapses.

[Dougie93]

17 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Income inequality is the invisible hand that makes capitalism great, but it has to be reasonable.

If a boss makes 10 times more than their average employee, I can defend that... It inspires innovation and hard work. If a boss makes 1000 times more, then I get a little worried.

Why can't we have a wage system, like we do with taxes?

Why can't all the workers get a share of the profits, when a companies does well?

Wouldn't that be an incentive hard work?

 

I rather abolish Tax the rich philosophy, and make it.... have the rich send some of that money back to their employees.

That way the employees get the money, instead of the government.

The inequality is being intensified by misguided reformers already, they mess with it, and the rich  do even better, because the rich have control of the levers of government.

[Guest PPC2019]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

The inequality is being intensified by misguided reformers already, they mess with it, and the rich  do even better, because the rich have control of the levers of government.

Well capitalism is natural income inequality, so what we need to be concerned about is unacceptable levels of income inequality.

I kind of want to get rid of the wage system, and go with a system, where everyone gets a percentage of the profits.... Then we have a debate over what percentage is acceptable.

[Guest PPC2019]

My problem with minimum wages is.... A large corporation may be able to pay a higher wage, but what happens to struggling businesses?

Shouldn't struggling businesses be able to hire more unskilled employees at a lower wage?

A high minimum wage makes it hard for people with disabilities and mental illness to find work.

[Dougie93]

10 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Well capitalism is natural income inequality, so what we need to be concerned about is unacceptable levels of income inequality.

I kind of want to get rid of the wage system, and go with a system, where everyone gets a percentage of the profits.... Then we have a debate over what percentage is acceptable.

Whatever, I don't want to argue about it, there's no room for debate, I'm only interested in power.

[Guest PPC2019]

1 minute ago, Dougie93 said:

Whatever, I don't want to argue about it, there's no room for debate, I'm only interested in power.

Well conservatives are getting killed, because we don't have a plan to deal with income inequality. 

Conservatives don't talk about the homeless, or protecting people with disabilities.

We do need to bring out a progressive alternative, or will never expand our base.

[Dougie93]

1 minute ago, PPC2019 said:

Well conservatives are getting killed, because we don't have a plan to deal with income inequality. 

Conservatives don't talk about the homeless, or protecting people with disabilities.

We do need to bring out a progressive alternative, or will never expand our base.

Like I said, I'm not interested in elections, elections are shams, I'm only interested in power, so I vote with my capital and I vote with my feet.

[Guest PPC2019]

7 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Like I said, I'm not interested in elections, elections are shams, I'm only interested in power, so I vote with my capital and I vote with my feet.

Elections come and go, but cultural-maxims remains. We need a progressive alternative, or socialism will take over. It's time for conservatives to care more about the little guy.

If we don't distinguish ourselves from the winner-takes-all capitalists, we'll fail big time.

Edited November 8, 2019 by PPC2019

[Argus]

51 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

I have a problem with billionaires sitting on yachts, while they feed children rice in Bangladesh to make sweaters at 25 cents an hour, while they go and sell it to us for $50. When conservatives defend billionaires letting their factory workers stave.... they lose elections.

And when Socialists take away the yachts and big houses and most of the money EVERYONE is poor. It's not like you can milk the cow after you kill it. Capitalism provides the incentive for people to work hard, to innovate, to take risks. I agree that that tax codes need to be adjusted because they've got too many loopholes in them. But let's not kid ourselves that sweeping away the billionaires is going to make anyone's life better. Those kids making sweaters in Bangladesh do so because there's nothing better. Take it away, bring the jobs back here, and the sweaters will cost four or five times more. Same goes for everything from toasters to air conditioners.

You know, when the AC units were built here poor and lower middle class folks couldn't afford them. Now they're made in China and cost like a hundred bucks and almost everyone can afford one. Improving workers pay often hurts people in other ways as it makes everything else cost more.

[Argus]

10 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Well conservatives are getting killed, because we don't have a plan to deal with income inequality. 

According to a report from the parliamentary budget officer back in, I think it was 2014, income inequality stopped growing in Canada in 2006, the year Stephen Harper was elected, and then began to reverse itself, largely due to income tax changes made by the Tories.

10 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Conservatives don't talk about the homeless, or protecting people with disabilities.

The homeless are homeless because they have addiction and mental health issues. You can't get them off the streets unless you force them off and lock them in institutions.

