Canada resettled more refugees than anyone in the world last year

[Dougie93]

Bear in mind that Canada never fought the Nazis because they were genocidal,  when the Jews tried to flee to Canada, Liberal Canadian Prime Minister MacKenzie-King invoked them as being "illegitimate" migrants, remarking that "one Jew is too many", so in fact Canada didn't care about that, the reason Canada went to war,  as per usual, was for the racist Apartheid British Empire, when Hitler flipped to Mussolini's side and then both sat astride the route to Suez, India and the Far East beyond.

Why on earth did so many Canadian boys die in Italy when that was not the route to Berlin?  Answer; they died to keep China British, same as it ever was.

They called them the D-Day Dodgers, but really they were still the Shock Troops of the Empire as much as their father's  had been at the Somme.

Truth be told, they never dodged anything, Churchill's Soft Underbelly was worse than D-Day, Overlord was wrapped up rather quickly, in comparison  the march up the Apennines was a brutal slog, the Italian Campaign was a slaughterhouse, the only purpose being to keep  British boot heels on Indian necks in the Raj.

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[Dougie93]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

It doesn’t take much traveling to realize how great Canada is.  

Most places are great for me, I'm a North German Protestant, we conquered the world, and I'm reasonably wealthy, so everybody treats me well, it's good to be the king.

 

[Zeitgeist]

3 hours ago, Dougie93 said:

Adolf Hitler invoked the conquest of the North American Indians as his model for ethnically cleansing the East, and in fact the Nazis used the same methods as John A. MacDonald, which was to encircle the target peoples and kill them by exposure and starvation.

Wrong.  The Crown has longstanding treaties with the Indigenous.  The are protected. 

[Yzermandius19]

3 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

Wrong.  The Crown has longstanding treaties with the Indigenous.  The are protected. 

Wrong. Those treaties didn't protect them from the stuff Dougie is talking about, you may wish they did, but your wishful thinking does not reflect what the historical record actually indicates. Hitler used the North American model in Eastern Europe, whether you believe it or not, the dude said it in his own words and then followed through on it.

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[Zeitgeist]

10 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Wrong. Those treaties didn't protect them from the stuff Dougie is talking about, you may wish they did, but your wishful thinking does not reflect what the historical record actually indicates. Hitler used the North American model in Eastern Europe, whether you believe it or not, the dude said it in his own words and then followed through on it.

You guys are unreal.  Are you equating places like Auschwitz, which had four sets of ovens and murdered over two million Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals, with Indian reserves where Indigenous have complete control and title, don’t pay income taxes, and don’t pay land taxes?   That’s a dumb, false, and irresponsible comparison.  

[Dougie93]

20 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You guys are unreal.  Are you equating places like Auschwitz, which had four sets of ovens and murdered over two million Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals, with Indian reserves where Indigenous have complete control and title, don’t pay income taxes, and don’t pay land taxes?   That’s a dumb, false, and irresponsible comparison.  

Extermination camps is not the only method the Nazis used, again, they also encircled large numbers of Soviets and killed them simply by exposure and starvation,  millions of Soviets were killed in this manner.  

The Canadian government used the same methods to build the railroad, stave them out was the policy of Canada.

Why do you think the Lefties want all the statues of Sir John A torn down?

Mind you, the Concentration Camp was an invention of the British in the Boer War and Canada was an active participant in that as well.

Edited July 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[jacee]

21 hours ago, Zeitgeist said:

You guys are unreal.  Are you equating places like Auschwitz, which had four sets of ovens and murdered over two million Jews, Gypsies, and homosexuals, with Indian reserves where Indigenous have complete control and title, don’t pay income taxes, and don’t pay land taxes?   That’s a dumb, false, and irresponsible comparison.  

"Taxes"? WTF? lol 

Your obsession is that of white supremacists who fail to respect the foundations and laws of Canada: "dumb, false, and irresponsible" ... and irrelevant. Lol 

dougie93 is right.

Hitler was able to take genocide to the extreme end, blatantly killing undesirable 'non-Aryans' enmasse, the worst 20th century genocide perhaps, but genocide exists before that extremist end.

