Dougie93 Posted September 27, 2019 Report Share Posted September 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: F*ck Antifa. Y'all are the violent ones, quit projecting on everyone else. As the right wing counter culture, I don't see any need to confront them, money talks and bullshit walks. When the consequences of their nonsense comes crashing down on the masses, that will be the time to pounce. In the meantime, just feed them rope to hang themselves with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Dougie93 said: As the right wing counter culture, I don't see any need to confront them, money talks and bullshit walks. When the consequences of their nonsense comes crashing down on the masses, that will be the time to pounce. In the meantime, just feed them rope to hang themselves with. When it's time to pounce, I for one will slurp up them Antifa tears. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted September 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) On 9/23/2019 at 8:10 PM, Yzermandius19 said: You don't have to listen, but that doesn't give you the right to prevent other people from listening. Nobody goes to listen to white supremacists. Edited September 28, 2019 by jacee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, jacee said: Nobody goes to listen to white supremacists. Yes they do. Antifa might not, but others do, Antifa does not speak for everyone. Y'all are trying to shut down Dave Rubin and Maxime Bernier at Mohawk College and you think no one wants to hear them just because Antifa doesn't? Neither are White Supremacists, y'all just see White Supremacists under every rock, it's a term devoid of all meaning these days simply used to describe people the far left disagrees with. Antifa are terrible judges of who is and isn't engaging in hate speech, and hate speech is free speech, so even the few times you are right, that doesn't warrant shutting them down. No one made Antifa the arbiters of who is and isn't allowed to speak, and being arbiters of who is and isn't allowed to speak is an act of censorship, not free speech. Antifa's right to free speech does not supercede the right of free speech of those who disagree with Antifa. I don't care how much more popular you think your protest is than those who want to hear people speak, that doesn't justify your actions one bit. Antifa is despicable group, you being blind to reality doesn't change those facts. Y'all aren't fighting fascism, you are the fascists. Projecting your own faults on others is a helluva drug. Edited September 28, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacee Posted September 28, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: Yes they do. Antifa might not, but others do, Antifa does not speak for everyone. The people opposing white supremacists, anti-fascists opposed to fascism, represent most Canadians. White supremacists don't represent any voices that anyone wants to hear. No one goes to public rallies to listen to white supremacists. Saying it doesn't make it true, and you've provided no evidence yet. Quote Y'all are trying to shut down Dave Rubin and Maxime Bernier at Mohawk College and you think no one wants to hear them just because Antifa doesn't? Neither are White Supremacists... Bernier enables and supports white supremacists, for their votes, and who's to say he isn't? It would be interesting to see who does go inside to hear Maxime Bernier. At $50pp, it's an expensive gig, so the usual ragtag white supremacist will likely be hanging outside harassing Mohawk students of colour & LGBTQ+ people, yelling slurs and insults as usual. Manners and decency for living in civil society are not their forte. Quote Antifa are terrible judges of who is and isn't engaging in hate speech, and hate speech is free speech, 'Inciting and promoting hatred against identifiable groups of people' is a crime in Canada. https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-319.html I get your hatred for 'Antifa', because you just don't win when they're around: You can't get away with harassing and assaulting Muslims and LGBTQ+ people. You don't win ever, anyway, because you're racist bigots and nobody wants to hear you, everyone drowns you out and chases you away. There is no public tolerance for hate speech in public spaces. Your problem isn't Antifa: Your problem is that NOBODY wants to hear what white supremacists have to say. And white supremacists have no integrity either: You try to water down your bigotry for public consumption and don't even have the courage to publicly state what you really stand for ... because if you did, it would be a criminal act. Edited September 28, 2019 by jacee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 hours ago, jacee said: The people opposing white supremacists, anti-fascists opposed to fascism, represent most Canadians. Your assumption that the majority of Canada is onside with Antifa is delusional. Your assumption that fascism is limited to Tiki Torch Nazis is delusional. Your assumption that the pendulum cannot swing quickly is delusional. There is a central bank incited free money party, cheap debt, that is why the leftist lunatics are mostly ignored. Hard times will come again, then the worm will turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted September 28, 2019 Report Share Posted September 28, 2019 4 hours ago, jacee said: ... because if you did, it would be a criminal act. Hence why the Great Silent Majority. There's no need to say anything, because money talks and bullshit walks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Army Guy Posted October 14, 2019 Report Share Posted October 14, 2019 (edited) On 9/18/2019 at 10:36 PM, Sagacious said: I suppose it depends on what the group is advocating. So often "right wing" groups are seeking to infringe, restrict or prevent the equal rights of others. I don't hear of too many violent protests where leftists attack a peaceful meeting about reducing taxes for the wealthy. Another major problem is painting an entire group with one brush, "what is your definition of right wing" no mention of that young punk you refused a very elderly lady and her husband from attending a Max Bernier rally...that would not be considered infringing, restricting or preventing equal rights would it....na, intra net is full of examples of leftist Antifa going out of their way to disrupt right wing events or marches. or maybe mom hasn't given you permission to use u tube....assaulting older people because of their views... Perhaps you should of stuck with there are wing nuts on both sides of this conflict, does not mean there is not people who are willing to debate the issue with words. Jacee is a perfect example of that.... Edited October 14, 2019 by Army Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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