 

[Guest PPC2019]

2 minutes ago, Argus said:

According to a report from the parliamentary budget officer back in, I think it was 2014, income inequality stopped growing in Canada in 2006, the year Stephen Harper was elected, and then began to reverse itself, largely due to income tax changes made by the Tories.

The homeless are homeless because they have addiction and mental health issues. You can't get them off the streets unless you force them off and lock them in institutions.

 

I know a lot of homeless who have applied to work at Shoppers Drug Mart, Asking to be waiters in restaurants, wanting to get something entry in Walmart...

You know why they can't get hired, because the person hiring them doesn't want someone who has a potential mental illness working.

There attitude is, why am I going to bother with you... You have a sketchy past.

When government orders them to pay $14 an hour, they will go for the part time university student.

 

The homeless are pretty pissed off with the discrimination, and say.... ya know what.... I rather beg for money... they go through that brutal rejection again for the 20th time.

[Guest PPC2019]

You won't hear Justin Trudeau talking about helping the homeless either.... To him it's all about helping the "Middle Class" get ahead.... Middle class, really means snobby people from the suburbs.

You will Justin Trudeau prancing around at a pride parade... You won't see him showing up at a shelter.

Edited November 8, 2019 by PPC2019

[Dougie93]

23 minutes ago, PPC2019 said:

Elections come and go, but cultural-maxims remains. We need a progressive alternative, or socialism will take over. It's time for conservatives to care more about the little guy.

If we don't distinguish ourselves from the winner-takes-all capitalists, we'll fail big time.

Like I said, I'm not interested in arguing about it, all disputes must be settled by force in the end, in this case,  I shall join those who employ market forces.

[Nefarious Banana]

4 hours ago, taxme said:

If America collapses, Canada collapses. Canadians rely too much on America for it's business dealings and jobs for Canadians, and have too much money invested in America. No matter what happens in the world, Canada is not prepared for any monetary disaster. All Canadians will then have to run to Elizabeth May to get her to show them all as to how to go about living in the bush. All those animals out there better find a good hiding place fast because you are surely going to end up being barbequed over an open fire pit if we catch you. I will be a Canadian here, and say that I am sorry, but we were left with no other choice but to hunt you down and eat you. I have kids too. Lol. 

Most game animals will be safe . . . . . there'll be no guns.  Folks will be eating leaves like the moose do.  Don't eat the big leaves . . . . . you'll need them for ass-wipe.

This country is fk'd

[Dougie93]

2 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Most game animals will be safe . . . . . there'll be no guns.  Folks will be eating leaves like the moose do.  Don't eat the big leaves . . . . . you'll need them for ass-wipe.

This country is fk'd

Canada is simply Confederation.   Confederation is simply an agreement.

Canada is not the rocks, Canada is not the trees, Canada is neither the sun nor the moon nor the rain.

Big Blue & White Machine rolls on without it.

Life is Sweet.

Don't Panic.

[Yzermandius19]

7 hours ago, PPC2019 said:

Well capitalism is natural income inequality, so what we need to be concerned about is unacceptable levels of income inequality.

I kind of want to get rid of the wage system, and go with a system, where everyone gets a percentage of the profits.... Then we have a debate over what percentage is acceptable.

Nothing is stopping workers for purchasing their companies stocks, getting rid of an arrangement that workers like and voluntarily agree to, in the name of protecting them is folly.

If companies want to offer their employee's shares of the company as part of their compensation, they are free to do so. Stop trying to ban choices you wouldn't personally make and force people to have less choices. You aren't helping, you are just claiming to stand for them, while you seek to penalize them because you think you know what's best for them, and they and their employers aren't allowed to make the choice for themselves.

Your proposal will not reduce income inequality, it will increase it, all you are doing is punishing people for making choices you disapprove of, in order to try and force them to make choices you do approve of. All cost, no benefit, go back to the drawing board.

Edited November 9, 2019 by Yzermandius19

[Nefarious Banana]

17 hours ago, PPC2019 said:

Well capitalism is natural income inequality, so what we need to be concerned about is unacceptable levels of income inequality.

I kind of want to get rid of the wage system, and go with a system, where everyone gets a percentage of the profits.... Then we have a debate over what percentage is acceptable.

"percentage of profits...."         Assuming that a "percentage of losses" would be included in your utopian plan ?