Canada's treaty-by-starvation on the Prairies, sterilization of Indigenous women including targeting of Traditional Council members and families, forcibly removing children and and indoctrinating them in the dominant culture under constant threat and reality of bodily harm, death or 'disappearance', forcibly suppressing and replacing Tradititional Indigenous governance with Band Councils in Canada's employ ... Canada's long, slow genocide that hoped to evade international scrutiny. 

That evasion isn't entirely possible now. Recently faced with scrutiny from the Organization of American States (North, Central & South America), following the MMIW report,  Trudeau did the only thing he could do to keep that international scrutiny at bay: publicly 'accepted that it was genocide'. 

Looking back for connection to topic of refugees ... 

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[Zeitgeist]

33 minutes ago, jacee said:

"Taxes"? WTF? lol 

Your obsession is that of white supremacists who fail to respect the foundations and laws of Canada: "dumb, false, and irresponsible" ... and irrelevant. Lol 

dougie93 is right.

Hitler was able to take genocide to the extreme end, blatantly killing undesirable 'non-Aryans' enmasse, the worst 20th century genocide perhaps, but genocide exists before that extremist end.

Canada's treaty-by-starvation on the Prairies, sterilization of Indigenous women including targeting of Traditional Council members and families, forcibly removing children and and indoctrinating them in the dominant culture under constant threat and reality of bodily harm, death or 'disappearance', forcibly suppressing and replacing Tradititional Indigenous governance with Band Councils in Canada's employ ... Canada's long, slow genocide that hoped to evade international scrutiny. 

That evasion isn't entirely possible now. Recently faced with scrutiny from the Organization of American States (North, Central & South America), following the MMIW report,  Trudeau did the only thing he could do to keep that international scrutiny at bay: publicly 'accepted that it was genocide'. 

Looking back for connection to topic of refugees ... 

That’s certainly the rhetoric for reparations, but you exaggerate the connection and case for genocide for political gain.  Injustices occurred for certain and people suffered, but Hitler, really?  Get real.  

[Yzermandius19]

6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

That’s certainly the rhetoric for reparations, but you exaggerate the connection and case for genocide for political gain.  Injustices occurred for certain and people suffered, but Hitler, really?  Get real.  

Hitler himself said his plan was inspired by how North America handled the indigenous, then he actually did it, proving he wasn't bluffing. You being oblivious to those facts doesn't mean it isn't true.

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[Dougie93]

3 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

Hitler himself said his plan was inspired by how North America handled the indigenous, then he actually did it, proving he wasn't bluffing. You being oblivious to those facts doesn't mean it isn't true.

Canada wasn't bluffing neither, I mean, Sitting Bull and his folk fled to Canada after Little Bighorn, but what they found out was that the Canadians were starving the Indians in Canada intentionally to make room for the railroad, so Sitting Bull went back and surrendered to the Americans rather than starve.

[Dougie93]

I mean, Hitler's great crime was not that he mass liquidated people, the crime was that he mass liquidated white people.

The Belgians liquidated 10 million in the Congo, and nobody batted an eyelash, and Canada in fact sent 600,000 troops downrange to save this slave empire in 1915.

All Hitler did was bring the mass liquidations which had previously been reserved for non whites overseas,  home to Europe.

It's like in Rwanda when you see "long sleeve - short sleeve", either they cut your hand off, or they cut your whole arm off, the Africans didn't invent that, that was the Belgians, that was one of the punishments the Belgians imposed on slaves who tried to escape, and this is what Canada fought the First Word War to defend and uphold.

You know why the Belgian Malinois makes such a good police dog?  Because the Belgians bred them to hunt down slaves who escaped, if Hitler is the ultimate evil, the House of Saxe-Coburg & Gotha, which is the Crown of Canada, is right in the dock with him.

Why were so many Canadians sacrificed in Flanders?  Because in fact, Canada and Belgium are the same country for all intents and purposes, Prince Albert to Elizabeth Windsor, Canada is Saxe-Coburg & Gotha, by definition, by the British North America Act.

Want to throw the BNA Act out and have a People's Republic instead?  Go ahead and try, but what you will find, is that there is no there there.

Disloyal Canadians will find out how central the monarchy is to Confederation when they try to get rid of it and Canada simply dissolves as a result.

Go right ahead, make my day, vive le Quebec libre, to hell with racist genocidal Canadian Confederation upon our necks.

Edited July 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[jacee]

On 7/6/2019 at 6:13 PM, Rue said:

I will say it again, legit refugees and immigrants are not the issue.  Bad laws that encourage people to break them and push ahead of legit imms and refugees are.  

Refugees are those who've already been processed and given Refugee status in Canada. 

Asylum-seekers arrive at our borders, seaports, etc. (or try to) and then apply for Refugee status. For example, the Komagata Maru in 1914 carrying dissident  refugees from British-imperialist rule of India, the St. Louis, turned away by Canada in 1939, carrying 900+ Jewish refugees from fascism in Europe, the Vietnamese/Cambodian 'boat people' in the 1980's, MV Sun Sea in 2010 carrying Tamil refugees from Sri Lanka, etc. 

Anybody can apply for asylum, not all will be given Refugee status in Canada. 

 

 

[Dougie93]

16 minutes ago, jacee said:

Anybody can apply for asylum, not all will be given Refugee status in Canada. 

 

 

The Liberals actually just quietly changed that in an omnibus bill, they have now asserted the authority to deport refugees  without granting them a hearing.

[jacee]

1 hour ago, Zeitgeist said:

That’s certainly the rhetoric for reparations, but you exaggerate the connection and case for genocide for political gain.  Injustices occurred for certain and people suffered, but Hitler, really?  Get real.  

"Rhetoric for reparations" ... lol ... you really do use all of the white supremacist rhetoric. 

I didn't exaggerate anything. I just described it.

I have nothing to gain politically. 

The extreme and blatant mass murders of Jewish people by Hitler may have inspired the UN Convention on Genocide, but 'death camps' don't define genocide. 

But I'm still not sure how your obsession with Indigenous people has anything to do with the topic of refugees: We were the refugees, not them. Lol 

[Zeitgeist]

10 minutes ago, jacee said:

"Rhetoric for reparations" ... lol ... you really do use all of the white supremacist rhetoric. 

I didn't exaggerate anything. I just described it.

I have nothing to gain politically. 

The extreme and blatant mass murders of Jewish people by Hitler may have inspired the UN Convention on Genocide, but 'death camps' don't define genocide. 

But I'm still not sure how your obsession with Indigenous people has anything to do with the topic of refugees: We were the refugees, not them. Lol 

What white supremacist nonsense are you referencing?  I have no interest in hate.  

[Dougie93]

15 minutes ago, jacee said:

The extreme and blatant mass murders of Jewish people by Hitler may have inspired the UN Convention on Genocide, but 'death camps' don't define genocide.

Extreme is a comparative judgement, it didn't seem extreme to the Germans, because everybody was doing it, the Russians were doing it, the British were doing it, the Americans were doing it, as I say, even tiny Belgium mass murdered as many people as the Nazis, it's not like King Leopold was ever put in the dock, so Hitler didn't see it as anything other than par for the course, all Germany ever asserted was to have its Place in the Sun, to do as all the other Empires were doing all the time.

Edited July 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[Dougie93]

The  French in Indochina were particularly nasty, they did things even the Nazis would have balked at, like any slaves who caused any trouble in Indochina had their heads chopped off and then publicly displayed, even the SS would have found that to be unseemly, same with the Belgians in the Congo, chopping people's arms off would also have been too gruesome for the Nazis.

That's why the had the extermination camps, gassing was quick and clean, they couldn't get the SS to shoot people anymore because the SS troops were getting PTSD from it.

That's also why they resorted to just killing Soviet troops by encirclement exposure and starvation, the Nazis were actually trying to sanitize the mass murder and keep their troops at arms length from it on order to stave off morale problems.

The Nazis were not even the most vicious on the battlefield, for example when the SS saw what the Croatian Ustashi did to people the SS said "my God, these people are f**king savages"

Edited July 8, 2019 by Dougie93

[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

Stay on topic lest I do so on your behalf.